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| [01:39:14] | ullbeking: | good evening all |
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| [04:40:15] | ullbeking: | i am designing a media server and i would like to test if mythtv would be a good choice. what's a good way to test it short of installing it on a media server? in a local vm? |
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| [06:46:57] | mack-: | ullbeking: mythtv's primary design is not as a media server. Are you also wanting to install a PVR? |
| [06:48:31] | mack-: | mythtv will run in a vm. Installing both backend and frontend will allow you to test the functionality. |
| [06:48:43] | ullbeking: | mack-: i am looking for a tool that will let me play media that is arranged on a nas. because the nas is dedicated to ripped dvds, ripped cds, etc, it's a media server. i'm considering also implementing transcoding/encoding on the server, but not sure about that |
| [06:48:59] | ullbeking: | for mythtv, i'm just looking for something that will let me watch the stuff on the media server |
| [06:50:15] | ullbeking: | i'm looking at kodi, mythtv, jellyfin, etc |
| [06:50:42] | ullbeking: | mack-: so i'm still in exploratory phases. the media will be stored in xiph.org formats on the media server |
| [06:51:22] | mack-: | kodi is probably the premier media player. Plex and emby are also popular and feature on-the-fly transcoding, if I recall correctly. |
| [06:51:41] | ullbeking: | mack-: i'm very keen on libre/open source solutions |
| [06:52:06] | ullbeking: | what would mythtv be used for, then? |
| [06:52:23] | mack-: | the Video Library feature of mythtv can certainly be used for a simple media player. |
| [06:52:47] | ullbeking: | does it work well as a music player? |
| [06:53:58] | mack-: | I haven't tested the music player in mythtv in many years. I know some improvements were made in the music player, but have no first hand experience |
| [06:55:29] | ullbeking: | what is mythtv really intended for, compared to the other options you mentioned? what does it do that when it really shines? |
| [06:55:39] | ullbeking: | s/that// |
| [06:57:03] | mack-: | I personally use mythtv as a pvr (think TiVo or the dvr cable/satellite companies provide). Mythbackend to schedule and record over-the-air TV broadcasts, then user-defined bash scripts to cut the commercials and transcode and move to my NAS. |
| [06:57:39] | ullbeking: | mack-: that's pretty different to what i'm doing |
| [06:58:03] | ullbeking: | i'll be ripping lots of dvd's of shows my daughter likes. we want to get her off youtube. |
| [06:58:12] | ullbeking: | (she's two) |
| [06:59:03] | mack-: | that's where mythtv shines – in the PVR part. From there, it sounds like I'm doing what you are talking about. TV Shows that I wish to keep, along with all my ripped DVD/BDs/music, go on the NAS. Then I use kodi to play that media. |
| [06:59:59] | ullbeking: | oh wow |
| [07:00:00] | mack-: | kodi also happens to have a mythtv addon that I use for the TV features. |
| [07:00:55] | ullbeking: | so kodi is a more appropriate front end for my use case? |
| [07:02:54] | mack-: | I know people who do use mythtv's video library feature and love it for watching their media, but I personally don't feel like it's mythtv's strong suit. I personally feel that kodi is better at presenting your media files. |
| [07:04:29] | mack-: | kodi can also run very smoothly on less powerful hardware compared to myth. I run kodi on an old Raspberry Pi 2. MythTV frontend will run on a Pi 2, but it's not pleasurable. |
| [07:05:10] | ullbeking: | ok, good to know |
| [07:06:20] | ullbeking: | thank you mack- |
| [07:06:46] | mack-: | if you're looking for something to transcode media on the fly, however, plain kodi won't do that.. it's simply a player. |
| [07:07:06] | ullbeking: | transcoding on the fly would be useful |
| [07:07:18] | ullbeking: | so she can watch stuff on a tablet or phone |
| [07:07:58] | ullbeking: | the server is up to it, i just need to know what the workflow/dataflow looks like |
| [07:09:08] | mack-: | it's theoretcially possible to make mythtv do that transcoding, but I'm not sure if it will do on-the-fly. It's been a long time since I looked at it. The last time I had a use case for it, I used mediatomb to provide the media as DL |
| [07:09:34] | mack-: | as DLNA/UPnP streams to my PS3 and networked TV. |
| [07:09:51] | mack-: | mediatomb is long dead |
| [07:10:08] | mack-: | I think plex killed it |
| [07:10:26] | ullbeking: | i don't want to use plex |
| [07:13:59] | mack-: | do you have a physical NAS like synology or something? Some of those actually have a media server capability built in.. can do transcoding and such like I used to do for mediatomb |
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| [07:15:27] | ullbeking: | i'm using my own nas, running freenas |
| [07:16:17] | ullbeking: | i put it in a tower chassis that is very nice so it does't look awful in the living room |
| [07:17:02] | ullbeking: | that's for the media server |
| [07:17:25] | ullbeking: | (i have another nas for other things, another file server for backups and archives, etc etc) |
