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| [19:53:03] | psymin: | Hello SirScott |
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| [19:53:16] | SirScott: | psymin: hey! |
| [19:53:57] | psymin: | Here is a great forum post regarding mythtv backend with rpi4 on raspbian buster https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?t=3232 |
| [19:53:59] | SirScott: | for starters, my assumption is that with the backend on a rpi3b+ is feasible |
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| [19:57:14] | SirScott: | psymin: thanks, guess i should go find an SD card and throw it in my pi! |
| [19:57:16] | psymin: | sounds like there are some folks running a backend on an rpi 3 |
| [19:57:19] | psymin: | https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?t=1966 |
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| [19:58:58] | psymin: | If you're wanting to capture terrestrial OTA broadcasts you'll want a USB DVB-T device |
| [19:59:26] | SirScott: | that's in the mail :) |
| [19:59:33] | psymin: | Nice :) |
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| [20:00:32] | psymin: | The script by user "MikeB2013" in that forum post for raspbian buster is quite useful. |
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| [20:03:38] | psymin: | Do you have a device that you'll use as a frontend? |
| [20:04:30] | SirScott: | psymin: yes, i have a couple of odroid N2s running core elec |
| [20:04:55] | SirScott: | ok, just found an sd card, so downloading raspbian and getting that going |
| [20:07:44] | SirScott: | psymin: step #6 here: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi, is it required to purchase the license key? |
| [20:07:44] | ** MythLogBot https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/6 ** | |
| [20:08:12] | SirScott: | funny bot. |
| [20:08:53] | SirScott: | oh just realized that was in a frontend section. |
| [20:11:05] | SirScott: | psymin: that script is pretty nice! i do have a mysql / mariadb server running in the network, would it be better to just have it use that existing server? |
| [20:13:09] | psymin: | if your network is reliable it might be best to use an offsite server :) |
| [20:13:15] | psymin: | err a non-local one |
| [20:25:31] | SirScott: | psymin: alright, chugging through the mythtv-light install, then i'll run that script |
| [20:26:43] | psymin: | for me, running mythtv-setup was quite frustrating due to CEC :) It would turn off my TV upon exit. |
| [20:26:46] | psymin: | mythtv-setup -O libCECEnabled=0 |
| [20:27:17] | SirScott: | that is annoying! :) |
| [20:27:27] | psymin: | Those flags will prevent that. |
| [20:27:49] | SirScott: | mine's not connected to a tv, so that'll help too! |
| [20:30:19] | psymin: | If you're hoping to tune into IPTV, my impression is that tvheadend might be better on that front. I haven't tried it though. Only on Mythtv. |
| [20:30:36] | SirScott: | once the mythtv-backend is installed, how do i go about configuring it to use my USB tuner and setting the channels? |
| [20:30:49] | SirScott: | no plans for IPTV, just live OTA |
| [20:31:11] | psymin: | once it is installed, then you run mythtv-setup |
| [20:31:32] | SirScott: | is that a GUI app or CLI? |
| [20:31:39] | psymin: | Unfortunately, it is a gui app. |
| [20:31:46] | SirScott: | oh dang. |
| [20:31:53] | psymin: | I wish there were cli tools. If there are I'd love to know about them :) |
| [20:32:06] | psymin: | There is a web interface, and a mythweb interface. |
| [20:32:57] | psymin: | there are some config files you can edit in ~/.mythtv and in /etc/mythtv |
| [20:33:22] | psymin: | Might be easiest to use on a pi if you install the vnc service. |
| [20:34:07] | SirScott: | yep, going to have to cross that bridge when i get there. only 70% done installing mythtv-light. |
| [20:34:22] | simonpatapon: | you can ssh -X from a unix machine to get mythtv-setup relayed to your current Xorg |
| [20:34:54] | SirScott: | simonpatapon: i installed buster-lite, which i wouldn't think has an xserver? |
| [20:35:20] | SirScott: | i mean, granted i could install one... just sort of defeats the purpose of a headless backend machine. |
| [20:36:29] | simonpatapon: | i think you wont have choice to apt install xorg |
| [20:36:32] | simonpatapon: | or edit by hand |
| [20:36:45] | simonpatapon: | but xorg only with no DE is still light |
| [20:37:08] | psymin: | I'm not sure if X is required to be running other than for setup. |
| [20:39:10] | psymin: | It is definitely worth installing X though, at least for setup. |
| [20:39:40] | simonpatapon: | you could still call it headless |
| [20:42:48] | psymin: | If someone made a cli or curses version of mythtv-setup I'd use it :) and tip. |
| [20:46:49] | mack-: | I think the general rumblings was for a webfrontend setup replacement. Very back burner, since stuff works. |
| [20:48:56] | mack-: | btw, I still haven't found anyone who can tell me how well a Pi can handle concurrent recordings and LiveTV sessions. And I wouldn't expect any sort of transcode jobs to be satisfactory, unless I wanted to start a fire with a Pi4 :-) |
| [20:49:18] | mack-: | (just joking about that, of course) |
