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Shadow__X:

brieweb: did you setup the information in the backend, select the correct guide, then run mythfilldatabase?

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brieweb:

I thought I did, but I can't seem to get it to work. I am trying it from scratch and I am following the Quick start guide

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brieweb:

I just went through it all and configured the backend and then it ran the mythfilldatabase, but when I look at the System Information, it doesn't have directory information.

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brieweb:

usually, I try running mythfilldatabase here

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brieweb:

as my logged in user "brian"

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brieweb:

any suggestions?

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brieweb:

If I look at the channel editor, it shows the channels and the video input

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brieweb:

does mythfilldatabase have to connect to the database with a password specified somehwere?

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brieweb:

this is the second server I am configuring. Would that have something to do with it?

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Shadow__X:

second server as in slave backend?

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Shadow__X:

or 2nd server as what?

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brieweb:

no, I am just trying to set up a second server

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Shadow__X:

also, make sure you are entering the correct schedules direct info into the backend

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brieweb:

not as slave

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Shadow__X:

and that it pulls in your correct account info

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Shadow__X:

that would be the first step

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brieweb:

hmm, I will try loggin into schedules direct again

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Shadow__X:

once you think that is correct and you select the right listing from schedules direct then exit the backend and manually run mythfilldatabase

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Shadow__X:

iirc --refresh-all might be what you need

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Shadow__X:

and output all of that to a log so you can go through it

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brieweb:

I am not sure of the right listing from schedules direct

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brieweb:

Do I need to create a lineup?

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Shadow__X:

brieweb: in schedules direct? yes you put in your zip code, select your provider and manually edit the channels to your cable packahe

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Shadow__X:

package*

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brieweb:

yes, I put in my zip code

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brieweb:

and I had the channel input scan for channels

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brieweb:

it gets the names of the channels

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brieweb:

and I have Mythbuntu checked for software

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Shadow__X:

and you set one of your sources in mythbackend to use schedules direct right?

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brieweb:

yes. I have a video source that uses the "North America (SchedulesDirect.org)(Internal) grabber

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brieweb:

with my user ID and password

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brieweb:

and then I have an "Input connection" that is tied to that video source

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Shadow__X:

ok, then make sure one of your input connections is set to use the schedules direct video source

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brieweb:

The channel editor shows the channels using that video source

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Shadow__X:

good, now exit mythtv backend and manually run mythfilldatabase with --refresh-all and save the output of that command to a log file

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Shadow__X:

that way you can easily browse the log file

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brieweb:

hmm, I get this error

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brieweb:

Connection to master server timed out

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brieweb:

the server is set to listen on localhost

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Shadow__X:

no, use the ip

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brieweb:

Failed to connect to (127.0.0.1:6543) Connection refused

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brieweb:

ok

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Shadow__X:

if you can use the actual ip of the backened

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Shadow__X:

and if it can't connect then thats not good

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brieweb:

it turned out I hadn't exited the myth backend config

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brieweb:

not the correct error...

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Shadow__X:

whats the error now

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brieweb:

The log file says

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brieweb:

Main temp tables populated.

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brieweb:

Did not find any new program data.

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Shadow__X:

and when you open mythfrontend, is there listing info?

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brieweb:

I just checked the status

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brieweb:

and it said no

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brieweb:

but, I will exit again

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Shadow__X:

what said no

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brieweb:

In the "Information Center"

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brieweb:

System Status

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brieweb:

for Listings Status

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brieweb:

it says "There is no guide data available"

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brieweb:

and it says "Have you run mythfilldatabase"

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brieweb:

it even says that my data direct database subscription expires Sat Mar 18, 2017

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brieweb:

maybe I need a different option?

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Shadow__X:

did you look at the guide info within mythfrontend?

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Shadow__X:

does it list anything?

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brieweb:

when I run "mythfilldatabase --refresh-all --logpath ."

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brieweb:

I opened up a channel

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brieweb:

or, I viewed live tv

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brieweb:

I can go to the guide for recording?

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Shadow__X:

maybe? i don't remember all the key presses for each menu

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Shadow__X:

when you open a channel or watch live tv does it list any info?

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brieweb:

It lists the tv channel name

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brieweb:

it does have the correct name of the channel, but it has no program info

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Shadow__X:

no guide info?

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brieweb:

lyes

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brieweb:

yes

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brieweb:

or, correct. It has no guide info

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Shadow__X:

gotcha

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Shadow__X:

can you check a few days in the future?

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brieweb:

yes

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brieweb:

that could be it I suppose

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brieweb:

I wonder if because it is a separate system that I am building

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brieweb:

it's for our linux user group meeting

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Shadow__X:

what do you mean>

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Shadow__X:

?

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brieweb:

I have two myth boxes that have backend and frontend

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brieweb:

using the same user account to get info from Schedules Direct

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brieweb:

what about the tables with the data?

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Shadow__X:

which tables

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brieweb:

the mysql database tables

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brieweb:

it's weird. I just tried configuring the front end

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brieweb:

and it seg faulted

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brieweb:

and then it connected to the backend of the other server I have on the network

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Shadow__X:

can you temporarily shutdown the other server?

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Shadow__X:

either that or manually configure the ip address of the frontend to use the right ip

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Shadow__X:

and make sure the backend is set to use an ip not localhost

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brieweb:

yes, I could do that

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brieweb:

wierd thing is the log file says

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brieweb:

"No channels are configured to use grabber."

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brieweb:

maybe I should reconfigure again

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brieweb:

since I shut down the other system

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Shadow__X:

make sure you disabled the eit lookup

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Shadow__X:

it could be that your channels defaulted to use eit

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brieweb:

I will check that

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brieweb:

I will try the pytvgrab

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Shadow__X:

pytvgrab?

