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| [00:45:25] | kusznir: | Hi all: I'm a bit confused by what I'm finding online about hardware offload decompression/rendering (eg, video card playing MPEG/H.264 content). |
| [00:46:27] | kusznir: | I have been using vdpau successfully with an nvidia graphics card on my ion ITX mobo. However, that system is failing (specifically the nvidia chip :( ), and it doesn't appear any new ITX mobos are bieng made with nvidia graphics chips; most are Intel graphics. |
| [00:47:17] | kusznir: | Intel graphics doesn't appear to support vdpau, but support their own variety. Some documents suggest myth does not support it, others suggest it does. Will MythFrontend use hardware rendering of mpeg with a modern Intel graphics chipset? |
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| [05:40:10] | dekarl: | kusznir: as far as i remember our frontend supports the hardware accelerated decoding on intel chips for some time, but not the full potential of the deinterlacer of newer chips |
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| [12:04:24] | k-man: | dekarl, so i left the findorphans running over night and it cleaned up the whole mess nicely |
| [12:04:43] | k-man: | and now the frontend is very snappy. it was just balking with all those missing and 0 size files |
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| [15:25:02] | dekarl: | glad it worked :) |
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| [20:51:23] | justinh: | hmmm. finger hovers over SD subscription button... |
| [20:52:28] | justinh: | hmmm. except UK isn't mentioned on the SD site as supported. Yet on the users ML.. |
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| [20:56:08] | justinh: | is anybody here using schedulesdirect in the UK? |
| [21:00:50] | justinh: | yeah UK isn't mentioned. Great Britain is though. Heh. |
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| [21:46:45] | qu: | I'm trying to run the MythTV daemon in a virtual machine, but there is no capture card (as PCO passthrough doesn't work in KVM), so Myth won't start. |
| [21:47:18] | qu: | Why is a capture card mandatory for the daemon to start. |
| [21:47:30] | qu: | What if I only want it for playback? |
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| [22:12:55] | qu: | So no one's here. |
| [22:15:17] | jams: | qu it's an odd design thats for sure. But to get around it you can define a demo file tuner that points to some empty file |
| [22:15:25] | jams: | or some mpeg file doesn't really matter |
| [22:15:42] | jams: | just define it and that will be enough to get around the capture card check |
| [22:16:14] | qu: | jams: I have, but now it's upset that the demo is not connected to a source. But I'm no longer subbed to SD. |
| [22:17:00] | justinh: | playback in a VM? That's different |
| [22:17:02] | jams: | there is a no grabber option |
| [22:17:12] | jams: | configure that and assign it to the dummy tuner |
| [22:17:14] | justinh: | oh the backend in a VM. |
| [22:17:38] | justinh: | still not a supported use case as far as I know, though there was talk of allowing tunerless backends |
| [22:17:58] | qu: | Maybe I can't use Myth anymore. |
| [22:18:15] | qu: | (after 10 years) |
| [22:18:24] | justinh: | dunno if this is still relevant: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Dummy_Tuner |
| [22:19:01] | justinh: | according to that wiki page there's now a 'demo tuner' option |
| [22:19:13] | qu: | Looks like it is. I'll try it. |
| [22:23:01] | justinh: | you're welcome |
| [22:25:37] | justinh: | agghhhh what? this version of mythtv still has the old SD stuff in it |
| [22:27:31] | qu: | Not my favorite "Failed to scan SG video hosts." |
| [22:28:08] | justinh: | sigh. time to do yet another upgrade of something that wasn't broken |
| [22:29:04] | qu: | All my movies are gone. |
| [22:29:28] | justinh: | I still want to cut the antenna cable though. I'm tired of needing a computer for the wife & kids to watch telly |
| [22:31:45] | justinh: | gah. curse that darn ubuntu script which restarts the frontend |
