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| [00:03:38] | arrrghhh: | hey all. I had a manual 'custom' recording setup for a show. It seems to 'drift' channels depending on the time of year, so I'm try to delete that manual recording and make a more automated one that will record based on the listing and day/time |
| [00:04:19] | arrrghhh: | however, it seems the old 'manual' recording is burned into the program guide... there is literally no guide data weeks out except for this show. I have it set to 'do not record' – what else do I need to do to remove it? |
| [00:04:53] | [R]: | go to th recording schedules |
| [00:04:54] | [R]: | and delete it |
| [00:10:57] | arrrghhh: | [R], I did... it's no longer in the recording schedules section |
| [00:12:04] | arrrghhh: | that's the thing, I've done this with a few shows now and none had a problem except this one... I am not sure what the deal is. I've tried restsarting the backend, it's persisted through a few upgrades although it looks like there's a new one I need to apply. |
| [00:12:08] | [R]: | if its manually set to do not record, it might stil lshow up because those are atcually new recording entries |
| [00:12:22] | arrrghhh: | hm. how do I remove that? lol |
| [00:12:22] | [R]: | you need to delete those too |
| [00:12:32] | arrrghhh: | it's not listed in the schedule area |
| [00:12:45] | [R]: | i always just use the recording rules in mythweb |
| [00:13:20] | arrrghhh: | I click on "Recording Schedules" – where is the rules section? |
| [00:13:24] | arrrghhh: | I'm on 0.27.5 |
| [00:14:10] | [R]: | i think tahts the word |
| [00:14:15] | [R]: | it should list all your "do not record" |
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| [00:15:49] | arrrghhh: | yea I can't seem to find that section... at least I don't see anywhere the do not record listings would be |
| [00:15:54] | arrrghhh: | this would be the only show there AFAIk |
| [00:16:34] | [R]: | each thing in the recording schedule is a rule |
| [00:16:58] | arrrghhh: | so the show is Meet the Press on Sundays |
| [00:17:10] | arrrghhh: | and I don't see MTP anywhere in my "Recording Schedule" page |
| [00:18:13] | [R]: | weird |
| [00:18:37] | arrrghhh: | yea it's like something is 'stuck' with that show... I had all sorts of issues getting it to record last week |
| [00:20:03] | arrrghhh: | can I clear the schedule db or something? would be a pain but if I have to setup the shows again it would be at least a solution... I spose I could just blow away the entire db and reinstall myth, but seems a bit drastic |
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| [00:43:55] | arrrghhh: | anyone else around? I'd like to avoid reinstalling myth if I can... |
| [00:45:02] | Jay2k1: | i'll have a look into my DB, maybe I'll find out how to clear it or how to remove that entry |
| [00:45:10] | arrrghhh: | Jay2k1, thx |
| [00:45:24] | arrrghhh: | I am going to poke around myself, just not sure what to look for at this point :) |
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| [00:50:24] | Jay2k1: | arrrghhh: it seems the table in question is called "jobqueue" |
| [00:51:49] | arrrghhh: | Jay2k1, hm I did a select * from jobqueue; and 20 entries were returned... I'm not sure what I'm looking for, there is nothing in the future |
| [00:52:13] | Jay2k1: | ok, what about the "record" table |
| [00:53:29] | arrrghhh: | I was going to ask about recordmatch |
| [00:53:32] | arrrghhh: | let me look at record |
| [00:54:45] | arrrghhh: | it's not in the record table... these seem to be the same list as what I see in 'recording schedules' tho |
| [00:55:42] | Jay2k1: | yeah |
| [00:55:54] | Jay2k1: | and the show that's being recorded over and over doesn't show up there? |
| [00:56:03] | Jay2k1: | i didn't read all of the previous conversation |
