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Friday, January 6th, 2017, 00:10 UTC
[00:10:56] Kwisher: finally found it
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[04:42:54] RedPenguin: So far my MythTV is still recording just fine
[04:43:07] RedPenguin: I took a look at the logs again and I can't figure out why it randomly fails at times
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[04:43:27] RedPenguin: I see no real warnings in the llog file or anything, just every once in a while failed to tune
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[05:35:31] dekarl: Kwisher: morning. IIRC recording profile mostly has analogue days settings
[05:36:49] dekarl: yep, mostly analogue stuff https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Setup_Recording_Profiles
[06:22:50] RedPenguin: now that's odd
[06:23:19] RedPenguin: in my log it says "file should be local" then says "failing recording"
[06:23:33] RedPenguin: but I seem to have the two shows recorded just fine in Frontend even though they have yellow icon
[06:24:01] RedPenguin: it says to check tuner timeout interval, but the same tuner worked perfectly a half hour earlier for a diff channel
[06:26:50] RedPenguin: Guess will see what happens after increasing timeout
[06:48:39] RedPenguin: doubled the timeout, guess will see what happens
[06:51:17] dekarl: RedPenguin: makes sense. recording failures can very well be related to the channel (e.g. frequency with more interference, badly implemented service information, etc)
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[06:54:18] RedPenguin: It did seem like in HDHomeRun Config GUI that Ch 82 did take a tad bit to load
[06:54:33] RedPenguin: Because the exact same tuner on Channel 80 recorded two days perfectly
[06:54:48] RedPenguin: But two days when it had to go to Ch 82 it said failed but oddly I still got a recording tonight
[06:55:51] RedPenguin: oddly I touched nothing and this problem only started for 2 days
[06:57:17] dekarl: do you get popups about failed tunings that later success (after the timeout)? that shoudl lead to existing recordings flagged as corrupt/failed
[06:58:18] RedPenguin: Yesterday I got at least 4 (2 each for two different shows) saying failed
[06:58:31] RedPenguin: But I don't remember seeing popups for sucess at all
[06:59:12] RedPenguin: but tonight I didn't get a chance to see frontend quickly enough to see any popups
[07:01:21] RedPenguin: only thing I really see in the log/popups
[07:01:28] RedPenguin: "Taking longer than 3000ms to get a lock"
[07:04:18] dekarl: the other follows up with a short " successfully aquired a lock after 5000ms" that vanished faster then the failure popup
[07:04:37] dekarl: ^- don't nail me on the text, just translated it back to english from memory
[07:10:35] RedPenguin: Not exactly sure why
[07:10:44] RedPenguin: but my buddy also running same MythTV and Mythbuntu
[07:10:53] RedPenguin: he's getting the issue on Ch 80 but mine isn't getting it
[07:11:08] RedPenguin: We seem to have the exact same issue but on different frequencies
[07:11:34] RedPenguin: Not sure what you do to track down the taking longer to lock
[07:12:03] dekarl: you could try tuning to the frequency and monitor the receiption quality with dvbtune -m
[07:12:35] dekarl: if its analogue interference of some kind then its not unusual that different locations can have different interference
[07:13:32] RedPenguin: I know we get fun interference here
[07:13:59] RedPenguin: It seems OTA Ch 34 seems to interference with Cable 85 for example
[07:14:44] RedPenguin: Ch 85 will bounce up and down in quality on a daily basis soemtimes
[07:14:44] RedPenguin: Happens all over the city
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[08:59:54] jarnos: I can't get remote frontend work on one machine. It always opens the country/language dialog.
[09:00:51] jarnos: It works on another remote frontend that I installed earlier. I don't remember what I did differently.
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[09:04:00] jarnos: Terminal output of mythfrontend tells it can not connect to MySQL server.
[09:07:25] stuarta: are you missing the qt mysql module?
[09:07:48] stuarta: might also be helpful to pastebin the relevant output
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[09:30:20] jarnos: stuarta, I succeeded after I copied (modified) /etc/mythtv/config.xml to ~/.mythtv/ and deleted $HOME/mythtv/.mythtv
[09:30:41] stuarta: interesting...
[09:31:08] stuarta: ~/.mythtv is the correct path
[09:31:22] jarnos: sorry, deleted /home/mythtv/.mythtv, but it may be unneccessary.