| [20:49:37] | psymin: | It seems to work fine with one livetv stream :) |
| [20:50:30] | psymin: | I've got another 950Q USB to connect so I'll do that "eventually". After this other project I guess. |
| [20:50:33] | mack-: | yeah, I think a lot of the people putting backends for kodi on Pis are just doing one stream. |
| [20:50:49] | SirScott: | that's me :) |
| [20:51:51] | psymin: | I had a bit of trouble at first getting the backend and kodi-pvr-mythtv to talk nicely to each other for livetv. |
| [20:53:43] | mack-: | pvr.mythtv was almost plug and play for me, but I had mythtv configured and working with frontends before a kodi install. |
| [20:54:00] | ** psymin nods. ** | |
| [20:54:11] | psymin: | I had backend misconfigured. Localhost set in too many places. |
| [20:56:57] | SirScott: | maybe i should have run mythtv-setup before kicking off this backend install script... |
| [20:57:38] | psymin: | the script wants you to have set up mythtv-lite (light?) |
| [20:57:49] | psymin: | https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythTV_Light |
| [20:57:54] | SirScott: | it just looks for mythtv-light to have been installed |
| [20:58:04] | psymin: | okayh |
| [21:03:28] | SirScott: | 'Finished setting up for mythtv-backend – Please reboot' – progress! |
| [21:03:56] | SirScott: | maybe i won't need to run mythtv-setup until i get my USB tuner |
| [21:04:42] | psymin: | It won't have any content to serve w/o the tuner :) |
| [21:06:47] | SirScott: | if i run setup now and don't have the tuner, can I re-run it again later when I do? |
| [21:07:12] | simonpatapon: | but youd be glad to be able to run it when you<ll get it |
| [21:07:30] | psymin: | yep |
| [21:07:47] | simonpatapon: | configure sshd_config to allo Xforward, install xorg and test it |
| [21:08:13] | SirScott: | ah thanks, had forgotten about the sshd_config |
| [21:08:57] | SirScott: | looks like it's set to yes by default in raspbian |
| [21:09:02] | simonpatapon: | i juste trough the same problems while i re-installed in a VM |
| [21:09:16] | simonpatapon: | sorry for my poor english |
| [21:11:16] | SirScott: | no worries, your english is great, and i appreciate everyone's help! |
| [21:11:52] | simonpatapon: | :D |
| [21:13:43] | SirScott: | hooray, i have the mythtv-setup gui |
| [21:16:17] | psymin: | nice :) |
| [21:17:51] | psymin: | once you get the usb device, you'll probably want to have the schedule situation addressed |
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| [21:21:35] | SirScott: | 'schedule situation', that sounds ominous |
| [21:21:35] | psymin: | https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Schedules_Direct |
| [21:21:35] | psymin: | you can grab the schedule over the air, or you can get better schedules via a paid service |
| [21:21:35] | SirScott: | systemctl status mythtv-backend --> Active: active (running) |
| [21:21:35] | psymin: | https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XMLTV_ID |
| [21:21:35] | psymin: | ncie :) |
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| [21:24:35] | SirScott: | it looks like the script installed mythweb and is serving it with apache2 |
| [21:24:52] | SirScott: | however if I hit http://my.ip:80, it just pulls up the apache2 default site |
| [21:25:23] | psymin: | try http://blah/mythweb |
| [21:25:36] | SirScott: | there it is :) |
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| [21:26:03] | psymin: | and http://blah:6544 |
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| [21:26:39] | SirScott: | thanks! |
| [21:26:43] | psymin: | np |
| [21:27:02] | psymin: | if you set up an iptv stream you could tinker with it before you get the USB device :) |
| [21:27:24] | SirScott: | got suggestions for one to try? |
| [21:27:28] | psymin: | no :( |
| [21:31:12] | SirScott: | well, with everything installed and simply idling, the pi is not on fire, so that's good. |
| [21:31:55] | psymin: | I wonder what would be a good system resource monitor/log tool for an rpi3 in this case. |
| [21:33:13] | psymin: | I'm hoping there is a mpegts stream of something like QVC that is free and legal to use as an example. |
| [21:33:35] | psymin: | maybe cspan? |
| [21:34:06] | SirScott: | or pbs |
| [21:35:32] | SirScott: | i am a current youtube tv subscriber...could i add that in perhaps? |
| [21:36:26] | psymin: | I think it has to be mpeg-ts |
| [21:36:31] | psymin: | not sure what other requirements |
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| [21:39:58] | SirScott: | https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/FreeBox#Complex_c . . . reebox_modem maybe this? |
| [21:41:16] | psymin: | Freeiptv_m3u.py looks handy |
| [21:42:44] | psymin: | ahh, that could be a handy test, yes |
| [21:50:10] | SirScott: | psymin, simonpatapon — thanks again for all of the help. i gotta take off, but should be getting the tuner in a couple of days, so may be back if I can't figure that out! |
| [21:50:30] | psymin: | neat, I hope to hear back when you get the device :) |
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| [22:04:41] | psymin: | I forgot that PIP was a thing |
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