| [00:56:14] | arrrghhh: | so basically I created a manual program for a show |
| [00:56:19] | arrrghhh: | it seems to shift channels depending on the time of year |
| [00:56:30] | arrrghhh: | so I tried removing the manual program and add a more automated one... |
| [00:56:50] | arrrghhh: | however, the manual one is 'stuck' in the listing – it shows as 'never record' |
| [00:57:15] | arrrghhh: | I can not seem to remove it from the 'Listing' page so I can just setup an automated recording based on the title |
| [00:57:58] | Jay2k1: | aah |
| [00:58:00] | Jay2k1: | ok |
| [00:58:22] | Jay2k1: | the manual one, i.e. the old one, did you add it by title? |
| [00:58:34] | arrrghhh: | I believe so yes |
| [00:59:55] | Jay2k1: | so a possible way to find it would be to search all columns in all tables for that title name |
| [01:01:12] | Jay2k1: | hmm |
| [01:05:31] | arrrghhh: | yea that's what I did sorta |
| [01:06:16] | arrrghhh: | just did a mysqldump and am searching for meet the press... found a few entries in the oldprogram and program tables, but none are in the future... hmmm |
| [01:07:49] | Jay2k1: | silly question but you already restarted the backend/rebooted the server right? |
| [01:07:55] | arrrghhh: | yep |
| [01:08:00] | arrrghhh: | I've upgraded a few times too |
| [01:08:07] | arrrghhh: | minor 'fixes' updates within 0.27.5, but still |
| [01:09:00] | Jay2k1: | yeah i'm always updating to 0.27.5-fixes |
| [01:09:08] | blahdodo: | Hi, Is is possible to anchor search in mythtweb/Custom/Title Search to match that exact title rather than a title containing the string e.g. ^Blah$ ? |
| [01:12:41] | Jay2k1: | arrrghhh: program and oldprogram is just program data though and have nothing to do with recordings... if it's visible as "never record" it should have this exception somewhere in the DB |
| [01:12:45] | Jay2k1: | weird |
| [01:12:45] | arrrghhh: | Jay2k1, ah I think i pinpointed 3 entries |
| [01:13:00] | arrrghhh: | but yea it's all in program/oldprogram |
| [01:15:04] | arrrghhh: | Jay2k1, can I 'safely' clear out all of the 'program' table? or is there some way I can just remove the one line? |
| [01:15:25] | Jay2k1: | it wouldn't make much sense |
| [01:15:28] | arrrghhh: | ah the second part of that question just shows what a sql noob I am, ofc I can |
| [01:15:35] | Jay2k1: | you're probably using XMLTV or EIT |
| [01:15:39] | arrrghhh: | EIT |
| [01:15:45] | arrrghhh: | I am not using SD |
| [01:15:51] | Jay2k1: | as soon as the guide updates, the entry will be back |
| [01:15:57] | arrrghhh: | you'd think so |
| [01:16:02] | arrrghhh: | but that didn't happen last week |
| [01:16:11] | Jay2k1: | i've cleared the program table myself (along with eitcache) |
| [01:16:18] | Jay2k1: | when i had trouble with EIT |
| [01:16:27] | arrrghhh: | ok |
| [01:16:29] | Jay2k1: | you can safely do that, at least it didn't do anything bad when i did it |
| [01:16:46] | arrrghhh: | can you give me a quick rundown on how to do those things? |
| [01:18:05] | Jay2k1: | DELETE FROM program; |
| [01:18:40] | Jay2k1: | i'd stop mythtv-backend before |
| [01:18:48] | Jay2k1: | you can also DELETE FROM eit_cache; |
| [01:20:55] | arrrghhh: | perfect thx |
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| [01:22:35] | dani_: | look, i bought a pci TV tuner card for my desktop.... the thing is is that my desktop doesnt actually have pci slot :/ can anyone recommend a tv tuner card that will work out of the box? |
| [01:22:55] | arrrghhh: | dani_, I personally like the external IP solutions like HDHomeRun |
| [01:23:17] | dani_: | i need one that's dvb arrrghhh |
| [01:23:50] | arrrghhh: | yea I'm not sure what HDHomeRun is capable of... they had a solution for me, and I know they have a few different options. |
| [01:23:52] | arrrghhh: | good luck |