| [22:32:28] | qu: | I'm getting too old to make this work. |
| [22:33:00] | justinh: | how do you mean 'gone' ? |
| [22:33:32] | qu: | I did a Menu|scan, and *POP* all my movies went away. |
| [22:33:39] | justinh: | if you're setting up a backend in a VM, they won't have 'gone' anywhere |
| [22:33:43] | qu: | And "Failed to scan" |
| [22:34:02] | qu: | It did before. I have a special setup. |
| [22:34:06] | justinh: | well if it's in a VM, how is it pointed at where the movies are stored? |
| [22:34:28] | qu: | Reverse SSH tunnel mount. Looks local. |
| [22:34:39] | justinh: | and if it's in a VM, it should look like a standalone backend |
| [22:34:46] | justinh: | thus, new to you... thus.. safe to play with |
| [22:34:47] | qu: | I still have about 8 tv shows, but no movies. |
| [22:35:21] | justinh: | so the VM backend is running on the same machine as your usual backend? |
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| [22:35:40] | qu: | The VM backend is the only one. |
| [22:35:55] | qu: | And I watch on that VM. |
| [22:36:04] | justinh: | gah. errors installing mythtv-backend. great |
| [22:36:10] | bill6502: | qu: does the vm have the same hostname as before |
| [22:36:21] | qu: | But I've recently chnged hostnames, this the SG error. |
| [22:36:45] | qu: | bill6502: No, different VM, so different hostname. |
| [22:36:57] | bill6502: | you understand that the hostname is used as a 'profile' name in MythTV? |
| [22:37:23] | qu: | I've fixed it in config.xml. And deleted all the profiles. |
| [22:37:27] | justinh: | and for settings storage |
| [22:37:33] | qu: | Default wouldn't delete though. |
| [22:39:18] | qu: | mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg -e "SELECT * FROM storagegroup WHERE hostname LIKE '%hydra%';" |
| [22:39:18] | qu: | ... shows nothing. |
| [22:39:43] | qu: | It's fucking perverse. |
| [22:40:46] | qu: | All my groups have the new hostname. |
| [22:40:58] | justinh: | hmm.. how is this SD setup supposed to work in mythtv-setup then? I've selected schedulesdirect (internal).. and apparently I'm supposed to be able to pick a lineup |
| [22:41:28] | justinh: | qu: only perverse because you've kinda got a kinky use case there |
| [22:41:33] | qu: | You create a lineup in SD then choose it in Myth. |
| [22:41:47] | justinh: | apparently not if you're using the JSON stuff |
| [22:41:59] | qu: | Or, maybe I'm too old to fix this now. |
| [22:42:02] | justinh: | so what.. I need an external grabber now? |
| [22:42:33] | qu: | No. 1. Set up a lineup in SD with your channels and name it. |
| [22:42:38] | justinh: | I can't |
| [22:42:50] | qu: | You need a login |
| [22:42:53] | justinh: | because only NA lineups are supported in the non JSON way |
| [22:43:18] | qu: | Can you log into SD? |
| [22:43:23] | justinh: | I'm logged in |
| [22:43:37] | qu: | Create you a lineup and name it. |
| [22:43:40] | justinh: | and it says, where I go to add a lineup, my client should be able to let me configure one |
| [22:43:59] | justinh: | because I'm not in the USA or canada I need to use the new JSON stuff |
| [22:44:11] | qu: | I've been internet only for a year so I've forgotten the details. |
| [22:44:42] | justinh: | "Schedules Direct offers two data services. With the new SD-JSON service, lineups are managed within the application. The legacy SD-DD (XML) service (still used by most applications) requires you add a lineup below." |
| [22:45:16] | qu: | Well Myth doesn't do that, so looks like you're out too. |
| [22:46:05] | justinh: | why not? I'd have thought if ANY app supported this stuff natively it'd be mythtv |
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| [22:47:08] | qu: | Hey man, Idk. I can't even fix my own shit. |
| [22:47:48] | justinh: | Oh for crying out loud! "here is a Schedules Direct grabber available which uses an alternate JSON feed. This grabber is not supported by the MythTV team. It inserts data directly into the MythTV database, bypassing MythTV's ability to sanity check, correct and act upon information at a single point of insertion. We will be unable to assist users who run this grabber if they encounter bugs or broken features as a result." |
