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Thursday, April 23rd, 2020, 00:03 UTC
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[01:39:17] lanuser: Hi – I had no idea there were so many different versions of mariadb available. Is there a preferred version that works best with MythTV?
[01:49:20] Kwisher[m]: i'm only aware of one???
[01:49:40] Kwisher[m]: what distro?
[01:50:44] lanuser: Gentoo, I have a bunch to pick from --> https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/dev-db/mariadb
[01:50:58] lanuser: versions highlighted in green are considered "stable"
[01:52:20] Kwisher[m]: use the newest one, of course
[01:53:48] lanuser: makes sense, thanks
[01:54:22] Kwisher[m]: ubuntu 18.04 has v.10.1
[01:54:37] Kwisher[m]: you can also use mysql
[01:56:19] lanuser: there was a switch away from mysql to mariadb a while ago due to some licensing changes as I understand it
[01:59:21] Kwisher[m]: i think you are incorrect
[02:00:12] Kwisher[m]: but either will work
[02:01:38] mack-: use the most recent one. If it breaks, use the next oldest. Repeat. The ansible scripts, when they choose to include a mariadb prerequisite say anything over 10 is fine. Early versions of 10 are pretty old, so I'd choose something a little higher
[02:03:49] lanuser: Any suggestions for troubleshooting this error? Or should I just ignore it, stuff seems to be working fine, I just saw this is the logs:
[02:03:50] mack-: the objections that caused several projects/linux distributions to move to MariaDB were MySQL's acquisition by Oracle.
[02:03:53] lanuser: Warning Aborted connection to db unconnected user unauthenticated host This connection closed normally without authentication
[02:04:43] lanuser: That's a bit truncated, but it's essentially the whole error
[02:06:39] mack-: lanuser: running docker?
[02:07:36] lanuser: mack-: no
[02:11:29] mack-: I was expecting it do be a docker container improperly configured to not fully allow connections in
[02:14:36] lanuser: eww, wait, sorry, let me retract this question, I see now it's not related to mythtv :/
[02:15:13] Kwisher[m]: mythtv has it's own logs
[02:16:21] lanuser: I'm set it to use syslog
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[13:38:09] paul-h: Kwisher[m]: if lanuser comes back tell him to stay clear of MariaDB > 10.3 for the moment. 10.4 and newer versions have a bug that effects MythTV – https://jira.mariadb.org/browse/MDEV-20261
[13:40:54] stuarta: paul-h: that the one where it crashes?
[13:49:36] paul-h: yes it crashes the MariaDB server!
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[14:13:24] paul-h: Looks like the pending Ubuntu LTS release is sticking with 10.3.22 which is a sensible decision
[14:16:56] stuarta: yep
[14:17:03] stuarta: i thought it had been released
[14:17:37] stuarta: it no longer identifies itself as "development release" when you do lsb_release -a
[14:29:03] paul-h: It must be close if it hasn't already
[14:31:07] paul-h: There is nothing on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases yet
[14:34:48] stuarta: probably tonight our time, or tomorrow
[16:05:43] stuarta: paul-h: it's officially today https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FocalFossa/ReleaseSchedule
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[17:02:33] paul-h: stuarta: yes I'm hearing reports that Kubuntu 20.04 has been released as well
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[17:05:12] paul-h: I think in the past existing users don't get to update until after the first point release so 20.04.1 is released which is scheduled for July unless they force the update
[17:07:08] paul-h: As we know MythTV users are very slow to update anyway so I don't expect the smolt numbers to change anytime soon. Some are still on 16.04!
[17:09:42] paul-h: More that 27% of Ubuntu MythTV users still use 16.04 that's unbelievable :(
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[17:24:10] mkbloke: My laptop is still on 16.04... it's still under LTS though, so I don't feel it's necessary to bother with an upgrade just yet! It really depends, I guess, on whether folks need newer version of stuff as to whether they can be bothered. I've been thinking about upgrading to 18.04, just not got around to it yet and it's not a pressing issue for me.
[17:24:37] Kwisher[m]: i'm sticking with 18.04 & Myth .30 until there is an easier path for Schedules Direct :(
[17:28:00] GWG: My biggest problem was figuring out where the config directory needed to be
[17:28:06] GWG: I took the plunge
[17:32:50] paul-h: It's always in the users home directory unless overridden by using the MYTHCONFDIR‎ environment variable
[17:34:14] paul-h: The problems arise when you run the backend under user mythtv and run the frontend or other myth utils under another user
[17:36:44] paul-h: if you use the default home directory method you have to either copy the .mythtv directory from one users home directory to the other one or symlink them and make sure the permissions are good so both users can read and write to the config directory
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[21:24:38] stuarta: paul-h: i can see now that you've fixed the branch in the PPA builds, things are starting to slowly correct. it'll take a month or so to even out
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