| [01:24:59] | arrrghhh: | Jay2k1, that seemed to fix it thanks. No longer is there a phantom MTP sitting out there tomorrow in neverneverland |
| [01:25:31] | Jay2k1: | :D |
| [01:25:51] | Jay2k1: | now i have to put on enter sandman |
| [01:26:03] | Jay2k1: | i still don't understand how that could happen |
| [01:26:16] | Jay2k1: | but well, i'm just another user, no developer or anything |
| [01:26:21] | arrrghhh: | lol I don't either, but hey it's fixed and it wasn't too much of a pain |
| [01:26:34] | Jay2k1: | does your guide data already populate? |
| [01:26:41] | arrrghhh: | it's starting to |
| [01:26:47] | arrrghhh: | I have 1 channel populated |
| [01:27:22] | Jay2k1: | cool |
| [01:27:27] | Jay2k1: | then everything should be fine |
| [01:27:40] | arrrghhh: | alright. yea a couple more channels are trickling in |
| [01:27:53] | arrrghhh: | it's weird... some channels I get like 3 days worth of data. Most only give 6–8 hrs |
| [01:30:04] | Jay2k1: | yeah it depends on the channel, same here in germany. |
| [01:30:26] | Jay2k1: | most channels have 5 days, some have 2 weeks |
| [01:30:54] | arrrghhh: | damn I wish most channels had 5 days haha |
| [01:31:13] | arrrghhh: | I've found at least 8 hours is good enough tho |
| [01:31:36] | Jay2k1: | well with 5 days minimum, i don't need to have a recording every day |
| [01:31:50] | Jay2k1: | 2–3 days without powering on is no problem |
| [01:32:00] | arrrghhh: | ah my BE is always on |
| [01:32:31] | Jay2k1: | i have one combined FE/BE sitting below my TV, that's all |
| [01:34:03] | Jay2k1: | it fits perfectly https://www.dropbox.com/s/ss5tgrgse9c7e2d/201 . . . .28.jpg?dl=0 |
| [01:34:24] | arrrghhh: | haha, nice. just looks like a sub |
| [01:34:35] | Jay2k1: | my sub is a bit bigger than that |
| [01:35:25] | Jay2k1: | it doesn't need to permanently run though, so to save energy it only wakes to record and then shuts down |
| [01:35:55] | arrrghhh: | yea I should probably sort out WOL on my router and shutdown the server |
| [01:36:06] | arrrghhh: | I don't need it running 24/7, I'm just lazy and it's easier haha |
| [01:36:28] | Jay2k1: | the only downside is that i can't power it from my remote control, but i have a wake-on-lan widget on my smartphone homescreen for that... or i just get up and push the button on the case |
| [01:36:34] | Jay2k1: | hehe |
| [01:37:23] | Jay2k1: | does your router block WOL packets or why do you have to "sort out" |
| [01:37:52] | arrrghhh: | dani_, googling DVB that's pretty generic... DVB-T? DVB-S? This page seems to list compatible hardware. https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:DVB |
| [01:39:09] | arrrghhh: | Jay2k1, I haven't looked into setting up WOL in a while... I'd need to think about the times I would want it on/off as well. Right now it's nice not having to worry since it's 'always on' but I spose midnight to 6am would be fine for the most part |
| [01:39:35] | Jay2k1: | ah. yeah a few minutes daily runtime would probably be advisable if some channels only offer 8 hours of EIT |
| [01:40:13] | Jay2k1: | setting up WOL is easy though, if the board supports it. it has to be enabled in the BIOS |
| [01:40:16] | Jay2k1: | that's all |
| [01:40:38] | arrrghhh: | right |
| [01:40:40] | Jay2k1: | then you need a WOL program, like an app on a smartphone, where you enter the NIC's MAC address and you're all set |
| [01:40:43] | arrrghhh: | I had it setup a looong time ago |
| [01:41:21] | Jay2k1: | you also need to figure out how to set the BIOS's wakeup time via software |
| [01:41:47] | Jay2k1: | the mythtv wiki is helpful in this regard afair |
| [01:41:59] | arrrghhh: | yea the server does a lot more than just myth be |
| [01:42:06] | Jay2k1: | i see |
| [01:42:09] | arrrghhh: | but still, there are times where I don't really need it |
| [01:42:15] | Jay2k1: | mine doesn't |
