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[04:07:27] austeregrim: just installed from multimedia repo for debian... first time setting mythtv up... its not connecting to the database
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[04:36:55] Shadow__X: did it setup the db or did you
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[05:08:36] austeregrim: no it did not set up the db
[05:12:06] austeregrim: now I'm trying to set up a frontend on osx so I can watch something
[05:12:19] austeregrim: and it feels like I'm trying to set up a backend
[05:28:07] austeregrim: god this is so convoluded
[05:31:29] austeregrim: and now it just segfaults after 3 attempts to watch live tv
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[18:47:28] tgm4883: austeregrim: it's a server/client piece of software. You do need a backend
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[22:26:03] austeregrim: yeah but it's not a traditional server client... you have to run a gui interface to configure the server backend... then you have to have a local backend at each front end display?
[22:27:13] austeregrim: maybe I just want to configure a server that scans the channels does the work records and pipes the video, that doesn't have a display...
[22:28:22] austeregrim: and have any computer access that via a front end, or dlna, or whatever other method... I just don't understand the concept behind, a server having a backend server, required to have a front end, a client having a back end just to have a front end.
[22:31:57] tgm4883: austeregrim: you don't have to have the backend on the frontend box
[22:32:30] tgm4883: and while you do have to configure the backend graphically, a web setup backend is in the works
[22:32:47] austeregrim: trying to set up an osx front end it isn't connecting, but sure feels like it's setting up a backend.
[22:33:11] tgm4883: even currently, your backend doesn't need a display, you just have to know how to forward the graphical parts out
[22:33:41] tgm4883: austeregrim: not sure what you mean by "sure feels like it's setting up a backend" but maybe it's just that osx is dumb?
[22:33:56] austeregrim: easy with the os hate
[22:34:00] tgm4883: lol
[22:34:10] austeregrim: it's not osx, it's the precompiled package
[22:34:21] tgm4883: ok, the precompiled package for osx
[22:34:34] austeregrim: the front end wants access to the sql server itself, not go through the backend?
[22:34:53] tgm4883: in any case, still don't know what you mean by setting up a backend on the frontend
[22:35:08] austeregrim: I'm only using my osx as a client to test out the function... I really just want dlna available for my crappy hd homerun
[22:35:20] tgm4883: austeregrim: while I'd agree that shouldn't be necessary, there are many frontend programs that need sql access
[22:35:39] tgm4883: what do you mean you want dlna available?
[22:35:57] austeregrim: my hd homerun is a first model i bought second hand
[22:36:08] tgm4883: ah, and it doesn't have dlna in it?
[22:36:14] austeregrim: nope
[22:36:35] austeregrim: so my friend suggested use mythtv as a server to record, and play live tv.
[22:36:58] austeregrim: mythtv also has dlna capability
[22:37:09] tgm4883: austeregrim: I'm assuming that you've setup the backend somewhere?
[22:37:10] austeregrim: even if it didn't my nas does
[22:37:25] austeregrim: I've got a box that I've set it up on.
[22:37:37] austeregrim: unfortunately myth keeps seg faulting
[22:37:49] austeregrim: it's a debian box
[22:37:59] tgm4883: The backend is segfaulting?
[22:38:08] austeregrim: I'm almost at the point, where I want to just start over and build it from scratch... yeah the backend is seg faulting
[22:38:18] tgm4883: what version?
[22:38:35] austeregrim: hang on, I got to boot up that machine
[22:39:04] austeregrim: it's whatever is on the multimedia repo for debian.
[22:39:43] tgm4883: I don't know much about those packages. enyc might be able to chime in
[22:39:53] ** tgm4883 prefers a mythbuntu setup **
[22:40:00] austeregrim: 0.27
[22:40:16] tgm4883: austeregrim: what's the full version? There have been lots of updates to 0.27
[22:40:18] austeregrim: it says fixes/0.27 or something
[22:40:56] austeregrim: thats all it says that I can see.
[22:41:09] austeregrim: without looking at the deb package itself
[22:42:23] austeregrim: ad97d24?
