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Monday, March 21st, 2016, 00:44 UTC
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[03:04:58] Hydr0p0nX: camjac251 – are you running 14.04.2 ?
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[03:09:18] DHR_: I have an HD PVR. I want to view "live TV" (actually the STB's programming screens) on my Myth backend. Watching through mythtv frontend is very laggy. I'd just use mplayer to get around this but apparently this could cause a subsequent recording to fail. How can I reduce the lag for this narrow purpose?
[03:11:17] DHR_: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/HD-PVR#Caveats warns against using mplayer
[03:12:00] DHR_: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frequently_Asked_ . . . y_changes.3F explains the lag
[03:12:23] DHR_: but I certainly don't wish to record or replay this particular live tv.
[03:21:48] Hydr0p0nX: Everything is a recording in myth, including livetv
[03:23:17] camjac251: yes Hydr0p0nX
[03:31:46] DHR_: I understand. But I want to bypass that, perhaps by using another program like mplayer.
[03:32:05] DHR_: Or cut down the latency.
[03:32:45] DHR_: apparently mplayer etc. screws up the backend, even if the backend isn't currently using the HD PVR.
[03:33:45] DHR_: Clearly a reboot would get the backend working again. Anything less drastic?
[03:39:14] camjac251: mythtv wont offer what you're looking for
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[03:40:34] camjac251: hello
[03:41:40] camjac251: mythtv lags because it starts recording as soon as you tune to the channel, because it allows you to hit the record button 10 minutes into watching and still have that 10 minutes from before in the final recording
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[03:56:50] DHR_: I like what myth does much of the time. It's not convenient behaviour some of the time.
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[04:23:41] Lexridge: I just set up a new tuner card. (HVR2255) and the guide data is not filling in. I have gone into the channel editor and inserted the correct XMLIDs, but still nothing. What else should I be looking at?
[04:23:57] Lexridge: I am using SchedulesDirect btw.
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[04:59:30] Lexridge: Is it possible to have two video sources applied to a single tuner? In other words, I want to use an RF combiner to combine my antenna and the cable together. Then I would need to do both a scan for QAM and for Broadcast. will that work?
[05:05:06] Shadow__X: Lexridge: afaik no
[05:05:26] Shadow__X: and if your guide isn't working make sure you don't have eit enabled for those video source
[05:05:51] Lexridge: Shadow__X: that a real shame. Imagine the flexibility that would allow. Oh well. I have four tuners now. I can make due.
[05:06:08] Shadow__X: its jamming in 2 video signals on the same cable
[05:06:23] Lexridge: yes, but they are on different frequencies.
[05:06:33] Shadow__X: i can't connect 2 monitors from the same hdmi
[05:06:39] Lexridge: they would not be "stepping" on each other.
[05:06:57] Shadow__X: Lexridge: i don't see it working, but if you think it will. this internet stranger can't stop you
[05:07:07] Lexridge: That is a completely different thing with HDMI cables of course.
[05:07:09] Shadow__X: who knows maybe it will
[05:08:12] Lexridge: I think the concept is sound. I just don't know if MythTV allows multiple video sources per card. I would need to add a Broadcast and a Cable to a single tuner.
[05:08:34] Lexridge: The combiner works on my TV.
[05:08:37] Shadow__X: you would have to scan multiple times
[05:08:44] Shadow__X: if it works on your tv, then i guess it works
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[05:09:08] Shadow__X: so scan multiple times on your tunner, for broadcast and cable. does the backend let you do that?
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[05:09:46] Lexridge: it might. I am not sure. I will try it now.
[05:10:39] Lexridge: If it works, it could essentially give me 8 tuners.
[05:10:55] Lexridge: not that I would ever use that many lol
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[05:11:18] Shadow__X: how would it give you 2 tuners?
[05:11:23] Shadow__X: 8*
[05:12:04] Shadow__X: each tuner can tune 1 freq at a time, and from there other channels from within the same multiplex
[05:12:18] Lexridge: Well, it would have ATSC Broadcast and QAM both on a single tuner.
[05:12:18] Shadow__X: it won't just let you tune 2 different freqs on 1 tuner
[05:12:53] Shadow__X: also, your qam doesn't have all the channels your atsc broadcast has?
[05:13:12] Lexridge: Well, that is true, but the way I have it now. I have cable into one HVR2255 and antenna into one 1600 and cable into another 1600
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[05:13:38] Lexridge: Yes, the cable does have them, but they are reduced in bitrate as compared to off-air.
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[05:15:51] Lexridge: I just started using Kodi frontends running on Raspberry Pi 2s. They are awesome with a myth backend!
[05:16:16] Lexridge: I have 4 of them already. Nice and cheap and very functional.
[05:17:29] Shadow__X: while they might work, just keep in mind the kodi frontend isn't developed by mythtv devs
[05:18:12] Lexridge: Of course it is not. And there are a few quirky things about it, but it does work very well for $35 hardware.
[05:18:39] Lexridge: and with 4 second boot times, gotta love that too
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[05:23:26] Lexridge: It would be very cool if MythFrontend was ported to a quick boot Raspberry Pi 2 :)
[05:23:58] Lexridge: I am honestly surprised nobody has actually done that yet.
[05:24:20] Shadow__X: afaik the issue is with the rpi video decoder
[05:24:25] Shadow__X: you have to bring that over
[05:24:31] Shadow__X: and get mythtv to use it
[05:25:39] Lexridge: oh I see. So that is proprietary ?
[05:25:49] Shadow__X: not sure what it is considered tbh
[05:25:59] Shadow__X: but i know you need it for gpu decoding
[05:26:01] Lexridge: okay
[05:26:10] Shadow__X: kodi has it because devs specifically added it
[05:26:17] Shadow__X: so the same would have to be done for mythtv
[05:26:27] Shadow__X: also i am out for tonight gn, good luck with your scans
[05:27:05] Lexridge: Have a good evening Shadow
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[09:00:01] dekarl1: lexridge: if running cable and antenna over one cable into the tuner works great, then do just that with *one* video source. a video source is defined as the set of channels that a tuner can receive. If thats "cable+antenna" that's ok.
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[15:38:47] bruce_SW_USA: Hello, van somebody help we fix a symbolic link please. The command I used is: ln -s /media/mediacentre/recordings /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/
[15:40:28] bruce_SW_USA: My recordings are showing up in my /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/ folder and there is a shortcut to my storage drive there also. I want the recordings on the storeage drive.
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[15:57:40] jmcentee: you can chage where the storage drive is in mythsetup
[15:59:08] jmcentee: otherwise you probably want to type ln -s /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/ /media/mediacentre/recordings
[15:59:20] jmcentee: ln -s {target-filename} {symbolic-filename}
[15:59:54] jmcentee: ln -s {file that exists} {new link location}
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[16:29:29] bruce_SW_USA: Finally got it working by using storage groups, so easy if you know what to do. Thanks
[16:33:07] bruce_SW_USA: " /var/lib/mythtv/recordings/ /media/mediacentre/recordings" I tried yesterday, gave me 60gig available on a 4TB drive
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[16:54:07] bill6502: bruce_SW_USA: you put the above in as 2 separate Storage Directories in one Storage Group (likely named Default) not both on one line right?
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[22:58:46] toad_: why would the backend take several minutes to respond, causing the frontend to hang when loading the menus and when loading Media Library, and mysql be pegged at 100% cpu for longish periods?
[22:59:06] toad_: this is a really old installation, is it possible that there are some database fields that aren't indexed but should be?
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