| [01:42:25] | Jay2k1: | my NAS does the server-ish things |
| [01:52:30] | dani_: | arrrghhh, im from australia |
| [01:52:36] | dani_: | any ideas which one i will need? |
| [01:52:56] | arrrghhh: | dani_, again it depends. are you doing cable? satellite? over-the-air? |
| [01:53:08] | dani_: | over the air arrrghhh |
| [01:53:57] | arrrghhh: | dani_, so why can't you use a hdhomerun extend? that's what I use, I'm in the US doing OTA |
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| [01:54:21] | dani_: | what is hdhomerun? |
| [01:54:25] | dani_: | does that work in Australia? |
| [01:54:29] | arrrghhh: | .... |
| [01:54:36] | arrrghhh: | I don't know, you're going to have to do some legwork |
| [01:54:41] | arrrghhh: | I suggested it earlier and you shot it down immediately |
| [01:55:00] | dani_: | us and asia use different devices |
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| [01:55:16] | arrrghhh: | ok like I said you may need to do some legwork |
| [01:55:31] | arrrghhh: | but I use the hdhomerun extend for OTA broadcasts. |
| [01:55:45] | dani_: | i need a DVB-T card |
| [01:56:17] | arrrghhh: | yes, the hdhomerun extend does dvb-t |
| [01:56:28] | arrrghhh: | I'm not sure if there's certain regions it doesn't work in tho |
| [01:57:00] | dani_: | ok i've looked into it and it's hella expensive |
| [01:57:22] | arrrghhh: | $100? lol ok |
| [01:58:08] | dani_: | + ive only got one Network port |
| [01:58:40] | arrrghhh: | alright well I guess google for cards. I had an old haupaugge but I wanted HD |
| [01:59:06] | dani_: | what do you think i should google? |
| [01:59:17] | arrrghhh: | well that link I sent earlier would be a good place to start |
| [01:59:24] | arrrghhh: | it had a list of compatible hardware |
| [02:00:02] | arrrghhh: | also if you don't have a pci slot you're kinda limited |
| [02:00:06] | arrrghhh: | what were you thinking, USB? |
| [02:01:26] | dani_: | arrrghhh, pciexpress is fine |
| [02:03:41] | arrrghhh: | well googling for pci-e dvb-t cards would be a good place to start then :) |
| [02:03:59] | arrrghhh: | I've mentioned what I use, that's what I have experience with... Good luck. |
| [02:05:37] | dani_: | what do they mean by support: "yes, by vendor"? |
| [02:06:33] | arrrghhh: | did you click on the link? |
| [02:06:51] | dani_: | i did yes |
| [02:06:55] | dani_: | im searching elsewhere now |
| [02:07:11] | arrrghhh: | so that's what it means... not sure what you want explained lol |
| [02:07:20] | dani_: | ?? |
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| [02:07:41] | arrrghhh: | only those vendors listed on that page support those particular cards |
| [02:08:37] | dani_: | im having a hard time finding anything on eBay |
| [02:09:16] | arrrghhh: | c'est la vie |
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| [02:19:46] | dani_: | arrrghhh, the card im looking at says "The open source driver requires firmware for demod" what does that mean exactly? |
| [02:19:58] | arrrghhh: | no idea |
| [02:20:36] | membiblio: | Demodulation of something ? |
| [02:20:41] | membiblio: | Which card? |
| [02:20:58] | membiblio: | arrrghhh you watch Black Sails? :) |
| [02:21:11] | arrrghhh: | membiblio, I have not heard of that show |
| [02:21:21] | ** arrrghhh googles ** | |
| [02:21:27] | arrrghhh: | ah starz |
| [02:21:56] | membiblio: | It is Starz and just started second (?) season. Good Show. I recommend if you can get it. I'm moist with anticipation for Starz to offer a android app like HBO. |
| [02:22:16] | arrrghhh: | actually looks like s3, but yea |
| [02:22:21] | membiblio: | So dani_ which card are you looking at? |
| [02:22:43] | membiblio: | I love my silicon dust tuner just keeps working and working. A little miracle :) |
| [02:23:04] | dani_: | membiblio, DVBSky T982 |
| [02:23:14] | dani_: | im starting to look around at USB devices |
