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Thursday, May 19th, 2016, 00:00 UTC
[00:00:23] justinh: where the heck can xmltv be downloaded from? need a nightly snapshot
[00:00:43] justinh: ahh found it
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[00:03:08] justinh: building my own xmltv again. just like the old days.
[00:06:37] justinh: gah, still not got the SD JSON xmltv grabber]#
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[00:14:08] justinh: finally!
[00:20:41] justinh: meh. this is all still too much like work. OTA guide info from now on.
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[00:26:31] justinh: did a test grab, but a lot of the descriptions are as generic as the over the air ones
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[00:38:52] SteveGoodey: justinh: moan, moan, moan. What else would you do with your time?
[00:39:12] justinh: I have plenty of other things to be doing
[00:40:02] justinh: life is too short to be correlating grabber channel IDs to lineups & all that stuff
[00:40:16] justinh: even more so when it's not even for me lol
[00:40:25] SteveGoodey: Like watching tv? Did you ever get that dvb-t2 usb dongle working?
[00:40:33] justinh: nope
[00:40:43] SteveGoodey: haha
[00:41:03] justinh: well I DID.. but it only worked right on my laptop
[00:41:45] justinh: and then the DVB guys changed their API which broke mythtv scanning etc. Apparently auto switching standards is a terrible thing to do
[00:42:00] justinh: I dunno if that ever got sorted out
[00:42:15] justinh: it's 2016 now. I don't wanna be recording *anything*
[00:42:48] justinh: I want a small server for my files, and a nice cheap lightweight user friendly box to plug into the telly :)
[00:43:19] justinh: the youview box almost does what we need in terms of playback.. except it only does *online* stuff
[00:43:57] justinh: and boxes that do netflix etc.. can they play off a network share & do nice metadata presentation? Only if they're androidy
[00:44:44] justinh: then people say yeah just use Kodi. Great, except you can't play LEGIT UK TV from online with it
[00:44:57] SteveGoodey: Remember when tv was a set with an aerial and a mains lead.
[00:45:04] justinh: I miss those days
[00:45:31] justinh: I remember when a TV could take a hit with a small plastic toy & not come off worse too
[00:45:48] SteveGoodey: Ha. And changing valves.
[00:46:11] justinh: and when you didn't have to dig channels ina wall to hide cables to a TV
[00:46:37] justinh: valves were a bit before my time, unless you mean the big front facing one ;)
[00:47:09] justinh: had to buy a new TV last weekend. daughter threw a plastic tiger in the air. bounced off the ceiling & hit the screen.
[00:47:27] SteveGoodey: 405 lines, now your talking.
[00:47:31] justinh: naturally the timing couldn't have been worse, so it had to be a cheap TV. it's awful
[00:47:41] justinh: good picture til anything moves.
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[00:48:12] justinh: the crap old hitachi that came before it must've had a killer deblocking filter on all the time lol
[00:48:55] justinh: anyway, I just don't see the point *paying* for EPG data when it's as generic as what's broadcast over the air :)
[00:49:18] justinh: give it a year & that'll probably be discontinued too
[00:49:56] SteveGoodey: Yeah that's a good point.
[00:50:18] justinh: maybe not a bad thing. linear TV is starting to lose
[00:51:19] justinh: pretty soon iplayer is gonna be locked down to just new devices using the right API
[00:51:30] justinh: with licence fee payer details inside
[00:51:49] justinh: you can't use any of the other channels on demand stuff on any open platform
[00:52:50] justinh: and there still isn't a common UI for everything. Might as well just give up
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[00:53:41] justinh: "believe in better" sky TV say.. heh. I DO.. been using it for years but it's getting harder to maintain
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[00:54:02] SteveGoodey: Where's the fun in that. What else would you do at 2 o'clock in the morning?
[00:54:29] justinh: working on one of my websites
[00:54:52] SteveGoodey: sky likes to shove that phrase down your throat.
[00:55:06] justinh: so maybe one day I can make enough money that I don't have to care how much Sky costs
[00:55:47] justinh: Sky aren't actually saying they ARE better with that phrase though lol
[00:56:29] justinh: the old telly used to annoy me. Inspire the next... WTH?!
