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[01:18:53] p71: mengoshmink: ooh! *crosses fingers* (14/46): mythtv-29.1–17.19.20180510.g0849e99596.fc28.x86_64.rpm
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[01:54:00] p71: mengoshmink: nope :-( for me, same crash still.
[02:02:14] jm|laptop: rppm -i --force --nodeps mythtv-29.1–17.19.20180510.g0849e99596.fc28.x86_64.rpm
[02:12:11] p71: jm|laptop: it installed just fine. but unfortunately didn't fix the issue I have.
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[07:47:17] mengoshmink: p71, you may of not of updating everything required, I did sudo dnf clean all && sudo dnf update
[07:48:00] mengoshmink: I had 6 mythtv package updates
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[16:21:34] rtelpob: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Main_Page says :
[16:21:34] rtelpob: " Register yourself and contribute at https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Special:UserLogin "
[16:21:34] rtelpob: but Registration happens at :
[16:21:34] rtelpob: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Special:CreateAccount
[16:21:34] rtelpob: result is :
[16:21:35] rtelpob: " Permission error
[16:21:37] rtelpob: You do not have permission to do that, for the following reason:
[16:21:39] rtelpob: You are not allowed to execute the action you have requested. "
[16:21:41] rtelpob: so what is up ?
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[17:38:44] maarhart: Access denied for user 'mythtv'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[17:38:44] maarhart:
[17:38:47] maarhart: how can I fix this?
[17:39:16] maarhart: note: I can run mythfrontend from the master backend computer, but not from another computer
[17:53:03] Kwisher: sounds like the db connection is wrong from a remote fe
[17:53:44] Kwisher: maarhart: what distro?
[18:09:34] maarhart: mythfrontend is ubuntu
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[18:11:12] Kwisher: look on the backend for a hidden file in the mythtv users home folder names config.xml
[18:12:37] Kwisher: usually located in /home/mythtv/.mythtv/config.xml
[18:13:06] maarhart: I have it in ~/.mythtv/
[18:13:12] maarhart: so what about this ilef?
[18:13:13] maarhart: file
[18:13:14] maarhart: ?
[18:13:30] Kwisher: it contains the password for the db
[18:13:41] maarhart: myttvh
[18:13:42] maarhart: mythtv
[18:13:52] Kwisher: the same file is on each fe and needs to match the backend
[18:13:55] maarhart: but there is something strange:
[18:14:18] maarhart: <LocalHostName>my-unique-identifier-goes-here</LocalHostName>
[18:14:21] maarhart: is this correct?
[18:14:56] Kwisher: if you are going to use remote fe's you should also use a static ip on the be
[18:15:40] maarhart: yeah, it is dynamic at the moment, I will change this in the future.
[18:15:52] maarhart: but I am sure I should be able to use it now, right?
[18:16:35] Kwisher: not if the remote fe can't find the be
[18:16:40] maarhart: okay, I see a difference: should it be <Host>localhost</Host> or <Host>192.168.10.57</Host>?
[18:16:40] maarhart:
[18:16:40] maarhart:
[18:17:07] Kwisher: use the be ip
[18:17:44] maarhart: there is also <SecurityPin>0000</SecurityPin> in the config.xml of the fe
[18:17:44] maarhart:
[18:17:48] maarhart: but not in the be
[18:18:12] maarhart: and same thing for this: <USN>uuid:a7c4328a-93d7–4fcc-930e-f78ae44fd989::urn:schemas-mythtv-o rg:device:MasterMediaServer:1</USN>
[18:18:12] maarhart:
[18:19:14] Kwisher: mine contains neither
[18:19:43] maarhart: okay
[18:20:35] maarhart: okay, now that it is not localhost anymore, I cannot login to database
[18:20:40] maarhart: what should be my database host name?
[18:21:00] maarhart: the ip?
[18:21:56] Kwisher: you running buntu on the be?
[18:22:05] maarhart: debian
[18:23:10] maarhart: so what should be the database host name?
[18:24:09] Kwisher: here's my b/e config on xubuntu 18.04: http://dpaste.com/2RXR6YF
[18:24:50] maarhart: and it is identical in both computers, right?
[18:25:11] Kwisher: yes, i have 2 remote fe's
[18:26:31] Kwisher: well the fe has a few more lines but the important bits are the host, username, password, db name
[18:26:45] Kwisher: they need to match the be
[18:29:13] maarhart: okay. well, but you see my point. now that the it is not localhost anymore, the backend cannot connect to database
[18:29:20] maarhart: is this a mysql type of problem?
[18:29:52] Kwisher: sounds like it
[18:30:48] maarhart: and any clues on how to fix it?
[18:31:35] Kwisher: sorry, not sure how debian installs myth
[18:32:14] Kwisher: is this a fresh b/e install?
