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| [15:29:15] | jarnos: | How can you prevent the same episode of a series from being recorded again? Is it improved in 29? |
| [15:37:52] | peterbennett: | jarnos: The system checks using the episode id from the listings source. |
| [15:38:37] | peterbennett: | jarnos: You don't have to do anything special, it will not normally record the same episode again. |
| [15:39:05] | peterbennett: | jarnos: This is not changed in 29 or 30 |
| [15:40:12] | jarnos: | peterbennett, well, I am using 0.28 and IIRC it does not work well in it. |
| [15:51:51] | jarnos: | peterbennett, How is episode id created? |
| [15:55:59] | jarnos: | And is it stored somewhere so that user can check it? |
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| [16:15:59] | peterbennett: | jarnos: It is downloaded with listings. What listing service do you use? |
| [16:16:18] | jarnos: | peterbennett, EIT |
| [16:16:22] | peterbennett: | jarnos: It is stored in the database. |
| [16:17:30] | peterbennett: | I think EIT may not have good episode ids or maybe have none. If there is no episode id it checkes other things for duplicates |
| [16:19:30] | peterbennett: | If you have mythweb, you can see the episode id there in the recorded programs. |
| [16:21:13] | peterbennett: | Or in frontend press I for Info. Look for Program ID |
| [16:33:23] | jarnos: | peterbennett, in MythWeb Program ID for every program is empty. Same thing for Subtitle. Description is different, though. |
| [16:34:16] | peterbennett: | If there is no program id it checks based on title and subtitle. If subtitle is empty then it will not be able to tell duplicates. |
| [16:35:58] | peterbennett: | You can sign up for schedules direct. That gives subtitles and program ids for everything and is very good with avoiding duplicates. |
| [16:36:53] | jarnos: | peterbennett, there is option for duplicate matching from description, too, but maybe it is buggy in 0.28 at least. https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Duplicate_matching |
| [16:39:09] | peterbennett: | I have not used description for dup checking. maybe the description does not exactly match what was there before. |
| [16:39:57] | peterbennett: | You can see the previous description in previously recorded. See if it matches the new one. |
| [16:50:40] | jarnos: | peterbennett, I see that the description matches exactly on the recorded episodes. |
| [16:56:24] | peterbennett: | Did you select the correct option in the recording rule? If so I don't know what the problem is. |
| [17:30:15] | iBDonC: | hello peter |
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| [18:42:09] | jarnos: | Is there a way to set default duplicate detection method? In my system the default seems to be "Subtitle and Description", but the value is invalid. |
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| [18:56:05] | jarnos: | I have upgraded mythtv from an older version, so maybe the old default has remained for that. |
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| [19:51:21] | jarnos: | Or is the default depending on locale? |
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| [20:32:12] | jarnos: | In IsDuplicateProgram() the method kDupCheckSubDesc is not handled at all even if it seems to be default! https://code.mythtv.org/doxygen/classProgramI . . . 14e86eec2362 |
| [20:32:43] | jarnos: | peterbennett, please see the above |
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| [20:40:29] | jarnos: | Though this says kDupCheckSubThenDesc is the default https://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/fa7576 . . . e41c0/mythtv |
| [20:41:36] | jarnos: | Maybe my database schema has not been updated properly or something... |
| [20:47:35] | peterbennett: | jarnos: It is not my area of expertise. With schedules direct it works very well 99% of the time, with program ids. I never could understand what the difference is between check title and subtitle vs check title then subtitle. |
| [20:48:28] | peterbennett: | jarnos: If there is a bug you could try asking on the mailing list, submitting a ticket or submitting a ticket with a patch. |
| [20:56:04] | jarnos: | peterbennett, in Finnish TV there does not seem to be Program IDs and subtitles so duplicate matching must be done by title and description. |
| [21:04:15] | peterbennett: | jarnos: Schedules direct has support for Finland, according to their web page. |
| [21:05:24] | peterbennett: | jarnos: You can also get a trial period from schedules direct to try out without paying first. |
| [21:05:38] | peterbennett: | http://www.schedulesdirect.org/regions |
| [21:05:47] | jarnos: | peterbennett, the 'then' method was added because sometimes in UK EIT program information were sometimes mixed between subtitle and description. https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/2655#no1 |
| [21:06:55] | peterbennett: | jarnos: You have just proved that you know more about it than I do :) |
| [21:07:38] | peterbennett: | I do not vouch for the accuracy of schedules direct but in the USA it is very accurate |
| [21:07:56] | jarnos: | peterbennett, is this "Schedules direct" somehow related to EIT? |
| [21:08:54] | peterbennett: | jarnos: No – it downloads the schedule from the Internet. |