| [07:19:00] | mack-: | something that might interest you: https://alternativeto.net/software/plex/ |
| [07:19:17] | ullbeking: | thank you mack- |
| [07:19:51] | mack-: | can toggle the license to Open Source (or append ?license=opensource to the URL) |
| [07:20:29] | ullbeking: | jellyfin looks good |
| [07:21:34] | mack-: | fork of emby pre closed source sounds promising |
| [07:22:16] | ullbeking: | i'm looking to see if jellyfin does transcoding |
| [07:22:43] | ullbeking: | did i mention that i'll be using mainly xiph.org formats? |
| [07:23:09] | ullbeking: | and this media server will be an archive too |
| [07:24:56] | mack-: | *nod* |
| [07:25:20] | ullbeking: | this looks great |
| [07:25:53] | mack-: | jellyfin does do transcoding via ffmpeg, it seems |
| [07:26:17] | mack-: | Looks like work is progressing to improve it: https://github.com/jellyfin/jellyfin/issues/209 |
| [07:29:22] | ullbeking: | that is awesome! thanks for the link mack- ! i'm going to jump in and look around, i might even work on this. |
| [07:30:22] | mack-: | sounds like it's going to be a lot of fun for you. I remember the days when I was in your shoes. |
| [07:30:46] | ullbeking: | :D |
| [07:30:58] | ullbeking: | you got me really excited! |
| [07:31:07] | ullbeking: | i'm writing a comment on that issue now |
| [07:31:08] | mack-: | the process of improving your setup never stops, though |
| [07:33:01] | ullbeking: | sweet! |
| [07:33:09] | ullbeking: | i'm in |
| [07:33:49] | ullbeking: | thanks again mack- |
| [07:34:51] | mack-: | np at all. |
| [07:35:29] | mack-: | when you're ready to add TV to the mix, mythtv will be waiting for you |
| [07:37:40] | ullbeking: | yay! |
| [07:37:42] | ullbeking: | :D |
| [07:57:36] | ullbeking: | mack-: i joined riot and have joined the jellyfin channel, i have a feeling this is where i'm supposed to be |
| [07:57:40] | ullbeking: | so thanks again |
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| [12:34:59] | afc_: | hi all...after losing my database last week and I reinstalling Myth – is the mythbuntu 30 ppa safe to install? It says that it is still experimental – certainly the channel list processing seems to be a bit odd – but I though that Myth 30 had been released? |
| [12:35:42] | afc_: | Forgive my typos – using a tablet and been up all night configuring Myth! |
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| [12:46:16] | SteveGoodey: | afc_: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Main_Page shows 30 as current stable release. |
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| [12:49:44] | afc_: | Hi Steve – yes, I saw that but the Mythbuntu PPA warns "Here be Dragons" etc. I have never compiled anything from source but I may try using the downloadable MythTV 30 source files to avoid, well, dragons... |
| [12:50:16] | afc_: | https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ubuntu/30 |
| [12:51:21] | SteveGoodey: | afc_: See here https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?t=2999 |
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| [12:55:13] | afc_: | Awesome, thanks Steve – one of the commenters is right – it does run quicker, although it seemed to mangle the channel listings a bit (I have three USB tuners, and for the third one, it insisted on renaming all of its channels, rather than just combining the list). LiveTV issues I had with 0.29 have gone, too – for the moment, I will stick with dragon vision then! |
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| [12:56:52] | afc_: | Thanks Steve for your help – cheers everyone! |
| [12:57:05] | SteveGoodey: | afc_: NP |
| [12:57:26] | afc_: | :) |
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| [14:56:16] | vfw: | Just updated mythtv and unable to start mythbackend |
| [14:56:29] | vfw: | Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Sat 2019-02–16 08:46:15 CST; 6min |
| [14:56:37] | vfw: | ExecStart=/usr/bin/mythbackend --logpath /var/log/mythtv (code=exited, status=127) |
| [14:57:33] | vfw: | mythfrontend will not start either |
| [14:57:40] | vfw: | mythfrontend: error while loading shared libraries: libx265.so.165: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| [14:59:21] | vfw: | https://pastebin.com/7SyDeNPY |
| [14:59:38] | vfw: | Any help will be most appreciated |
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| [16:44:44] | ** enyc purrs ** | |
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| [17:11:46] | mkbloke: | vfw: it sounds like you're missing the libx265 shared object library file. This is likely to be either a failed dependency or a missing dependency in the package. The former is more likely if you're not using package management; the latter is more likely if you are using package management. You should perhaps try to establish whether or not you have any existing instances of libx265 on your |
| [17:11:52] | mkbloke: | system and what version they are by using the locate command in the first instance, i.e. 'locate libx265'. What distribution and version is your current O/S and how did you install MythTV – from source or via package? |
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