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Tuesday, June 14th, 2016, 00:46 UTC
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[01:05:34] Bray90820: can someone help me I seem to be having a problem with mythtv backend I first noticed the issue when I tried to run the KODI front-end and it couldn't connect so than I tried entering mythbackend in the terminal and got the following errors
[01:05:35] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/HAugjLqR
[01:18:09] Hydr0p0nX: Bray90820 – it looks like something else is listening on port 6543 and 6544
[01:19:03] Bray90820: As of right now everything records fine on my backend just can't get anything working remotely
[01:19:16] Bray90820: So what could be listening on 6543 and 6544
[01:19:35] Hydr0p0nX: run sudo netstat -anp |grep 654
[01:22:07] Hydr0p0nX: also, what os/distro/version are you using ?
[01:22:37] Bray90820: Ubuntu 16.04
[01:22:38] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/F3hTQC6s
[01:23:06] Bray90820: It looks to be if mythbackend is running
[01:23:12] Hydr0p0nX: what ip/port are you trying to connect to in kodi ?
[01:28:49] Bray90820: Hydr0p0nX: you are connected to my my backend in some way are you?
[01:29:04] Bray90820: erm... *You Arnt are you
[01:29:35] Hydr0p0nX: no, I have my own
[01:29:52] Hydr0p0nX: and haven't moved to 0.28 yet
[01:31:21] Hydr0p0nX: what do you get if you run: telnet 192.168.1.8 6543 from another machine  ?
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[01:34:29] Bray90820: Just checking if you were connected because my tuner was in use and i didn't know why but anyways...
[01:34:47] Bray90820: Can that command be run from OS X or does it have to be another linux machine?
[01:35:38] Bray90820: Here is what OS X gives me
[01:35:39] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw/1twmAdaN
[01:40:03] Hydr0p0nX: any machine should be fine
[01:40:10] Bray90820: KODI is trying to connect with port 6543 and failing however if I manually stop and start the backend with "sudo service mythtv-backend stop/start" then KODI connects
[01:40:14] Hydr0p0nX: ok
[01:40:21] Hydr0p0nX: really ?
[01:40:44] Bray90820: What are you asking really about?
[01:40:50] Hydr0p0nX: the kodi thing ....
[01:41:01] Hydr0p0nX: should either always connect or never connect
[01:41:02] Bray90820: Need proof :P
[01:41:13] Hydr0p0nX: I'd like to see the logs in both cases
[01:41:41] Bray90820: Sorry what cases?
[01:41:55] Bray90820: Kody logs after it connects and kodi log after it fails to connect?
[01:42:16] Hydr0p0nX: myth backend logs when kodi fails and after it succeeds
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[01:44:44] Bray90820: So you want mythbackend.log?
[01:45:36] Hydr0p0nX: if it's not to large
[01:46:03] Bray90820: It's huge but I'll slim it down
[01:46:15] Bray90820: I'll give you just todays logs
[01:46:29] Hydr0p0nX: just the last 30 minutes be more than enough
[01:54:47] Bray90820: Hydr0p0nX: There is a lot of crap in here
[01:54:47] Bray90820: http://pastebin.com/raw/7FYTfLHb
[01:55:31] Bray90820: Most of it is just leftover data from file I already deleted tho
[02:06:26] Bray90820: Hydr0p0nX: Any update?
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[02:12:24] Hydr0p0nX: looks like you may have the backend starting before the physical network is up
[02:12:33] Hydr0p0nX: so you only have localhost to bind to
[02:12:45] Bray90820: How did that happen?
[02:12:57] Bray90820: Because it was working before
[02:14:08] Hydr0p0nX: before when ?
[02:16:15] Bray90820: I can't remember the actual dates but early may I believe
[02:16:24] Bray90820: It was after I installed 16.04
[02:22:47] Bray90820: Hydr0p0nX: So what should I do at this point?
[02:23:20] Hydr0p0nX: there's a setting to wait for network, but I'm not sure where it's at in 16.04
[02:23:46] Bray90820: A setting in ubuntu or a setting in mythtv?
[02:24:35] Hydr0p0nX: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Systemd_mythbacke . . . _initialized
[02:24:40] Hydr0p0nX: that may be what you need
[02:28:46] Bray90820: This is a bit beyond my knoldge of ubuntu and mythtv
[02:29:01] Bray90820: knowledge
[02:39:45] Bray90820: Hydr0p0nX: So any info you can give me on where to go from here?
