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Sunday, February 12th, 2017, 00:14 UTC
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[00:24:25] Zzeiss: OK, brand new install of the Xubuntu onto the NUC i3.
[00:24:52] Kwisher: again?
[00:25:03] Zzeiss: I've added the PPA, did an apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; shutdown -r now.
[00:25:12] Zzeiss: What next?
[00:26:11] Kwisher: use the control centre to choose your options
[00:28:10] Zzeiss: As in "apt-get install mythtv-control-center"
[00:28:13] Zzeiss: ?
[00:28:42] Kwisher: mythbuntu-control-centre
[00:29:26] Zzeiss: doing it now.
[00:30:28] Zzeiss: (yes, this is a retry because after a reboot live tv died... couldn't figure out what I'd hosed)
[00:32:08] Kwisher: that could have been easy to fix
[00:32:45] Zzeiss: Maybe. I kicked it around for maybe four hours and decided to cut my losses.
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[00:46:48] Zzeiss: ok, I'm in mythbuntu-control-centre. Now what?
[00:47:13] Kwisher: select your options in all sections
[00:48:04] Zzeiss: (already tried proprietary codec support and libdvdcss2 won't install, with error "local variable 'rootpath' referenced before assignment"
[00:48:38] Kwisher: you can add the restricted-extras package later
[00:49:12] Zzeiss: So what do I *need* to do.... Yes I am recording this so I can update the web page.
[00:49:54] Zzeiss: (hold on, little kid is hungry...)
[00:50:06] Kwisher: it's not rocket science
[00:52:33] Zzeiss: Except that this is my third start-from-clean-install, and I want to get it right this time.
[00:52:49] Zzeiss: Backup and restore – no, not doing a backup or restore.
[00:52:55] Zzeiss: Infrared – have none
[00:53:01] Zzeiss: Mysql....
[00:53:21] Zzeiss: test connection says "OK"
[00:53:25] Kwisher: do the b/e & f/e option
[00:54:39] Zzeiss: I assume you mean that under "system roles"
[00:54:55] Kwisher: going from memory
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[01:24:48] grkblood13: im having audio issues where when i put it on a live channel the audio will go out of sync and itll eventually get worse. it seems it happens if the video jitters for a second. once i change the channel and go baack the audio will be fine.
[01:26:14] Kwisher: grkblood13: look in f/e audio settings, enable "extra buffering" iirc
[01:29:34] grkblood13: front end you mean?
[01:29:44] Kwisher: yes
[01:29:46] grkblood13: im running the kodi addon and i dont see that option
[01:30:12] Kwisher: then it's a kodi issue
[01:30:37] Kwisher: wrong channel
[01:31:01] grkblood13: what channel supports the mythtv pvr client addon?
[01:31:11] Kwisher: no idea
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[01:41:49] Zzeiss: Kwisher: the install hung about 1/2 way through.
[01:43:00] tgm4883: grkblood13: my assumption would be the kodi channel
[01:43:06] Kwisher: try it again
[01:55:57] Zzeiss: kill off mythbuntu-control-centre first? Cold-boot?
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[01:58:51] Kwisher: don't have to
[01:59:44] Kwisher: this isn't windows
[02:01:08] Zzeiss: Well, the program is hung... so kill -9 time?
[02:02:02] Kwisher: sure
[02:06:44] tgm4883: MCC hung? That's interesting
[02:11:18] Zzeiss: top doesn't show anything actually running. Looks like a hang, not an infinite loop
[02:11:33] Kwisher: install htop
[02:12:45] Zzeiss: hurm.... "unable to get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock" looks like something is not letting go of the repo db.
[02:13:21] Kwisher: probably mcc
[02:13:34] Zzeiss: already killed mcc
[02:13:47] Zzeiss: it was aptd.
[02:16:29] Zzeiss: and rerunning – a whole slew of errors. Mostly focussed around Gtk2.pm missing.
[02:19:24] Zzeiss: But it seemed to have installed something.
[02:19:34] Zzeiss: Running backend setup now...
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[02:21:10] Zzeiss: and I'm stuck back in the infinite loop of "Country / Language"
[02:21:45] Zzeiss: click save, click next, click next, and it's back to "Country / Language"
[02:21:56] Zzeiss: Been here before.
[02:21:59] Kwisher: you have to edit the config.xml
[02:22:48] Kwisher: do you want me to provide the channel logs form your last visit?
[02:22:55] Zzeiss: I still have them.
[02:23:34] Zzeiss: I would suggest, however, that having to edit one's config.xml instead of having setup "make it right"... is a bug.
[02:23:55] Kwisher: /etc/mythtv/config.xml
[02:25:41] Kwisher: the file in the ~/mythtv/.mythtv needs to match
[02:28:05] Zzeiss: Ok, bug then.... mythtv_backend_setup should copy /etc/mythtv/config.xml to ~/.mythtv/config.xml if the latter isn't already in existence. And maybe even if it is.
[02:33:00] Zzeiss: Because something is putting actively bad data there. That's a bug.
[02:36:34] Zzeiss: OK, "Storage Directories" – what should I put there?
[02:38:48] Zzeiss: (this may have been where I blew it up last time)
[02:40:25] Kwisher: iirc, default is where recordings are stored
[02:40:40] Kwisher: livetv is....
[02:41:21] Kwisher: both need mythtv to have full read/write perms
[02:41:43] Zzeiss: Aaah, but when I try to exit Mythtv-setup, it complains that "No storage group directories are defined. You must add at least one directory to the Default Storage Group"
[02:42:03] Kwisher: follow the directions
[02:45:15] Zzeiss: I did and it didn't.