| [02:23:20] | arrrghhh: | yea that hdhomerun I bought just had an issue with the cheapo fan being loud. put in a noctua fan, it's dead silent now |
| [02:23:49] | membiblio: | I can't say I recommend USB devices. For me – they 'fall offline' and need to be un/re plugged :( |
| [02:24:35] | dani_: | what do you mean fall offline membiblio ? |
| [02:24:46] | dani_: | they stop beiing detected? |
| [02:25:12] | arrrghhh: | yea, stop working / being seen by the OS I'd guess |
| [02:25:12] | dani_: | can you recommend a DVB-T pci Express card for me at all membiblio ? |
| [02:25:15] | membiblio: | They just 'stop working' and need to be physically unplugged and then plugged back in. Sometimes the usb port just does not work. |
| [02:25:33] | membiblio: | dani_ I'm looking now at the card you are looking at. |
| [02:25:51] | dani_: | im after something that works out of the box |
| [02:27:41] | dani_: | the list of USB devices far outnumbers the Pci Express devices for some reason |
| [02:27:43] | membiblio: | That card looks nice and pci should be really stable. I'm in US and am accessing the over the air / terrestrial atsc broadcast. So we are in different markets. Is DVB universal or just European satellites? |
| [02:28:53] | membiblio: | Are you going to use this card for Satellite or for FreeView and OTA UK/EU/Asia? |
| [02:29:03] | arrrghhh: | Australia membiblio |
| [02:29:10] | arrrghhh: | and DVB-T |
| [02:29:26] | arrrghhh: | dani_, USB is more 'universal', so I'm sure it's easier to make cheap USB tuner cards |
| [02:29:31] | arrrghhh: | plus laptops etc |
| [02:29:59] | dani_: | do you think usb will be easier to get going arrrghhh, membiblio ?? |
| [02:30:12] | membiblio: | Ok for DVB-T – PLEASE – look at silicon dust offerings – they use Ethernet – and the new units transcode internally delivering to your DVR a h.264 stream which is infinitely manageable |
| [02:30:12] | dani_: | i dont mind unplugging from time to time |
| [02:30:32] | dani_: | membiblio, i have only one ethernet and it's used |
| [02:30:40] | membiblio: | And you can find used stuff on ebay if you don't mind getting MPEG2 |
| [02:30:58] | membiblio: | Just plug the silicon dust ANYWHERE on your network – a hub port |
| [02:31:04] | arrrghhh: | dani_, might want to look into adding a cheap switch or hub |
| [02:31:16] | arrrghhh: | or re-use an old router, set it up as a switch |
| [02:31:19] | membiblio: | It grabs a ip via dhcp and after that it is 'automagic' |
| [02:31:47] | arrrghhh: | membiblio, lol I just realized we are talking about the same thing |
| [02:31:53] | arrrghhh: | I forgot the company that makes it is called silicon dust |
| [02:31:57] | membiblio: | :) |
| [02:32:07] | membiblio: | arrrghh do you have a silicon dust? |
| [02:32:14] | arrrghhh: | yea, I love my HDHomeRun Extend |
| [02:32:15] | arrrghhh: | ^^ |
| [02:32:45] | arrrghhh: | I swapped the fan cuz the stock one was ridiculously noisy... other than that little wrinkle, the device is really great |
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| [02:33:04] | membiblio: | I know, right? You have to experience to know. I'm a total conver and advocate. That thing just works. It is the most reliable thing (embedded device) (ANY device really) I have EVER purchased :) |
| [02:33:17] | membiblio: | Wait – yours has a fan? |
| [02:33:36] | arrrghhh: | yep, it was tiny and loud when it kicked on |
| [02:33:39] | membiblio: | Mine has no fan. |
| [02:33:50] | membiblio: | Hmm weird but interesting :) |
| [02:33:53] | arrrghhh: | I was thinking it was just dust and off balance... couldn't solve it |
| [02:33:57] | dani_: | this is what im looking at.... https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-T_ . . . _USB_Devices |
| [02:34:02] | arrrghhh: | just swapped it with a 40mm noctua fan. silent now |
