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Monday, November 7th, 2016, 00:58 UTC
[00:58:25] fbnts: [R] I just assumed it would. I am trying to diagnose an weird issue with some scheduled recordings ending early and was trying to see the end time scheduled for upcoming recordings
[00:58:59] [R]: i think theres a mythutil command to get it to print the upcoming list
[00:59:03] [R]: you can also look at it in mythweb
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[01:01:31] fbnts: I'll have a look at the mythutil command. I was using mythtv-status which only shows start time. Mythweb only shows the anticipated record length, which doesn't help as the recordings that ended early stated there the correct length but the backend just ended the recording 30 minutes early
[01:02:29] [R]: what does the log say
[01:03:05] fbnts: Nov 5 21:00:00 mythtv-server mythbackend: mythbackend[24332]: N RecThread recorders/recorderbase.cpp:496 (FinishRecording) Finished Recording: Container: MPEG2-TS Video Codec: mpeg2video (720x576 A/R: 3 25fps) Audio Codec: mp2
[01:03:31] fbnts: it started at 20:00 and should have ended at 21:50
[01:04:26] fbnts: Sorry, 21:40 not 21:50. the recording in the mythweb says: "Sat, Nov 5, 08:00 PM to 09:40 PM (60 mins)"
[01:05:00] [R]: odd
[01:05:03] fbnts: so in this particular recording it ended 40 mins early, but others can be 30 mins early etc
[01:05:03] [R]: nothing else in the log?
[01:05:41] fbnts: I've only noticed it on recordings on a Friday and Saturday so far (the last 3 weeks)
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[01:07:50] fbnts: http://pastebin.com/0Qudbj53
[01:08:16] fbnts: no errors, just that it thinks it has successfully recorded
[01:15:32] fbnts: I have just noticed though, when it ends early, it seems to be when the back end is about to start a new recording on another channel. Both recordings are on the same sourceid but different tuners
[01:20:55] fbnts: actually, same tuner just different cardid. The two programs are on the same multiplex (UK PSB3 HD multiplex)
[01:21:42] [R]: if its differnet tuners and the same multiplex, it should be able to handle it
[01:21:52] [R]: differnet card*
[01:25:25] fbnts: its the same tuner, cardid 1 ends (prematurely) then recording for next program starts on cardid 2 (I have a quad DVB-T2 card) cardid 1–5 are adaptor0
[01:25:44] Kwisher: fbnts: did you look into the card priorities?
[01:27:09] fbnts: Kwisher: I haven't changed any priorities. It has always just 'worked'.
[01:28:17] fbnts: for this recoding I'm looking at, it was on channel 1101 which according to channels table is on mplexid 81. The 2nd recording is on channel 1103 which is also on mplexid 81
[01:28:48] [R]: could be a bug in multirec
[01:30:12] Kwisher: so your card can do 5 recordings at once?
[01:30:48] fbnts: yes, its a quad card. We only have 6 DVB-T multiplexes
[01:31:20] Kwisher: i'm not familiar with DVB
[01:32:04] fbnts: it appears to have correctly scheduled both recordings to use the same physical tuner. It should just start recording the 2nd out of the multiplex stream
[01:32:36] Kwisher: in the card recording settings is it set to 5?
[01:32:45] fbnts: yep
[01:33:05] fbnts: all 4 cards are set to 5
[01:37:44] fbnts: This is another one from last night, where it ended the recording at 21:40 and starts recording another one on a different channel, but on the same multiplex. http://pastebin.com/kwR56xX0
[01:39:14] fbnts: From what I can see, it only seems to be affecting recordings that are on that multiplex. That multiplex is the only one that broadcasts DVB-T2 for the HD Channels in the UK
[01:43:48] fbnts: What I might try doing is changing each of the 4 tuners to only 1 recording so that it forces each recording to use a completely different physical tuner. I don't think there is any occasion when it needs to record more than 4 programs at a time
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[14:29:18] Kwisher: i keep seeing this in my b/e log: Nov 7 09:27:42 garage mythbackend: mythbackend[28663]: E DeleteThread mainserver.cpp:2629 (DeleteFile) MainServer: Delete Error '/media/mythtv2/recordings/2061_20161018020100.ts'#012#011#011#011eno: Permission denied (13)
[14:34:56] sphery: Kwisher: seems that either the user running mythbackend doesn't have permission to delete the file or doesn't have permission on one or more directories
[14:36:09] Kwisher: then how is it recording?
[14:36:32] sphery: ls -ld /media{,/mythtv2{,recordings{,/2061_20161018020100.ts}}}
[14:36:48] Kwisher: root@garage:/home/kevin# ls -la /media/mythtv
[14:36:48] Kwisher: total 28
[14:36:48] Kwisher: drwxr-xr-x 4 mythtv mythtv 36 Oct 21 20:47 .