[00:58:11] justinh: I wonder if I'm ever likely to find a box that'll do all UK online stuff, and netflix or whatever.. and be able to play network content.. and not have an apple logo on it
[00:58:26] justinh: with the added proviso that app switching is also not needed
[00:59:25] justinh: now there's a thing
[00:59:35] justinh: do netflix carry UK TV stuff too?
[01:01:11] justinh: looks like no, generally. Booo
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[03:29:19] maarhart: Is it possible to delete everything in the database related to radio streams? I cannot add new ones and I think it is a database problem
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[10:58:03] k-man: i'm trying to debug the debian mythweb postinst script
[10:58:18] k-man: any idea how i can get dash to print the line number when an error occurs?
[11:05:32] k-man: ah, i worked it out
[11:05:36] k-man: the bug
[11:06:10] k-man: the sed -e "s/..... $mythtv_password
[11:06:34] k-man: the sed -e "s/..... $mythtv_password\"/g is a problem, if the password contains a slash, it fails
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[11:26:20] k-man: not quite sure of the solution
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[11:26:35] k-man: change the regex to use an alternative character
[11:26:54] k-man: or pass the string through a regex first to escape the characters
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[11:48:18] k-man: where does one report bugs for the packaging?
[11:49:16] k-man: nm, found it
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[11:58:55] k-man: https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12780#ticket
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[12:11:36] k-man: i uploaded a patch for it
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[17:42:30] dekarl: k-man: I can take a look at the patch. it appears to be reversed
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[18:01:43] tgm4883: yea that patch looks backwards
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[19:56:16] justinh: hmm is it just me or has mythweb's protocol not increased with mythtv's ? Seeing a warning about protocol version
[19:57:14] dekarl: did you update both? sometimes mythweb is stuck on an older version when the intention is to update everything
[19:57:39] dekarl: also the procotol version should not change in fixes/0.28
[19:58:19] justinh: I've got 0.28
[20:01:23] justinh: what? Bindings version is old.
[20:02:26] justinh: why doesn't mythweb depend on php-mythtv? hey ho
[20:02:44] justinh: updating php-mythtv did the job.
[20:05:12] dekarl: ubuntu?
[20:09:37] justinh: yup
[20:10:58] dekarl: tgm4883: -^
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[20:14:54] tgm4883: mythweb does depend on php-mythtv
[20:15:23] tgm4883: https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/blob/fixe . . . trol.in#L470
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[20:20:41] justinh: so how come it didn't get upgraded when I updated mythweb?
[20:22:01] justinh: it was only by listing /usr/share/mythtv/bindings I noticed the php bindings had a very old modified date
[20:22:37] justinh: then when I did sudo apt-get install php-mythtv it upgraded the bindings :)
[20:23:35] justinh: trust me to find a hole somewhere
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[20:34:26] tgm4883: justinh: when you did that, did it install new packages at all?
[20:34:38] tgm4883: Did you just upgrade from 0.27 to 0.28?
[20:48:20] justinh: it updated mythtv, mythtv-common etc..
[20:48:27] justinh: mythweb was about all it didn't update
[20:48:39] justinh: which I only realised about tonight
[20:48:53] justinh: so then I did apt-get install mythweb, which did actually update to 0.28
[20:49:09] justinh: but I didn't get the bindings
[20:51:44] justinh: I can pastebin my apt history if it'll help
[20:52:40] justinh: hmm looks like some entries are missing
[20:53:13] justinh: anyway, I did apt-get update, then apt-get install mythtv – which as far as I could tell got everything but overlooked mythweb
[20:58:51] tgm4883: justinh: that sounds like an issue with apt maybe. Not sure
[20:59:51] justinh: maybe. simple fix. no harm done :)
[21:00:11] justinh: this system is probably well out of date anyway
[21:03:12] justinh: heh only 2 years old
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[23:36:09] k-man: dekarl, oh... i'll update it tonight
[23:36:18] k-man: dekarl, sorry, not very experienced at making patches
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