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Monday, March 26th, 2018, 00:45 UTC
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[02:52:18] sutula: I'm really pulling my hair out, and there's not much left :-(
[02:52:56] sutula: Working to migrate a very old mythtv installation (0.24) to something more modern. Starting with Ubuntu 16.04 and the packages available there.
[02:53:38] sutula: Seems to be 2:0.28
[02:54:19] sutula: I install only a mythfrontend on a computer. When I try to start it for the first time, it seems to be wanting to do a mysql data dump. What for?
[02:54:30] [R]: "mysql data dump"?
[02:54:40] sutula: This is only a front end. Why is it ever messing with the back end server's database?
[02:55:23] sutula: "mysqldump"
[02:55:27] Kwisher: f/e has to connect to the b/e db
[02:55:47] sutula: Yes, but why is it needing to dump the whole DB?
[02:56:10] sutula: If it were to make a copy, the copy would instantly be out of sync.
[02:56:18] ** sutula is *so* confused **
[02:56:58] [R]: huh?
[02:57:01] sutula: I realize I'm years out of date, but why does the f/e need to be making a copy?
[02:57:02] [R]: what are you seeing?
[02:57:22] [R]: is your frontend a differnet version than the backed?
[02:57:23] Kwisher: i don't believe you can do a direct db upgrade from .24 to .27,8,9
[02:57:34] sutula: Well, the f/e is sitting there for minutes and minutes making a copy of the DB
[02:57:50] [R]: and the log says...
[02:58:00] sutula: The backend is running and has been through the upgrade process...
[02:58:05] [R]: and its the same version?
[02:58:21] sutula: yes
[02:58:28] [R]: and the log...
[02:58:37] sutula: from the b/e or f/e
[02:58:40] sutula: ?
[02:58:47] [R]: the forntend is the one acting stupid...
[02:58:52] [R]: why would i care about hte backend
[02:59:00] ** sutula looks **
[03:01:00] sutula: Mar 25 21:49:57 myth-mnd2 mythfrontend.real: mythfrontend[2752]: E CoreContext storagegroup.cpp:704 (FindNextDirMostFree) SG(DB Backups): FindNextDirMostFree: '/tmp/dbbackup' does not exist!
[03:01:00] sutula: Mar 25 21:49:57 myth-mnd2 mythfrontend.real: mythfrontend[2752]: E CoreContext dbutil.cpp:604 (DoBackup) Backing up database with script: '/usr/share/mythtv/mythconverg_backup.pl'
[03:01:20] sutula: (last two lines)
[03:01:41] sutula: Apparently, the F/E decided that there's no current DB backup so took it upon itself to make one?
[03:01:52] ** sutula finds his head exploding **
[03:02:19] sutula: Of course there's no DB backup on the F/E's local filesystem
[03:02:46] [R]: its making a backup
[03:02:50] [R]: because it wants to upgrade somethign
[03:03:19] sutula: Hmmm...so the B/E must not have completed it's upgrade or somesuch...
[03:03:28] [R]: its upgrading somethign not related to the backend
[03:03:40] sutula: OK, thanks...
[03:03:46] ** sutula settles down a little **
[03:21:02] sutula: Kwisher: If it turns out that mythtv-setup doesn't upgrade .24 to current, is there a semi-manual process? I'm still checking versions at this point.
[03:21:45] sutula: I assumed the b/e would refuse to run if it couldn't upgrade the DB.
[03:23:17] ** sutula is very thankful this is all one big "trial run" ...real b/e server is safely on a different machine and continues to chunk along **
[03:31:15] mack-: sutula: the db upgrade should be automatic with any version ≥ 0.22
[03:31:27] sutula: thanks, that
[03:31:44] sutula: thanks, that's what someone mentioned here a few weeks ago
[03:32:37] ** sutula has so far learned that a fresh install of 16.04 does not mean that packages have been upgraded :-( doing so now **
[03:33:17] mack-: new LTS 18.04 is coming next month ya know :)
[03:35:10] ** sutula (apparently) seems to not be keeping up to date **
[03:36:33] [R]: you need to install with 16.04.4 or whatever the latest is
[03:36:46] [R]: or do a netinstall
[03:46:07] ** sutula was doing a netinstall so had 'assumed' **
[03:47:07] [R]: if you do a netinstall, all the packages should be the latest
[03:51:23] ** sutula thought so too but has a four hour old install that has dozens of packages that now want to upgrade after "apt-get update; apt-get -u dist-upgrade" **
[03:51:36] sutula: "net-install"
[03:57:56] [R]: weird
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[18:08:34] maarhart`: I want to use raspberry pi as a backend. How can I make sure that the tv tuner will work before I start installing mythtv?
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[18:18:00] Kwisher: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:Hardware
[18:24:10] maarhart`: Kwisher: do you know if I need to install the MPEG-2 license to use mythtv as backend?
[18:24:59] Kwisher: iirc it's only required on a f/e for playback
[18:25:55] maarhart`: okay great
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[18:39:38] Kwisher: what type of tuner(s) you have?
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[18:48:03] jm|laptop: hello. I upgraded from 0.28 to 0.29 with dmo and at the same time ugpraded my capture card. I can't seem to find where to set max recordings in the new Capture Cards dialog. Can someone please cluebat me?
[18:53:28] Steve_Goodey: jmllaptop: Input connections, Interactions Between Inputs
[18:57:09] jm|laptop: ah. I shall look after this channel scan. Thank you.
[19:01:08] maarhart`: Kwisher: I have an elgato eyetv hybrid
[19:07:18] Kwisher: sorry, i asked you that earlier
[19:07:35] maarhart`: np
[19:09:55] maarhart`: I don't seem to have a2enmod. what do I need to install?
[19:13:17] Kwisher: that would be an apache command
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[19:54:17] Kwisher: maarhart`: what guide are you following?
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[20:22:03] maarhart`: what do I do if I get 'error parsing parameters'?
[20:22:24] maarhart`: (while trying to scan)
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