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Shadow__X:

if you have this configured correctly it should run without needing other software

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brieweb:

hmm, the pytvgrab looks like it doesn't work in USA

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brieweb:

hmm, it looks like I didn't have a lineup!

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brieweb:

I thought it just took things from the zip code

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brieweb:

see if this works

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brieweb:

I added a broadcast lineup

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brieweb:

and it now shows

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brieweb:

looks like directory data is coming!

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** Shadow__X whistles **

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Shadow__X:

lol you didn't listen!!

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Shadow__X:

lol its ok, glad you got it figured out

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Shadow__X:

it will take time to download all the program listings

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Shadow__X:

make sure you go through your schedules direct lineup through their site to pick out the right channels

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brieweb:

I looked in there, and I saw my zip code

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brieweb:

so, I was like it must be getting it...

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brieweb:

it works now

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brieweb:

xmltv on mythbuntu still points to the tribune service

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Shadow__X:

xmltv id's iirc are used by schedules direct

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Shadow__X:

unless you had something else setup

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enyc:

I was noting how amny 'fixups' are in the EIT receiver ;p

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brieweb:

strange thing is I got it to work with my other setup, but the show descriptions came in wrong

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brieweb:

this will be good for our Linux user group meeting tomorrow!

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Shadow__X:

brieweb: the thing to keep in mind is that the xmltv id needs to be correct for the channel

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Shadow__X:

with schedules direct

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Shadow__X:

mythtv will download the xmltv id for whats ever listed from schedules direct

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Shadow__X:

so if that id is wrong, youll get the wrong listings

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brieweb:

I was thinking that since the scan was for terrestial, that it would automatically determine it from Schedules Direct

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Shadow__X:

are you referring to dvb-t?

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Shadow__X:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Setti . . . rrestrial%29

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brieweb:

yes

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Shadow__X:

if you are in the us, we don't use dvb-t though

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brieweb:

oh

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Shadow__X:

normally you setup using atsc or qam

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brieweb:

well, I believe I am using DVB-T

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brieweb:

it's over the air

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brieweb:

rabbit ears

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Shadow__X:

atsc if you use an antenna, or qam for cable

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Shadow__X:

brieweb: whats your tunner? and are you in the us

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brieweb:

Yes, I am in the US, Sacramento, CA

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brieweb:

HD Homerun

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brieweb:

tuner. It's an early one with two coax inputs

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brieweb:

hey, thank you for helping me get that figured out

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brieweb:

I will have to fix my other system. :)

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brieweb:

sorry, my brain is a little fried, since I have been staring at this all day

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Shadow__X:

no problem, if you are in the us and using an antenna, you want to make sure you setup your tunner to scan for atsc

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brieweb:

I am pretty sure I did that, but I will double check

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zoran119:

every time i start live tv two recordings get listed in live recordings on mythweb

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zoran119:

one is the real recording, the other is exactly the same but has no size (empty file)

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zoran119:

any idea what i might have misconfigured?

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zoran119:

starting live tv via xbmc by the way

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enyc:

zoran119: i kno mythweb changes are in progress, what version are you using anyway??

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dmfrey:

how can you flush a theme cache on a FE? I rebuilt one over the weekend, and it seems to always be bringing the wrong version of the Steppes theme

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MaliutaLap:

Are there any wiki administrators about?

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Shadow__X:

dmfrey: iirc there is a refresh option and an option to download updated themes

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dmfrey:

Shadow__X, i have been refreshing it there, but it doesn't seem to update

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dmfrey:

it says an update is available

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dmfrey:

but get an error dialog because it fails to download

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dmfrey:

but I think its because it is trying to download the wrong version

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dmfrey:

versions don't match across my other fe's

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Shadow__X:

can you look at the logs to see what the error is?

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Shadow__X:

also, are you sure BE and FE's are all on the same version?

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sphery:

dmfrey: shut down frontend, rm -rf ~/.mythtv/{theme,remote,thumb}cache ~/.mythtv/Cache-*

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sphery:

then restart frontend

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Shadow__X:

or that

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sphery:

you can choose which of the caches to delete

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Shadow__X:

:D

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dmfrey:

ok, i will try that tonight when I get home

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sphery:

if you do the full command shown, it will delete all caches--but that also means rebuilding all the precached theme images on next startup

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sphery:

and will slow down your first access of images content that has to be downloaded over local network

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dmfrey:

that's fine, i just want to get it back to the way that it was

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sphery:

Shadow__X: yeah, we probably ought to have some "reset cached data" type option in there somewhere

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sphery:

even if just in mythutil

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Shadow__X:

probably a good idea

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Shadow__X:

or atleast listed in troubleshooting steps in the wiki

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sphery:

yeah, that would be a reasonable alternative

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Shadow__X:

easier to implement as well

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sphery:

true

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stuarta:

MaliutaLap: what's up?

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MaliutaLap:

stuarta: I'm trying to create an account so I can update some information about lirc with logitech harmony remotes

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MaliutaLap:

stuarta: apparently one can't register an account for the wiki

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stuarta:

MaliutaLap: let me fix that, it was disabled a week ago due to spammers

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MaliutaLap:

stuarta: cool. I understand that, we see it with some of the sites we host

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stuarta:

MaliutaLap: try now

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MaliutaLap:

stuarta: got in. Thanks

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stuarta:

np

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gregbert:

bill6502: you around? some programs are still not flagging commercials automatically. no idea why. it seems random – but consistent for a given program

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