| [22:48:13] | justinh: | right that's it then. Back to over the air guide data |
| [22:48:58] | justinh: | if our crappy youview box only did network video playback of stuff I own |
| [22:49:54] | justinh: | I wouldn't even care I hardly even watch TV myself these days |
| [22:50:11] | Shadow__X: | is the issue only for non us schedules direct? |
| [22:50:23] | justinh: | Shadow__X: as far as I know yes |
| [22:50:27] | qu: | I watch only downloads now. |
| [22:51:05] | justinh: | breaking bad was the last long form series I watched. Even then I quit about S3 |
| [22:51:20] | Shadow__X: | gotcha |
| [22:52:00] | justinh: | how can MythTV not have support for the new SD delivery method though? That's like... ugh |
| [22:52:44] | justinh: | well I guess I know why.. cos nobody's written it for whatever reasons. And whatever those reasons are, it's pretty sad |
| [22:55:44] | justinh: | and those money grabbing gits at Altas can go screw themselves. But then, who didn't see this coming? |
| [22:57:33] | justinh: | ach well. With SD I'd no doubt have ended up with a horrendous duplicate channels situation or at least a nightmare of lining up IDs to channels |
| [22:57:49] | justinh: | as can happen when on air data doesn't align with EPG data |
| [22:58:40] | justinh: | give myth its dues.. I've been running it since.. wooo... 1998 I think. Pretty much non-stop, maybe lost a couple of recordings over the years |
| [23:00:41] | justinh: | hang on.. 18 years? No way! |
| [23:01:42] | justinh: | crap. mythtvtalk.com expired. I was gonna date my first post there to confirm how long I've been running this |
| [23:03:13] | Shadow__X: | buy it!!!! |
| [23:03:51] | justinh: | lol no |
| [23:04:22] | justinh: | meh. Think it's only been 12 years. 12 years though! |
| [23:04:43] | justinh: | I don't think I've used ANY software as long as that in my entire life |
| [23:05:58] | qu: | What happened to xbmc? |
| [23:06:23] | justinh: | it became KODI |
| [23:06:35] | qu: | Any good? |
| [23:06:47] | justinh: | not for me no |
| [23:07:06] | qu: | I have no choice. |
| [23:07:16] | justinh: | so it has smooth scrolling & loads of whizzbang UI features.. except... meh |
| [23:07:51] | qu: | I can't decrypt fucking Myth anymore. |
| [23:09:12] | justinh: | if all you wanna do is watch videos, then maybe mythtv isn't for you anyway |
| [23:09:36] | qu: | Apparently. |
| [23:10:08] | justinh: | it hasn't been for a very long time |
| [23:10:20] | justinh: | hence its name :) |
| [23:11:41] | justinh: | whereas another program.. what with all the dodgy Android boxes on sale using it these days.. |
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| [23:14:40] | Shadow__X: | yeah, if you don't plan to record, you just want to watch videos mythtv isn't a great fit |
| [23:14:52] | Shadow__X: | you can look at emby,kodi,plex,etc in no particular order |
| [23:16:03] | justinh: | emby? |
| [23:16:33] | justinh: | ah placeshifting. yawn |
| [23:16:46] | Shadow__X: | yeah emby is like plex |
| [23:17:07] | justinh: | I figure I'm getting pretty old too now |
| [23:17:19] | justinh: | went out for a meal last night in a part of town I'd not seen for 15 years |
| [23:17:40] | justinh: | saw a cafe, where if you go & sit down you'll be surrounded by cats |
| [23:18:07] | justinh: | it's next door to another cafe, where you can sit down & listen to music. ON VINYK |
| [23:18:12] | justinh: | *VINYL |
| [23:18:24] | justinh: | presumably, whilst twiddling your man-bun |
| [23:18:34] | justinh: | we live in strange times |
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| [23:52:59] | bill6502: | qu: was mysql -umythtv -p mythconverg -e "SELECT * FROM storagegroup WHERE hostname LIKE '%hydra%';" from the DB on the VM that was reloaded from the one original |
| [23:53:25] | bill6502: | assuming hydra was the original hostname |
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