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Monday, March 22nd, 2010, 06:28 UTC
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[14:36:16] iamlindoro: Hmmm
[14:36:28] iamlindoro: 435: iamlindoro #mythtv-theming Cannot change nickname while banned on channel
[14:36:56] iamlindoro: Was able to leave, change nick, and rejoin...
[14:47:57] stuartm: odd
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[14:49:11] gbee: might be worth dropping a line to freenode support, probably a bug in their services app
[14:54:12] iamlindoro: Yeah, I'll ping them
[14:54:13] iamlindoro: thanks
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[20:23:40] iamlindoro: mrand: Any chance you guys can make clear on http://www.mythbuntu.org/10.04/beta1 that MythNetvision is a beta plugin, and will remain so (with no guarantees about operation) through at least .24?
[20:24:01] mrand: absolutely.
[20:24:22] iamlindoro: I'm just this side of asking that there be no bug reports against it, since I probably know about most of its many issues, but the more I can minimize the heartache, the better :)
[20:24:46] iamlindoro: And in fairness, me aleady knowing about the bugs doesn't make them not bugs, heh :)
[20:25:10] iamlindoro: Just hoping people will treat it as a beta until certain large parts can be rewritten/finished for .24
[20:25:22] mrand: *laugh* Yeah, I found a few more things this weekend, but didn't want to flood you all with too many usability bugs at once ;-)
[20:25:43] mrand: (not with MNV, but elsewhere)
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[20:56:23] mrand: iamlindoro: ok, caches have been refreshed. Let me know if you'd any adjustments to the wording. I won't mind.
[20:57:10] iamlindoro: mrand: Heh, thanks, I didn't mean that they actually shouldn't file bug reports, merely that I almost wanted to ask that they not be
[20:57:12] iamlindoro: but a bug is a bug
[20:57:33] mrand: iamlindoro: if you know about them, I'd prefer to not have to spend the time to forward them... we're all overloaded as it is, right?
[20:58:13] iamlindoro: There might be those that I don't know about, though-- I should have been more clear-- even those reports that I know about are still legit bugs
[20:59:07] iamlindoro: I think calling it a beta and warning people to expect it to be limited is enough to calm some of the more senseless reports, and I'll close anything that is not legit-- but bug reports are fine-- sorry if I implied otherwise
[20:59:30] mrand: iamlindoro: no, you didn't imply otherwise... I just took it the next logical step ;-)
[20:59:38] mrand: am I'm want to do.
[21:00:18] iamlindoro: Heh-- MNV bugs just won't get my customary quick response, as many of the pressing issues are large tasks rather than incidental bugs
[21:01:00] iamlindoro: like "downloading files is totally broken/wrong".. it's a legit complaint (and at the very least it's unintuitive) but the fix requires some real rework/a backend downloader
[21:03:04] natanojl: iamlindoro: I have found some mem leaks in MNV, is that something you are aware of? I've been working to fix them, but it's not ready yet
[21:03:30] mrand: ooooo ... now that would be nice to get fixed sooner than later ;-)
[21:03:42] iamlindoro: I am likely aware of some of them
[21:04:21] natanojl: Ok
[21:05:42] iamlindoro: but feel free to submit a patch whenever, more eyes is always fine
[21:08:55] iamlindoro: s/fine/appreciated/
[21:09:18] natanojl: :) Will do when I am happy with it. I am also trying to complete a swedish translation of MNV. Still got a few phrases to translate.
[21:09:31] gbee: iamlindoro: fwiw cppcheck run with it's strict mode finds the following – http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1849652
[21:09:58] iamlindoro: gbee: Thanks, will check them out
[21:10:13] gbee: that mode does tend to include false positives, especially with objects which are deleted elsewhere
[21:10:27] gbee: e.g. mythui widgets/screens
[21:11:17] iamlindoro: At least a few of those are alsmot certainly legit-- MNV went through several incarnations before being committed and I'm sure I've left some cruft
[21:11:25] iamlindoro: not to mention just out and out mistakes on my part
[21:13:37] gbee: with all tests enabled – http://mythtv.pastebin.ca/1849659
[21:14:39] iamlindoro: Well that's a little aggressive, heh
[21:14:49] iamlindoro: some of the stuff is for planned future functionality
[21:14:58] iamlindoro: or at least "maybe if I get to doing this it would be neat"
[21:16:58] gbee: aye, it doesn't run with all those enabled by default since few of the results are what you'd call serious bugs, but I thought you might be interested
[21:18:11] iamlindoro: yeah, have never used cppcheck, but the first results are likely helpful
[21:19:23] gbee: MNV is pretty clean compared to most of the code, I've made changes on the basis of the 'style' tests in the past, but only for code I'm directly responsible for, don't want to step on someone's toes because they happen to come from a C background and prefer that style of casting etc
[21:19:54] iamlindoro: gbee: Please don't hesitate, there's little in my work that isn't done on a whim/based on my own limitations :)
[21:20:06] natanojl: same here, mostly used to lint + purify and some Coverity
[21:22:08] gbee: I'd rate cppcheck as being somewhere between lint and coverity in functionality, although it's been a long time since I played with lint
[21:23:07] gbee: and I've never used Coverity first hand, I've only seen the stuff that Erik reported after running it against MythTV
[21:31:13] natanojl: there was this lengthy article about Coverity recently, quite interesting, http://cacm.acm.org/magazines/2010/2/69354-a- . . . ter/fulltext
[21:35:17] natanojl: oh, and I meant flexelint. I guess it's not quite the same as lint
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