[02:46:20] Zzeiss: Specifically, I tried "~/". I created directories like "StoreHere" and "MythStorageHere". I set them to r/w worldwide. Nothing got rid of the error.
[02:46:35] Zzeiss: So I am clearly not understanding what needs to go there.
[02:46:56] Kwisher: put the full path
[02:47:43] Zzeiss: and "/home/myaccount" should be adequate, right?
[02:48:09] Kwisher: like: /home/mythtv/recordings & /home/mythtv/livetv
[02:48:28] Zzeiss: hmmm... yes, it was. Odd... Didn't do that last time. But that's a good thing.  :-)
[02:48:39] Kwisher: or whatever user acount or you can also use a separate drive
[02:51:37] Kwisher: just make sure there is plenty of free space
[03:02:21] Zzeiss: 480 Gbytes of .M2 should be enough.
[03:02:32] Zzeiss: But now mythbackend is hung.
[03:05:03] Zzeiss: It starts up running – front end thinks it's connected. But it won't actually do anything, like watch TV.
[03:05:43] Kwisher: add tuners?
[03:12:22] Zzeiss: Added tuners. Added lineups (have an active SDirect acct).
[03:12:33] Zzeiss: Even did the channel scan OK.
[03:13:17] Kwisher: b/e log??
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[03:22:44] Zzeiss: Nothing very incriminating in the backend log. Lots of client requests, connected, adding, disconnected.
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[03:27:57] Kwisher: livetv not working is usually a folder perm issue
[03:31:51] Zzeiss: It shows as drwxrwxr-x
[03:32:09] Zzeiss: though ... hmmm... maybe should be a:rwx
[03:33:15] Kwisher: do: sudo chown mythtv:mythtv -R /path
[03:36:13] Zzeiss: it's already mythtv
[03:36:27] Zzeiss: I just set it to 777 and now I can stay connected but not getting a lock.
[03:36:37] Zzeiss: Could just be not on a real channel...
[03:37:56] Zzeiss: no, retuning is not getting me anywhere/
[03:43:23] Zzeiss: And going back into setup shows my SchedulesDirect info and channels are gone.
[03:45:57] Zzeiss: Seems to have lost my tuner as well. "Could not get card info for card /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0Subtype: Unknown error."
[03:46:05] Zzeiss: Well, that explains the tuner problem.
[03:46:43] Kwisher: do you have to load firmware for tuner?
[03:47:10] Zzeiss: No. And didn't before either.
[03:47:37] Zzeiss: It's a WinTV 950Q
[03:48:23] Kwisher: you can use vlc to check your tuner
[03:50:56] Zzeiss: and the network is horked too.
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[04:12:03] Zzeiss: Reboot. Mythfilldatabase is running now. That's a good sign.
[04:12:17] Zzeiss: (I may have a bad tuner stick. That would not surprise me)
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[04:18:03] Zzeiss: "tuner 1 has an error". Why do I see a Silicon Dust in my future?
[04:21:02] Zzeiss: Tuner errored out again. Swapped in my 2nd 950Q. Same error. What are the odds on that?
[04:22:04] Zzeiss: Well, thanks for help. Time for me to go to sleep (again)
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[07:42:43] Kwisher: Zzeiss: my google searches show some extra firmware needed
[07:43:14] Kwisher: Zzeiss: https://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-950Q
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[13:44:39] Zzeiss: Kwisher: Ahhh.... looks like it. But why would it have worked several times before?
[13:45:16] Zzeiss: (though timeout / powerdown might have been the cause of the hangs; that at least is plausible)
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[15:10:07] Zzeiss: Kwisher: It's waking up functional now. Now doing the timeout test. (Thanks!)
[15:10:34] Zzeiss: (rather, long-duration timeout test. Short one passed, so I updated the Wiki to save someone else's time)
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[15:16:06] Kwisher: Zzeiss: heard of tvtime? another simple app to check your tuner
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[15:17:59] Zzeiss: Yes, but the tuner is working *now*. The problem seems to be that it would hang after some period of time of unuse. My (unsubstantiated bet) is that the erratic behavior was the EIT crawl; it would keep the tuner active for a fairly long time and that was fooling me; I'd see the tuner start dropping within a couple of minutes of bootup.
[15:18:28] Zzeiss: (and it's a good thing, too, I seem to have inherited FOUR of these HVR-950Q tuners.
[15:19:58] Zzeiss: Probably got 'em in a box at a flea market.
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[15:24:17] Kwisher: hard to beat a HDHR device
[15:26:53] Zzeiss: Yeah, but I *have* these. Already. *Four* of them.
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[15:27:29] Kwisher: what do they sell for on eBay?
[15:29:37] Kwisher: looks like $20-$40
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[15:48:08] Zzeiss: Good point. Barely worth selling them off. Probably keep them as lappie plug-ins.
[15:48:32] Zzeiss: Ahhh, monitor timeout. Let's see if the tuner wakes up.
[15:49:28] Zzeiss: Tuner wakes up just fine.
[15:51:41] Zzeiss: On the other hand, it might be doing another EIT scan.
[15:52:38] Zzeiss: (how long does an EIT scan take?)
[15:54:57] Zzeiss: Well, may as well install STEAM and a couple of games.  :-)
[15:56:21] Zzeiss: Again, thanks!
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