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[01:24:12] Kwisher: anyone else notice comm detection has gotten worse since the last couple of updates with .29?
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[01:31:21] koffel: hae noticed that frontend lags
[01:32:00] Kwisher: yeah, i see that also
[01:34:48] koffel: it seems takes forever to start lie tv
[01:34:53] koffel: livetv
[01:34:58] Kwisher: yep
[01:35:41] Kwisher: seems to start browsing video library take a long time to load
[01:36:03] koffel: yeah
[01:38:29] Kwisher: watching a 1 hour recording from last night, about 40 mins in without a single comm skip
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[02:41:48] Hydr0p0nX: comm detectio for me has been a bit conservative usually an extra minute of commercials
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[19:34:37] neolith100: mythtv 0.29, HDhomerun connect duo, channel scan produces no results, hdhomerun_config scan shows channel lineup, hdhr web interface shows channel lineup as well
[19:36:38] Kwisher: what's the source?
[19:42:05] neolith100: EIT grabber from the HDHR
[19:43:05] Kwisher: no, the input source
[19:44:17] neolith100: the vocab still gets me, to what are you referring?
[19:44:40] Kwisher: cable, antennae
[19:44:54] neolith100: ah! this is will be
[19:44:56] neolith100: fun
[19:45:23] neolith100: I have clear QAM broadcast on cable
[19:46:08] Kwisher: now i remember
[19:46:11] neolith100: lol
[19:46:29] Kwisher: do you change your irc nick here?
[19:46:36] neolith100: not on purpose
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[19:49:09] neolith100: I think I used neolith before... I tend to use either, sorry about that
[19:51:46] Kwisher: does SD show the QAM channels?
[19:53:01] neolith100: no it does not... side note: sadly my trial period ran out today. Had to move to EIT only for now
[19:53:23] Kwisher: have you looked at zap2it
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[19:53:57] neolith100: SD only shows whole number channel, I did try scte65scan this morning to no avail. zap2it also shows only whole numbers
[19:54:39] neolith100: like 3 KTVDT, 3 KTVKDT2 and 3 KTVKDT
[19:54:40] Kwisher: not sure what to tell ya
[19:54:52] neolith100: I know right?!
[19:54:53] neolith100: lol
[19:55:01] Kwisher: time to leave work, later
[19:55:06] neolith100: later
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[20:28:27] neolith100: I have noticed in "setup general" changing "locale settings" doesn't seem to change the scanning method/type when using HDHomeRun tuners.
[20:28:56] neolith100: I would love to help improve this if someone can tell me how to present proof
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[20:29:12] mack-: neolith100: it's my understanding any listing for your cable lineup will be whole numbers. If you want local channel numbers, you'll have to pull over-the-air listings for your area.
[20:30:31] mack-: not sure if it's easy to match the QAM to the OTA lineup, tho
[20:31:21] neolith100: pulling OTA listings should work using the -bcast setting, right?
[20:32:37] mack-: firing up mythtv-setup
[20:34:05] neolith100: cool, thank you. I feel like setting antenna in locale should force hdhomerun to do a QAM channel scan
[20:34:55] neolith100: the odd thing is this worked when I first tried it, scanned and loaded the channels (albeit with no program info) the first time I used MythTV
[20:35:41] gregl: neolith100, What part of the world are you?
[20:36:24] neolith100: United States, try to look past that as best you can
[20:37:16] mack-: geez, been forever since I've looked at this stuff. I'm also running 0.27, so things might look a bit different for you
[20:37:42] neolith100: lol just a bit, seems .28 and .29 look very different
[20:37:59] neolith100: the interface is much better though!
[20:38:38] gregl: neolith100, I'am pretty sure you need astc here in the USA,,, That is unless you are using cable,,
[20:39:31] mack-: neo's getting locals via cable
[20:40:10] mack-: but as I understand, not wanting the cable channel numbering scheme
[20:41:03] neolith100: mack, correct delivered as QAM
[20:41:51] mack-: oh wait. you said you have Connect Duo. That's just atsc tuner isn't it?
[20:42:05] gregl: I think i would try to get it working first,then work on the numbering..
[20:42:51] neolith100: no, I double checked using the hdhomerun_config, it does QAM and a bunch of others. Yeah at this point I am just trying to generate a "basic" channel list
[20:42:56] mack-: stick some rabbit ears on that hdhr, pull it atsc terrestrial
[20:43:05] mack-: ah, ok
[20:44:42] neolith100: I can always try and update the xlmtvids when I get the basic lineup set
[20:44:55] neolith100: but I can't get mythtv to scan correctly
[20:45:14] neolith100: it keeps trying to scan ATSC for some reason
[20:45:53] gregl: Thats because that is all the duo will do.. Lok\ok it up..
[20:46:00] gregl: look
[20:47:26] neolith100: AX1420-UR10P:~$ hdhomerun_config 10625E2B get /sys/features channelmap: us-bcast us-cable us-hrc us-irc kr-bcast kr-cable modulation: 8vsb qam256 qam64 auto-modulation: auto auto6t auto6c qam
[20:47:26] mack-: I assumed it was still the same functionality of my ancient HDHR, which only does atsc
[20:48:05] neolith100: totally does QAM, I checked before I bought it
[20:49:19] gregl: What you are saying is just the opposite of what the SD web site says.. Good luck..
[20:49:33] neolith100: oh no!
[20:49:38] neolith100: what does it says?
[20:49:41] mack-: does kr-bcast use qam or something?
[20:49:56] mack-: bc us-bcast uses 8vsb
[20:51:14] neolith100: lol, who knows but I am in the u.s. so I am not too worried about it
[20:51:26] gregl: https://www.silicondust.com/product/hdhomerun-duo/
[20:51:55] neolith100: but I know it works, the channel scan worked not two weeks ago
[20:51:58] mack-: I said that, in case that qam is there in /sys/features to work with kr or something
[20:52:59] mack-: did it scan atsc due to the "antenna" (whatever coax cable was plugged in)?
[20:56:12] neolith100: I don't think so, I can watch TV right now using the HDhomeRun app... I am watching cartoon network right now just to confirm it works
[20:57:32] mack-: from the FAQ, btw: HDHomeRun Connect (HDHR4–2US) (HDHR4–2DT) is designed to receive over the air ATSC in the US, Canada, Mexico, the EU, UK, Australasia and other locations that utilize the ATSC broadcast standard. It can also receive clear QAM unencrypted digital cable TV from providers who offer this to their customers. It has 2 tuners, allowing you to access 2 channels at once.
[20:58:02] neolith100: that is what I have, clear QAM unencrypted digital cable TV
[20:58:39] mack-: *nod*
[20:59:21] mack-: you have your hdhr on the provider side of any set top box, right?
[20:59:37] neolith100: that is where I come back to, I think a recent mythtv update broke that type of scan for my tuner
[21:00:26] neolith100: I don't have a set top box
[21:01:08] neolith100: but yes, it is connected directly to the wall nothing in between
[21:01:50] mack-: I saw on the mythtv-users list some people are suddenly getting their clear qam cut from their provider
[21:03:12] neolith100: oh yeah that is very much happening, not for me though, that is how the apartment complex is setup. Designed to use clear QAM to broadcast "cable" channels such as CN and HBO
[21:04:41] neolith100: to be fair, I am a "corner" case
[21:08:36] neolith100: but TiVo has failed me so... Mythtv is my only option
[21:10:34] neolith100: I genuinely appreciate the input everyone, I will still attempt to get it working even if I have to rewrite some code. back in a bit!
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[21:23:28] justinh: hmm. with sd_json is there any way to find out which channels are which xmltvids?
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