| [02:34:13] | dani_: | can someone please recommend one or two of these at all please? |
| [02:34:17] | arrrghhh: | membiblio, which model do you have? |
| [02:34:33] | membiblio: | dani go to http://silicondust.com and then choose Australia at the top |
| [02:35:13] | membiblio: | Then choose products and pull down till you get to AUSTRALIA |
| [02:35:26] | membiblio: | Look for HDHR4–2DT(AU) |
| [02:35:28] | arrrghhh: | dani_, neither of us are recommending those USB cards, but anything with built-in kernel support should be fine. Haupaugge is a good name. |
| [02:35:36] | membiblio: | NO! |
| [02:35:40] | arrrghhh: | lol |
| [02:35:43] | membiblio: | That is my opinion. |
| [02:36:05] | membiblio: | But I started with a Hauppaugge and I'll just send it to you for free if you want it :) |
| [02:36:09] | arrrghhh: | I would agree, but dani_ seems insisent that there are no free ethernet ports and doesn't want to expand... |
| [02:36:34] | arrrghhh: | jeez that list of USB devices is huge |
| [02:36:40] | membiblio: | So that HDHR4–2DT will work with mythtv |
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| [02:36:57] | membiblio: | OMG can I send you a old 10 mb hub ? |
| [02:37:18] | membiblio: | And the hauppauge usb thing – save me the recycle fee :) |
| [02:37:28] | arrrghhh: | haha trying to clean out your attic of old computer parts? :P |
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| [02:38:12] | membiblio: | We have to pay to recycle stuff with lead in it. Not expensive. But if I were a Republican I'd just throw it in the garbage and be done with it. Clean conscience :) |
| [02:38:25] | arrrghhh: | heh |
| [02:38:42] | membiblio: | Are you watching our political debates? |
| [02:39:02] | arrrghhh: | yep been watching both sides |
| [02:39:36] | membiblio: | I have to say Bernie Sanders is making a lot of sense and speaking right to me but Hillary probably (hopefully) will be our next President. |
| [02:40:00] | arrrghhh: | what's really sad is... Rand Paul did a great AMA on Reddit. But people still think he's a crackpot. |
| [02:40:09] | membiblio: | Could you imagine Donald Trump? I had a dream he was the Anti-Christ – scared the bejeepers out of me. |
| [02:40:14] | membiblio: | AMA? |
| [02:40:21] | arrrghhh: | I like what Bernie has to say, but I just don't see him winning the general. he's too combative and his ideas are not exactly centrist |
| [02:40:31] | arrrghhh: | ama == ask me anything |
| [02:40:36] | arrrghhh: | reddit does 'em a lot |
| [02:40:45] | membiblio: | No they are not centrist. OH.. AMA gotcha nice. I will look at. |
| [02:41:02] | arrrghhh: | but Rand will never even come close to winning |
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| [02:41:33] | arrrghhh: | I'm scared if it is Bernie v Trump, Bloomberg will jump in and cannibalize any chance of Bernie winning. |
| [02:41:33] | membiblio: | So I've heard, and I'm not sure, that the US has done right and center and now needs to try left. I thought Bill Clinton was pretty center. |
| [02:42:03] | membiblio: | But who will Bloomberg run as? Repub, Demo or Independent? |
| [02:42:08] | arrrghhh: | independent |
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| [02:42:33] | arrrghhh: | he already said he would run as indep if it's Bernie v Trump or Bernie v Cruz |
| [02:42:34] | membiblio: | And I'd vote for a Republican Bloomberg. But a Independent – maybe... |
| [02:42:54] | arrrghhh: | Bloomberg is so far from republican lol |
| [02:43:00] | arrrghhh: | other than the whole rich thing |
| [02:43:02] | membiblio: | I wonder what Bloomberg's deal with Bernie is? |
| [02:43:11] | arrrghhh: | he doesn't think Bernie can win in the general |
| [02:43:17] | arrrghhh: | which, I'm kinda worried he's right about. |
| [02:43:27] | membiblio: | Gotcha... interesting and yes I agree probably. |