[18:33:10] maarhart: yes
[18:33:30] maarhart: it's same as ubuntu. I had this same type of issue in ubuntu in the past, I'm sure
[18:33:54] Kwisher: the b/e setup should show the db info
[18:34:51] cspack: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Database_Setup See the section on modifying mysql access for multiple systems
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[18:47:35] maarhart: cspack: sorry but nothning worth mentioning yet
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[18:48:59] maarhart`: I'm back
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[18:50:05] maarhart`: ...and back again
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[19:11:16] maarhart: so if I'm in the be
[19:11:32] maarhart: and I try mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -h 192.168.10.57
[19:11:38] maarhart: I get connection refused
[19:11:53] maarhart: whereas this will work: mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -h localhost
[19:14:48] cspack: because mysql treats them as different users. That's why you need to grant permissions for remote access.
[19:14:54] mack-: maarhart: is your mysql/mariadb on your be configured to allow network connections?
[19:15:02] cspack: per the wiki: "By default, the mc.sql script is only granting access to the local host."
[19:15:12] mack-: ^
[19:15:55] maarhart`: where is mc.sql?
[19:18:27] cspack: might depend on distro. on ubuntu it's /usr/share/mythtv/sql
[19:19:01] maarhart: so should I change mc.sql?
[19:19:04] maarhart: or what?
[19:19:15] cspack: no the wiki page I linked tells you how to do it.
[19:20:58] maarhart: yeah but I did that
[19:21:16] maarhart: the only difference is that I used sudo mysql -u root mythconverg
[19:21:19] maarhart: instead of mysql -u root mythconverg
[19:21:45] cspack: and what grant statement did you use?
[19:21:59] maarhart: I have to use sudo, otherwise I get ERROR 1698 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'
[19:22:19] maarhart: grant all on mythconverg.* to mythtv@"%" identified by "mythtv";
[19:22:48] maarhart: flush privileges;
[19:22:49] maarhart:
[19:24:07] cspack: ok that looks fine
[19:24:17] cspack: "You'll also need to check that the "networking" feature of MySQL is turned on. Check that /etc/mysql/my.cnf does not contain skip-networking. If it does, either remove that line or comment it out. Also verify that bind-address is set to your IP address instead of 127.0.0.1. If you change either of these items, restart MySQL"
[19:24:17] maarhart: then /etc/mysql/my.cnf looks like this:
[19:24:23] maarhart: [client-server]
[19:24:24] maarhart:
[19:24:24] maarhart: # Import all .cnf files from configuration directory
[19:24:24] maarhart: !includedir /etc/mysql/conf.d/
[19:24:26] maarhart: !includedir /etc/mysql/mariadb.conf.d/
[19:24:30] maarhart:
[19:25:03] mack-: there should be a myth.cnf in one of the conf.d dirs
[19:25:28] maarhart: in /etc/mysql/conf.d there is a mysql.cnf
[19:25:35] maarhart: which only says [mysql]
[19:25:42] maarhart: and I added a mythtv.cnf
[19:26:03] maarhart: which says:
[19:26:04] maarhart: [mysqld]
[19:26:05] maarhart: bind-address=192.168.10.57
[19:27:08] mack-: as long as your server address never changes, that should be fine as long as no skip-networking line is set
[19:27:44] mack-: so tired and sunburned.. grammar is hard :)
[19:28:00] maarhart: now when I run mythbackend, it complains about 'Empty LocalHostName.'
[19:28:02] maarhart: is this a problem?
[19:28:32] mack-: it can be. Some things like find-orphans.py break without hostnames set
[19:29:04] maarhart: but it is not related with this issue then
[19:30:15] mack-: not unless your fe's sql client is wanting to know a hostname, or is sending a request to one that isn't set
[19:31:22] mack-: it's good practice all around to have hostnames defined
[19:32:21] mack-: either manually or via dhcp
[19:37:36] maarhart`: so should I set it in mythtv config.xml?
[19:40:01] cspack: mine is just set to localhost in config.xml
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[19:41:29] cspack: did you restart mysql after changing bind-address?
[19:42:30] maarhart: yes
[19:42:32] Kwisher: hostname is a linux setting
[19:42:41] maarhart: what is your output for SELECT User, Host FROM mysql.user WHERE Host <> 'localhost'; ?
[19:42:47] Kwisher: the name of the pc
[19:43:15] maarhart: mine is a table where user is mythtv and host is %
[19:44:03] maarhart: can anybody try the following: sudo mysql -u root mythconverg
[19:44:03] maarhart:
[19:44:10] Kwisher: hostname is initially defined during o/s install
[19:44:22] maarhart: and then: SELECT User, Host FROM mysql.user WHERE Host <> 'localhost';
[19:44:22] maarhart:
[19:44:40] Kwisher: myth install will grab that name during it's install
[19:45:04] maarhart: Kwisher: could you please try that?
[19:45:33] maarhart: in your be
[19:47:29] cspack: maarhart: mine is the same, user: mythtv host: %
[19:48:33] maarhart: how to ensure that no firewall rules are blocking port 3306?