[02:42:55] Hydr0p0nX: I don't have 0.28 or ubuntu 16.04 so don't have anything to reference, I suspect you'd need to edit /etc/systemd/system/mythbackend.service and add a wants=pingnetwork.service and After=pingnetwork.service to the section labeled [Unit]
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[03:29:52] Bray90820: Hydr0p0nX: Thanks anyways
[03:30:28] Bray90820: Can anyone else help me Delay starting the backend until network has initializedin 0.26 and ubuntu 16.04?
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[05:22:22] k-man: Hydr0p0nX, is there an openmax setting for the frontend?
[05:22:32] k-man: Hydr0p0nX, i mean for the frontend UI
[05:22:35] k-man: ?
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[19:36:16] Bray90820: Can someone help me Delay starting the backend until network has initialized in ubuntu 16.04
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[20:14:19] bill6502: Bray90820: see this for one solution: https://forum.mythtv.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&a . . . p=7375#p7373
[20:14:50] bill6502: afk
[20:15:18] Bray90820: bill6502: it turned out that the commands were working fine so there was no reason to add anything to the sudoers file
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[22:29:59] Bray90820: bill6502: Are you around?
[22:30:28] Bray90820: Hydr0p0nX: Are you also around
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[22:42:24] Bray90820: bill6502: http://pastebin.com/raw/qQ4QzFTE
[22:43:09] Bray90820: Hydr0p0nX: Why did you think the backend was starting before the network?
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[23:30:44] bill6502: Bray90820: fixed the post I cited, it's: sudo systemctl daemon-reload
[23:31:33] Bray90820: bill6502: /lib/systemd/system/mythtv-backend.service is the file that should be edited?
[23:32:24] Bray90820: And should the line be put under unit service or install?
[23:33:56] bill6502: Bray90820: No, copy it like the instructions say. Otherwise, if a new official version is released, your edit would be removed.
[23:34:21] Bray90820: yes I copied it but should I edit the original or the new one created?
[23:34:46] bill6502: put it in the [Service] section, e.g. above the ExecStart
[23:35:00] Bray90820: I am thinking I should edit the one found in "/etc/systemd/system"
[23:35:02] bill6502: only edit the one in /etc
[23:35:11] Bray90820: Ok thanks
[23:40:06] Bray90820: Hallelujah it now works
[23:40:26] Hydr0p0nX: Bray90820 – bill6502 is far more knowledgable than I , I just google and guess
[23:40:54] Bray90820: bill6502: Why did you think I had to edit the sudoers file?
[23:41:00] bill6502: \o/
[23:41:29] Hydr0p0nX: But, to answer the question about why I thought it was start before network, it's because it was only binding on localhost then restart had it binding on all addresses
[23:41:52] Bray90820: Hydr0p0nX: Thanks
[23:41:54] bill6502: I recall you were using killall to stop the BE rather than systemctl.
[23:42:31] bill6502: the 'old' service xxx start commands also work with systemctl *I think*, but I never use them
[23:43:39] Bray90820: bill6502: It now works with KODi but I am still having another issue
[23:43:41] bill6502: just like service xxx start worked with Upstart, but it just ended up executing the start xxx command
[23:43:51] Bray90820: And I think it stems to the sudoers file
[23:44:23] Bray90820: You know how when you enter the backend it tells you to stop the backend and continue?
[23:44:33] bill6502: yes
[23:45:15] Bray90820: I stop the backend and continue then exit the backend it askes if I want to start the backend I say no then when I enter the backend again it says it's still running
[23:46:47] Bray90820: "killall mythbackend" is still listed in the backend
[23:47:10] Bray90820: And no I don't have any mythtv commands in my sudoers file at the moment
[23:49:09] arescorpio (arescorpio!~arescorpi@190.190.244.171) has joined #mythtv-users
[23:49:12] bill6502: to allow mythtv-setup to stop the backend, the proper command must be entered in mythtv-setup. I prefer sudo systemctl stop mythtv-backend but sudo service mythtv-backend stop probably works
[23:49:43] Bray90820: Why would killall have been put in there if it doesn't work?
[23:49:53] bill6502: in either case, the command must be in sudoers.d/mythtv so that there won't be a prompt for a password
[23:50:26] bill6502: re killall, I have no idea why it's there. is that what mythbuntu installs?
[23:50:57] Bray90820: I am currently running stock ubuntu
[23:51:21] Bray90820: I actually need to get going right now I will be back in about 45 minutes to an hour if you will be around?
[23:52:43] bill6502: killall seems wrong to me. the backend is started by systemd, so I use systemctl to start/stop it
[23:53:02] bill6502: I'll be in/out during the evening
[23:53:06] Bray90820: I did restore from a mythbuntu 14.04 backup
[23:53:21] Bray90820: See you later then and thanks for your help :)

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