[14:36:48] Kwisher: drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Oct 27 19:34 ..
[14:36:48] Kwisher: drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 93 Nov 7 08:56 livetv
[14:36:51] Kwisher: drwxr-xr-x 2 mythtv mythtv 20480 Nov 7 08:56 recordings
[14:36:56] sphery: no
[14:36:59] sphery: just the command I gave you
[14:37:09] sphery: it will only get the 3 directories themselves and the file
[14:38:17] Kwisher: maybe it's because i moved files to the other storage drive??
[14:38:40] sphery: if both drives are on the same host, that doesn't matter
[14:38:42] Kwisher: root@garage:/home/kevin# ls -ld /media{,/mythtv2{,recordings{,/2061_20161018020100.ts}}}
[14:38:45] Kwisher: ls: cannot access '/media/mythtv2recordings': No such file or directory
[14:38:48] Kwisher: ls: cannot access '/media/mythtv2recordings/2061_20161018020100.ts': No such file or directory
[14:38:51] Kwisher: drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Oct 27 19:34 /media
[14:38:53] Kwisher: drwxr-xr-x 3 mythtv mythtv 23 Oct 21 13:38 /media/mythtv2
[14:39:18] sphery: oops, missed a / ... -> ls -ld /media{,/mythtv2{,/recordings{,/2061_20161018020100.ts}}}
[14:39:49] Kwisher: root@garage:/home/kevin# ls -ld /media/mythtv2/recordings/2061_20161018020100.ts
[14:39:52] Kwisher: -rw-r--r-- 1 kevin kevin 4838919216 Oct 17 23:00 /media/mythtv2/recordings/2061_20161018020100.ts
[14:40:05] sphery: ok
[14:40:07] sphery: so you're right
[14:40:12] sphery: in that it's because you moved it
[14:40:20] sphery: because you moved it as you
[14:40:28] Kwisher: ahh, yes
[14:40:42] sphery: so you need to sudo chown mythtv:mythtv /media/mythtv2/recordings/2061_20161018020100.ts
[14:41:07] sphery: and, really, you should check all files in /media/mythtv2/recordings
[14:41:17] ** Kwisher slaps his forehead :( **
[14:42:04] Kwisher: thx
[14:42:28] sphery: sometimes having someone to talk it through with helps you to figure it out
[14:42:38] sphery: :)
[14:43:39] Kwisher: yep
[14:44:18] Kwisher: i had the b/e storage priority wrong and one folder filled up to 100%
[14:44:47] sphery: ah
[14:44:55] Kwisher: same drive as livetv folder and it locked up
[14:45:05] sphery: yeah, reshuffling the files to spread out the usage is a good idea
[14:45:16] sphery: I've forgotten to change ownership after doing similar before, too
[14:45:26] Kwisher: it was set to disk io
[14:47:06] Kwisher: so in the future use: sudo -u mythtv "command" ??
[14:48:46] SteveGoodey: sphery: Getting a bit of spare time for mythtv stuff?
[14:51:29] sphery: SteveGoodey: not really, but trying not to fall too out of touch with it
[14:52:06] Kwisher: sphery: so in the future use: sudo -u mythtv "command" ??
[14:54:17] sphery: Kwisher: could do that, if the command is simple enough (where pipelines, etc, don't get in the way)
[14:55:04] SteveGoodey: sphery: Shame the Mythbuntu boys had to call it a day. I found it an excellent solution for my mythtv needs. Out of interest do you have a distro you recommend for a minimum clean mythtv install?
[14:55:09] sphery: or just remember to change ownership back
[14:56:56] sphery: SteveGoodey: I haven't read a lot on the mythbuntu thing, but wasn't it mainly that they just dropped the full distro but the repos are still good
[14:57:16] sphery: so their recommendation is to install *buntu and then just install mythtv on top?
[14:57:38] sphery: as far as recommended distro, I don't have one--I don't know much about any of the distros
[14:57:59] SteveGoodey: OK thanks.
[14:58:31] sphery: but LinHES might be a good "similar to mythbuntu" type distro
[14:58:47] sphery: though it may require some time to get familiar with the Arch way for it
[15:05:30] Kwisher: SteveGoodey: i use xubuntu and add the mythbuntu ppa
[15:06:23] Kwisher: is mythdora and linhes still active?
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[15:07:09] SteveGoodey: mythdora I believe is long gone. I remember trying linhes when it was known as knoppmyth.
[15:08:24] madder_enz: Anyone here have suggestion for restoring a HDHR that's stuck in a reboot cycle?
[15:08:26] SteveGoodey: Kwisher: xubuntu is now the suggestion from the mythbuntu guys. Works ok for you?
[15:09:34] Kwisher: yes, has for years
[15:09:47] Kwisher: i even use Mint on my main f/e
[15:24:01] jams__: for reference linhes is still active, but just enough to keep the myth packages somewhat recent.
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