[19:51:17] mack-: maarhart: sudo iptables -L maybe? I haven't used it like a decade so memory fuzzy
[19:53:30] mack-: yep, that's it
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[19:59:07] maarhart: anyway, besides local host, the point here is that mysql -umythtv -pmythtv mythconverg -h 192.168.10.57 should work
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[20:00:34] cspack: maarhart: what is the output of "netstat -lntp |grep 3306"
[20:04:58] maarhart: tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -
[20:05:21] cspack: that shows it's only listening on the localhost
[20:06:15] cspack: check that there aren't any other cnf files overriding bind-address
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[20:19:11] mack-: or put 0.0.0.0 for bind address in mythtv.cnf
[20:21:17] maarhart: in the be, right?
[20:22:04] mack-: yes. mysqld needs to only be running on be
[20:24:29] cspack: I have bind-address=0.0.0.0 also, although mine is in mysqld.cnf. Just make sure it's not set in both places.
[20:25:23] maarhart: I only have mysql.cnf, not mysqld.cnf
[20:25:45] cspack: ok
[20:27:32] cspack: make sure to check in conf.d and also mariadb.conf.d for any cnf files
[20:30:16] mack-: you can see which variables end up being set by examining the database. show variables like "%networking%"; for example to see if skip-networking in on
[20:31:00] mack-: is* on
[20:33:39] maarhart: nothing
[20:34:04] maarhart: can anyone do the following? SELECT User, Host FROM mysql.user WHERE Host <> '%';
[20:34:06] mack-: I get OFF returned
[20:34:24] mack-: (for skip-networking)
[20:34:43] maarhart: I mean, after sudo mysql -u root mythconverg
[20:36:20] cspack: what about: "show variables like '%bind_address%'"
[20:38:17] mack-: I only have mythtv, localhost line in mysql.user
[20:38:32] maarhart: should i run that inside mysql, cspack?
[20:38:42] cspack: yep
[20:38:48] maarhart: ok
[20:39:26] cspack: and the one mack- suggested for skip_networking
[20:39:29] mack-: interestingly, no bind address in variables f ro me
[20:39:38] mack-: for* me
[20:40:02] cspack: if you type "show variables" do you get anything?
[20:41:18] maarhart: I get OFF for skip networking
[20:41:25] maarhart: nothing for bind address
[20:43:05] cspack: hmm weird
[20:43:39] cspack: what about: "show variables like '%bind%'"
[20:43:41] mack-: same for mine – not sure why it's not in variables
[20:45:23] maarhart: nothing, empty set
[20:47:23] cspack: maybe a version difference, not sure
[20:48:05] cspack: anyway did you try bind_address=0.0.0.0 ?
[20:50:12] maarhart: cspack: yes
[20:50:16] mack-: in .cnf files, it's bind-address (with hyphen)
[20:50:29] cspack: yeah sorry
[20:51:17] cspack: maarhart: and netstat still shows 127.0.0.1 ?
[20:52:28] mack-: according to mysql docs, order of reading .cnf files in /conf.d is not guaranteed. Maybe adding !includedir after the /etc/mysql/conf.d/ line to a directory specifically with your mythtv.cnf to make sure it loads last?
[20:52:51] mack-: might be less hassle to just go through conf.d one by one looking
[20:52:58] maarhart: not sure about your netstat question
[20:53:09] mack-: and comment out any bind-addresses except the one you want
[20:53:36] maarhart: too tired, I'm going to sleep. thanks.
[20:53:44] maarhart: will annoy you with this some other day
[20:55:15] mack-: maarhart: cspack was asking if the output of `netstat -lntp |grep 3306` still returned 127.0.0.1 in the local address column
[20:55:19] mack-: have a good night =)
[20:56:52] maarhart: tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN -
[20:57:03] maarhart: thanks. good nite
[20:57:13] cspack: nite
[20:57:24] mack-: cspack: I wonder if maarhart's install enabled IPv6
[20:57:46] maarhart: how could I disable it
[20:58:05] cspack: it must be bind-address getting overridden somehow
[20:58:25] mack-: Go to bed now :) somethign to think about tomorrow after looking for bind-addresses
[20:58:37] maarhart: actually it may be.
[20:58:49] maarhart: I mean, I remember in mythtv-setup
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[20:58:59] maarhart: in the part where you choose the master backend ip
[20:59:08] maarhart: one of the options was ::1 or something like that
[21:00:26] cspack: well it's definitely a mysql problem at the moment, not b/e
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[21:01:55] mack-: I think netstat -lntp |grep sql would list both ipv4 and v6 entries
[21:02:29] mack-: I don't have a mysql server running ipv6, though. Was planning that migration .... later.
[21:02:55] maarhart`: tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1799/mysqld
[21:03:25] maarhart`: anyway, going to sleep but leaving this on. so if you come up with ideas or solutions, I will read them. thanks@
[21:03:26] maarhart`: !
[21:03:35] mack-: yeah, your mysql only listening on ipv4
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[21:05:07] cspack: tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1148/mysqld
[21:05:17] cspack: should look something like that
[21:07:55] cspack: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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