| [21:11:46] | jarnos: | peterbennett, oh, but I think also the EIT way should work. There seems to be a way to set default before installation, but I do not know, if you can change it afterwards: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Locale_Configurations |
| [21:26:50] | natanojl: | jarnos: I don't know if you speak C/C++ but kDupCheckSubDesc = kDupCheckDesc | kDupCheckSub, and both kDupCheckDesc and kDupCheckSub are handled in that method |
| [21:27:09] | jarnos: | Anyway, completely unsupported value (kDupCheckSubDesc) should not be carried around especially as defaults. I do not know how to make a bug report about it. |
| [21:28:42] | jarnos: | natanojl, oh, I see |
| [21:32:07] | jarnos: | So ProgramInfo::IsDuplicateProgram always returns false, as subtitle is empty on Finnish EIT. kDupCheckDesc would be a better default. |
| [21:37:13] | jarnos: | using kDupCheckSubDesc makes ProgramInfo::IsDuplicateProgram always return false, if one or both of subtitle and description is empty. |
| [21:40:58] | enyc: | but but but but but ;p my frontend crashing |
| [21:41:12] | enyc: | http://anna.enyc.org.uk:6580/mythfrontend-crash-log.txt |
| [21:42:38] | enyc: | using 29.1+fixes.20181228 .... official package on 18.04 |
| [21:42:45] | enyc: | on same machine as backend |
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| [21:42:47] | enyc: | and used to work |
| [21:44:18] | jarnos: | natanojl, kDupCheckSubDesc could be handled so that only both Sub and Desc being empty would trigger false, not only one of them. |
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| [22:03:12] | enyc: | peterbennett: http://anna.enyc.org.uk:6580/mythtv-setup-log.txt |
| [22:10:54] | enyc: | also |
| [22:11:02] | enyc: | tried stopping backend manually and runnig mythtv-setup in debug mode |
| [22:11:25] | enyc: | http://anna.enyc.org.uk:6580/mythtv-setup-debug-log.txt |
| [22:12:03] | enyc: | and so.. mythtv-setup is also segfaulting! |
| [22:16:27] | peterbennett: | enyc: Need a back trace to see what is going on. In case it is OpenGL you could try running with -O ThemePainter=qt and see if it starts that way. |
| [22:16:44] | gigem: | jarnos: It sounds like you either want kDupCheckDesc or kDupCheckSubThenDesc. The default for new rules in the Default Template recording rule. |
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| [22:17:09] | enyc: | peterbennett: same parameter applies to mythtv-setup.real and mythfrontend ? |
| [22:17:27] | peterbennett: | enyc: I think so... |
| [22:17:45] | enyc: | oooooooooooo |
| [22:17:52] | enyc: | setup starts wit that ThemePainter=qt |
| [22:18:14] | enyc: | Could this be related to having to use an older (4.10?) kernel because of dvb drivers ? |
| [22:18:47] | peterbennett: | Means you have a broken OpenGL |
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| [22:18:50] | enyc: | AMD64 integrated graphics on board... Pae.r b Qlp.ooo 200 |
| [22:18:56] | enyc: | Radion Xpress 200 |
| [22:19:10] | enyc: | peterbennett: hrrm why would 18.04 have broken opengl ? |
| [22:19:39] | peterbennett: | Run glxgears to test opengl |
| [22:19:54] | peterbennett: | enyc: Is it very old hardware? |
| [22:20:05] | enyc: | glxgears works ok |
| [22:20:51] | enyc: | socket 939 amd64 |
| [22:21:13] | peterbennett: | Look for some up to date video drivers or live with qt |
| [22:21:36] | enyc: | bios date 2007 something (that may just be bios basecode, not release/update), o depends on your viewpoint! |
| [22:21:47] | peterbennett: | Did you run the Ubuntu "Additional Drivers" to see if there is a better driver? |
| [22:22:20] | enyc: | peterbennett: thing is it USED to work on here |
| [22:22:35] | enyc: | "No additional drivers available." |
| [22:22:41] | peterbennett: | 2007 – I think you need an upgrade. I had a laptop from around that era which had OpenGL issues |
| [22:22:49] | enyc: | hrrm |
| [22:23:06] | enyc: | this is the backend at present, i only want to run setup and olny occasionally frontend |
| [22:23:17] | enyc: | ok how do I program setup and frontend to always use qt, on this machine olny? |
| [22:23:24] | peterbennett: | Except mine would lock up the laptop if I tried OpenGL and need a gard reset |
| [22:24:07] | peterbennett: | Start frontend with -O ThemePainter=qt and then go into setup and select theme painter as QT |
| [22:24:21] | peterbennett: | Then it will always use QT on that frontend |
| [22:24:35] | peterbennett: | Also that will cause it to use QT on mythtv-setup |
| [22:25:20] | peterbennett: | For playback profile you will have to avoid OpenGL profiles, use Normal or Slim |
| [22:26:07] | enyc: | hrrm |
| [22:26:17] | enyc: | it offers OpenGL 1 as a choice, fwiw |
| [22:27:04] | peterbennett: | enyc: I would avoid OpenGL 1. I don't think that will work. |
| [22:27:54] | enyc: | we, it oes work |
| [22:28:43] | enyc: | both QT and OpenGL 1 work |
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| [22:35:24] | enyc: | peterbennett: thankyou for that bit of hel, now i ave new problem ;-( |
| [22:35:32] | enyc: | my UK dvb channel scanning isn't working now |
| [22:36:42] | ** enyc tests with the dvb-t2 adapter... ** | |
| [22:48:57] | enyc: | aha i was scanning in Australia-mode not UK-mode oops ;p |
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