| [02:43:43] | membiblio: | arrrghh where are you in the world – I'm in Pittsburgh PA btw |
| [02:43:51] | arrrghhh: | Denver CO here |
| [02:43:56] | dani_: | ok.. this is what i've found arrrghhh , and membiblio .... Hauppauge WinTV NOVA-T USB Stick ($90 AU) |
| [02:43:58] | membiblio: | Nice. Free pot. |
| [02:44:04] | arrrghhh: | well, it's not free |
| [02:44:07] | arrrghhh: | but it is legal xD |
| [02:44:17] | membiblio: | dani_ can I send you a free ethernet hub? |
| [02:44:30] | dani_: | im not handing out my address sorry |
| [02:44:54] | membiblio: | :) I just want you to get a silicon dust and be happy |
| [02:45:32] | membiblio: | It is $50 US at B&H Photo |
| [02:45:35] | arrrghhh: | membiblio, the no fan thing makes me wonder... which model do you have? |
| [02:45:44] | membiblio: | Let me go look brb |
| [02:46:21] | dani_: | it's listed under "Supported DVB-T USB Devices (old data)" is the "Old Data" any less accurate? |
| [02:47:02] | arrrghhh: | old data probably just means they are old cards – so you'll probably only get SD if anything (not sure if you care about HD) |
| [02:47:15] | arrrghhh: | I would hope in AU they broadcast OTA in HD like they do her |
| [02:47:17] | arrrghhh: | here* |
| [02:47:24] | Jay2k1: | i guess that's exactly what old data means |
| [02:47:43] | Jay2k1: | it's kinda unlikely that linux removes hardware support from the kernel ^^ |
| [02:48:04] | dani_: | http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Hauppauge-WinTV-NO . . . AOSwLN5Wh6KX |
| [02:48:17] | membiblio: | HDHomeRun Dual ATSC – it does NOT have h.264 transcode built in so I have to 'deal' with MPEG2 7Gb / hour files and stuff |
| [02:49:15] | membiblio: | arrrghhh you have the EXTEND? |
| [02:49:33] | arrrghhh: | membiblio, yep |
| [02:50:39] | membiblio: | So I can see why that might need a fan for the transcoding if they did not use a hardware FPGA or similar to transcode. Do you use the h.264 output or ask it to send MPEG2? |
| [02:51:04] | arrrghhh: | hm. I don't think I remember configuring that lol |
| [02:51:08] | membiblio: | I think that will be my next purchase when I have free funds. |
| [02:51:11] | arrrghhh: | I'm pretty sure it's just mpeg2 |
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| [02:52:08] | membiblio: | So arrrghhh your device will spit out h.264 which you can store at, maybe, 1/6 to 1/8 the storage of MPEG2 and stream over the internet pretty reasonably |
| [02:52:45] | membiblio: | And most PC will decode, now, natively without using a lot of CPU. Some machines GPU does it. |
| [02:52:59] | membiblio: | I'm jealous :) |
| [02:53:11] | membiblio: | Did you pay 169 or buy used? |
| [02:53:19] | arrrghhh: | I bought it on Amazon brand new |
| [02:53:23] | membiblio: | Nice. |
| [02:53:25] | arrrghhh: | was like $129 I think |
| [02:53:29] | membiblio: | You are using Myth |
| [02:53:39] | arrrghhh: | ofc |
| [02:53:45] | membiblio: | What is ofc? |
| [02:53:54] | arrrghhh: | of course :) |
| [02:53:59] | membiblio: | Oh ! :) |
| [02:54:10] | arrrghhh: | hm I'm not quite sure what is wrong |
| [02:54:32] | membiblio: | So did you know that myth will record more than 2 streams if you record off the same channel (subchannels of ATSC)? |
| [02:55:14] | arrrghhh: | ah I did not know that |
| [02:55:24] | dani_: | ok so the USB TV Card i've been eyeing off says "HDTV reception is not possible."?? |
| [02:55:35] | arrrghhh: | but I don't get how to configure it for h.264... the confg/setup tool doesn't provide any options for thta |
| [02:55:48] | arrrghhh: | dani_, yes read what I said earlier lol |
| [02:55:52] | arrrghhh: | older cards won't do HD |
| [02:56:07] | membiblio: | dani_ no way – what DOES it pick up then? |
| [02:56:19] | arrrghhh: | SDTV |
| [02:56:22] | arrrghhh: | 480p |