[22:42:44] austeregrim: I dont know where to look for the version other than the on screen log it spews
[22:43:35] tgm4883: austeregrim: I'm not sure how debian does their packages. What is the output of "dpkg -l | grep mythtv-backend"
[22:43:41] tgm4883: i'm just looking for a date
[22:44:31] austeregrim: 0.27.5 dmo2?
[22:46:07] austeregrim: I've been considering just getting mythbuntu
[22:46:15] austeregrim: just to not dick around with it anymore
[22:46:46] tgm4883: well I like it, although I can't confirm that it would resolve any issues you are having
[22:46:56] tgm4883: also, full disclosure
[22:47:02] tgm4883: <-- mythbuntu dev
[22:49:36] austeregrim: I'm not doing anything else on this box anyway, so I don't have a problem throwing myhtbuntu on it... just thought I could use the debian install I've already built.
[22:51:05] tgm4883: you should be able to
[22:51:08] ** tgm4883 shrugs **
[22:51:28] tgm4883: If you do switch, be sure to enable the http://www.mythbuntu.org/repos
[22:51:38] austeregrim: it'd be a clean install
[22:52:46] austeregrim: now I have to figure out what I want to do with another dual core box I have
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[23:39:20] austeregrim: tgm4883, what do I need to add to my sources for the mythbuntu repos?
[23:39:58] tgm4883: austeregrim: do 'apt-add-repository ppa:mythbuntu/0.27'
[23:40:45] austeregrim: why can't I just add the sources to my sources? I hate the ppa bs.
[23:43:39] austeregrim: just things that bug me about ubuntu.. :-P
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[23:48:59] tgm4883: austeregrim: well you can
[23:49:04] austeregrim: ok... looks like its installed. now what do I do?
[23:49:15] tgm4883: out of curiosity, why do you "hate the ppa bs"
[23:49:45] austeregrim: because you don't know where your packages are coming from
[23:49:57] austeregrim: do I really trust leafpad or whatever?
[23:50:22] tgm4883: who's leafpad?
[23:50:33] austeregrim: where they get the ppa info from
[23:51:04] austeregrim: it also makes it that much more difficult to create a local repo mirror of everything you need.
[23:51:05] tgm4883: you mean launchpad?
[23:51:11] austeregrim: yeah launchpad
[23:51:51] tgm4883: well adding trust for one ppa isn't adding trust to them all
[23:51:53] austeregrim: ok so what do i need to do to configure the backend so it starts grabbing the video?
[23:52:18] austeregrim: i installed just the backend on this box.
[23:52:29] tgm4883: austeregrim: I'd go through this, it should get you where you need to be http://goo.gl/S54zL
[23:53:13] austeregrim: uh.. I don't get that fancy screen
[23:53:49] austeregrim: i get a terminal for 1 second, then a dialog box that says you want to start the mythtv backend?
[23:54:15] austeregrim: I hit yes, enter my sudo password
[23:54:23] austeregrim: asks me to fill database?
[23:54:33] austeregrim: I hit yes?
[23:54:48] tgm4883: How did you try to launch mythtv setup?
[23:54:52] austeregrim: a terminal window pops up for 2 seconds, and closes
[23:54:58] austeregrim: from the applications meny
[23:55:00] austeregrim: menu
[23:55:10] tgm4883: ok do this
[23:55:13] tgm4883: open a terminal
[23:55:30] tgm4883: 'sudo service mythtv-backend stop'
[23:55:37] tgm4883: also, what version of mythbuntu did you install?
[23:55:50] ** tgm4883 assumes 14.04 **
[23:56:06] austeregrim: 14.04.1
[23:56:10] tgm4883: ok
[23:56:14] tgm4883: so stop the backend
[23:56:23] austeregrim: stop: unknown instance
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[23:57:36] tgm4883: austeregrim: what is the output of 'dpkg -l | grep myth'
[23:58:11] austeregrim: what are you looking for? I've got like 20 packages here
[23:58:27] tgm4883: austeregrim: pastebin it
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