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[14:26:54] neolith100: instead of using the scan feature of mythtv, is it possible to create a channel lineup manually? Or do a scan using hdhomerun_config and import the channels into the channel editor?
[14:32:08] neolith100: or even better does the channel editor get scanned channels from the SQL server or is the file stored somewhere from the scan used in mythtv-setup?
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[16:17:09] mack-: neolith100: the channel editor just reads the info from the database, yes
[16:17:55] neolith100: ok that makes sense
[16:18:14] neolith100: how does the database get the channels
[16:18:15] neolith100: ?
[16:18:44] mack-: mythtv-setup
[16:22:24] neolith100: thank you
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[18:01:32] neolith100: huh, well now I am stumped
[18:03:11] neolith100: tried mythtv ver. 30, channel scan either in channel editor or input connections fails to find any channels
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[18:07:29] mack-: 29 is still fairly new in mythtv standards. You're brave trying 30 =)
[18:08:19] neolith100: lol, 29 was failing me and no channels could be found using it either so I gave 30 a try
[18:09:18] mack-: You said you had it once. At this point, I thikn I'd try going backward in version rather than forward
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[18:10:31] neolith100: that was also my conclusion... dang
[18:10:54] neolith100: 29 mythtv-setup is so very bad
[18:10:59] neolith100: so so very bad
[18:11:11] neolith100: I mean 28
[18:11:21] neolith100: hurts my eyes just looking at it
[18:12:08] neolith100: well, wish me luck!
[18:14:14] mack-: I'm still on 0.27 so it's all I know =)
[18:14:39] mack-: here's to luck
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[18:53:24] Kwisher: neolith100: did this work with a previous mth version?
[18:53:42] Kwisher: s/mth/myth
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[19:45:51] neolith100: yes, the first time I installed version 29 it worked
[19:46:22] neolith100: found all my channels... my problem has transformed since then
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[20:07:12] mack-: oh, I thought it was a previous version of myth that it had worked on and that v29 had changed the hdhr behavior.
[20:09:23] neolith100: nope, 29 worked perfectly the first time
[20:09:56] neolith100: well, perfectly meaning it could find channels and add them to the SQL database
[20:11:22] mack-: using the hdhr util/vlc displays the content, right?
[20:12:16] neolith100: yep
[20:13:42] mack-: it should just be a case of removing the capture card and video source in myth to clean out settings and add new to be like it was on first install. Unless v29 changed a whole lot :)
[20:14:15] neolith100: oh, you had the same idea I had... remove and re-add the tuner card. That was a no go
[20:14:40] mack-: sounds like your connection to SchD was confusing things
[20:15:12] neolith100: Possible, I just finished the complete purge and reinstall of version 28... we shall see what happens
[20:15:38] mack-: getting rid of both, rebooting for good measure, adding the capture card without a listings connection and just scanning for channels is what I'd do.
[20:16:21] mack-: fresh install of 28 should take care of the first two steps there :)
[20:16:35] neolith100: it's what I did, actually
[20:17:02] mack-: but it wasn't finding channels even with no video source and connections?
[20:17:04] neolith100: I swear I am not trying to kill your ideas, I genuinely tried them :-)
[20:17:12] mack-: hopefully v29 still calls it those things
[20:17:55] mack-: I always thought "video source" was a horrible name for where to set up a listings service
[20:18:55] neolith100: I agree... after this much time, a serious re-think of what things are called needs to be considered!
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[20:30:34] neolith100: well I should have seen this coming... "mythtv has newer tv schema than expected"
[20:31:39] neolith100: would dumping the database be a good move here?
[20:32:57] neolith100: eh it's not filled with anything... dumping!
[20:39:26] neolith100: ok, simple afterthought... that was a mistake
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[20:48:52] neolith100: so... anyone know how to recreate the mythconverg database?
[20:52:42] neolith100: so anyone who should need it... sudo apt-get install --reinstall mythtv-database
[20:53:16] neolith100: hey thanks devs!
[21:15:15] neolith100: AHHH! YES! Channel come unto me!
[21:15:22] neolith100: that is what is missing!!!
[21:15:46] neolith100: seriously devs, 29 needs modulation options!
[21:16:14] neolith100: we should be able to choose the modulation when scanning in 29!
[21:16:20] neolith100: that was what I needed
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[21:27:55] mack-: grats, neolith100! :) Guessing someone read the official specs of the hdhr and not the faq when they coded something for the hdhr in 29
[21:28:21] mack-: well, consumer page specs instead of official specs I should say
[21:28:53] mack-: although, it must have autodetected something on your first v29 install
[21:31:26] neolith100: woo! thank you, thank you
[21:32:10] neolith100: seems like it... or maybe the intent was some auto detection system for the modulation in 29
[21:32:21] neolith100: that just worked once
[21:34:44] neolith100: I did notice something that bothered me all this time, when I would do a channel scan I would always get the ATSC – 2: no signal, type thingy in the column... the first time it would say QAM 2: channel locked, everytime after that was always ATSC
[21:35:54] neolith100: I think I will tackle the bigger problem of my lineup BS next weekend...
[21:38:54] mack-: if SD has your cable provider lineup, you can use that, then if you want local station numbers you *should* be able to use the channel editor to change the display numbers/names
[21:41:45] neolith100: I received a reply when I emailed them about my lineup, (man they are fast!) I won't call out names or anything but he had the idea I had early on before the "tuning" disaster... "You'll need to manually correlate the channels you found via QAM with the XMLTV id's of the channels in the lineup."
[21:46:20] mack-: where would one do that correlation?
[21:49:13] neolith100: channel editor in mythweb
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[21:53:37] mack-: ah
[21:55:01] Kwisher: i've had to do that in the past when comcast still had open QAM
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