[09:31:51] stuarta: it does look in /etc/mythtv as well ast $HOME/.mythtv/
[09:36:18] jarnos: stuarta, if I delete the file in ~/.mythtv, it can not connect, even if the same file is in /etc/mythtv/ . Maybe owner/permissions matter?
[09:37:25] stuarta: you must be able to read it
[09:37:37] jarnos: Is it bad to modify the file in /etc/mythtv in the remote frontend pc or is it reserved for local backend?
[09:38:46] stuarta: i would normally keep a config in ~/.mythtv
[09:41:52] jarnos: stuarta, what if you want guest session to be able to watch tv?
[09:42:56] jarnos: I am able to read it since I am on mythtv group.
[09:43:09] stuarta: what's the use case?
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[11:59:43] Kwisher: dekarl: are you saying that start early setting only applies to analog recordings? I changed the start early setting on all recordings for last night and it did not seem to make any difference, still missing the start of the program
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[17:20:03] jarnos: stuarta, use case is for a visitor to watch tv by mythtv in guest session in (x)ubuntu.
[17:20:46] jarnos: Now it fails to start, even if proper config.xml is at ~/.mythtv/
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[18:37:41] tgm4883: jarnos: are you able to connect to mysql from the command line of that guest session?
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[18:38:47] jarnos: tgm4883, maybe, by which command?
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[19:08:30] tgm4883: jarnos: mysql -h <HOSTIP> -u mythtv -p mythconverg
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[19:19:56] jarnos: tgm4883, it seems so. I get mysql>
[19:20:22] tgm4883: jarnos: ok, so then I'd say probably a MythTV issue then. Odd though, I might try to reproduce here in a bit
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[20:24:32] jarnos: tgm4883, I used this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeGu . . . purpose_user
[20:26:30] jarnos: Even when logged in as that "guest-prefs" user, there is some oddity: it can not find Mythbuntu theme unlike when logged in as default user.
[20:31:25] stuarta: well did you download it for that user?
[20:43:23] jarnos: stuarta, I did not download it for any specific user.
[20:43:52] stuarta: tgm4883: you have any theories on that one then?
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[21:03:28] jarnos: It is trying to find /usr/share/mythtv/themes/Mythbuntu, but it is not there.
[21:03:45] jarnos: Mythbuntu theme has some different path.
[21:07:53] jarnos: guest session fails to use lirc even if guest-prefs can use it.
[21:09:16] dekarl: Kwisher: I just looked at the log. I only mentioned analogue with regard to transmission errors. So I'm not sure what you mean.
[21:10:17] dekarl: that's strange. how much was missing earlier, how much start early did you configure and how much is missing now?
[21:11:03] dekarl: there is a patch floating around (since today) to show the actual wall clock time of the recording. that might come in handy to figure out such issues
[21:11:48] dekarl: another thought. did you try to rewind past the beginning of the programme? we have a relatively new feature to jumps over the "start early" to the beginning of the programme if you don't have a cut list already.
[21:14:06] stuarta: jarnos: ah, well where is the theme?
[21:15:07] jarnos: stuarta, I don't know, but when I run the frontend from my main user, it finds it.
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[21:18:21] tgm4883: jarnos: what if you force the default theme?
[21:19:05] jarnos: tgm4883, like how?
[21:19:36] tgm4883: jarnos: mythfrontend.real -O Theme=terra
[21:19:45] tgm4883: stuarta: is terra the default theme?
[21:20:37] jarnos: tgm4883, terra is used even without that option, but what if I want to use the Mythbuntu theme?
[21:20:51] tgm4883: jarnos: mythfrontend.real -O Theme=mythbuntu
[21:20:58] tgm4883: i think that is right
[21:21:25] tgm4883: jarnos: you could also attempt downloading the mythbuntu theme and putting it in ~/.mythtv/themes/
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[21:21:41] tgm4883: since that is where themes are downloaded to
[21:25:03] stuarta: tgm4883: yes, for 0.28, although it got changed about 20mins ago for master :-p
[21:26:25] jarnos: tgm4883, oh, there is it on main user's dir. I wonder why it is not in some root's dir.
[21:27:06] stuarta: jarnos: it belongs in ~/.mythtv/themes
[21:27:16] stuarta: although you can setup a storage group for themese
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