| [02:56:36] | membiblio: | Oh dani_ that is the OTHER thing with USB – it just absolutely hogs the USB bus leaving NO time for anything else. |
| [02:57:08] | membiblio: | When receiving HD... I should have prefaced. Sorry to lie so openly and blatantly. I am NOT Donald Trump! |
| [02:57:18] | arrrghhh: | dani_, you will be much, much happier getting a dedicated device. couldn't be easier to setup either.... although I can't seem to figure out h.264 |
| [02:57:46] | membiblio: | dani_ so WHY do you not have a extra Ethernet port on your network? Where does your ethernet cable run to? |
| [02:58:43] | membiblio: | Please tell me your ethernet does not go right into a dsl modem or something and you are using PPP :) |
| [03:00:36] | dani_: | bah |
| [03:00:52] | membiblio: | Don't bah... want a hug? |
| [03:01:35] | membiblio: | Wow 129 is great for the extend. Maybe I will have to give amazon a shot. |
| [03:01:49] | arrrghhh: | let me look at the exact price, that's what I recall |
| [03:02:11] | arrrghhh: | $118.99.... |
| [03:02:14] | membiblio: | There is not one single extend on ebay |
| [03:02:15] | membiblio: | wow |
| [03:02:20] | membiblio: | for the extend? |
| [03:02:35] | arrrghhh: | it's now $150 lol |
| [03:02:36] | arrrghhh: | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GY0UB6I?k . . . 1&sr=8-1 |
| [03:02:46] | arrrghhh: | yep, that exact one ^^... dunno why it was so cheap |
| [03:03:15] | membiblio: | I'm not a prime member... |
| [03:03:26] | arrrghhh: | I am, it shows $149.99 for me |
| [03:03:36] | arrrghhh: | but in my order history, clearly says $118.99... dunno |
| [03:03:51] | membiblio: | There are 2 used ones on amazon – i would do that |
| [03:05:02] | membiblio: | dani_ are you ignoring me :) Can you share with us about your ethernet situation? |
| [03:05:14] | dani_: | ??? |
| [03:05:19] | membiblio: | cuz now I be curious and nozy :) |
| [03:05:31] | membiblio: | where does your ethernet cable run to? |
| [03:07:53] | membiblio: | ok i'm heading to bed night night all – it was great chatting with :) |
| [03:10:13] | arrrghhh: | nite |
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| [03:25:01] | dani_: | The TBS6280 is a Dual Tuner DVB-T/DVB-T2 card....this card will work for DVB-T reception?? |
| [03:25:51] | arrrghhh: | dani_, google is always your friend |
| [03:25:57] | arrrghhh: | see which cards aussies use |
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| [04:08:55] | dani_: | the TV card i'm looking at says -firmware comes in linux-firmware-nonfree in Ubuntu |
| [04:09:19] | dani_: | are they charging? |
| [04:09:47] | [R]: | its called nonfree because its not free speech |
| [04:09:50] | [R]: | it still free beer |
| [04:10:39] | dani_: | kewl |
| [04:15:38] | dani_: | how big is the linux-firmware-nonfree in Ubuntu? |
| [04:15:52] | [R]: | apt-cache shoudl tell you |
| [04:22:49] | dani_: | Im looking into buying the following TV Card – I have confirmed that it is a DVB-T device which is what i want.... do you think i will have any trouble installing this card given the small amount of info from this page --> http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-MiniStick |
| [04:23:32] | [R]: | if the website says it s supported |
| [04:23:36] | [R]: | it'll work |
| [04:23:41] | [R]: | assuming you are getting what it is talking about |
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| [04:25:25] | blahdodo: | is it possible to auto skip commercials while recording a show? |
| [04:29:15] | [R]: | if you start commflag when the recording starts and you wait for the comm flag process to catch up |
| [04:29:15] | [R]: | yes |
| [04:29:26] | [R]: | i.e. you need to start watching it like 15 minutes int oit... depending on your processor |
| [04:32:08] | blahdodo: | mythcommflag runs automaticaly but the recording is not flagged according to kodi (no skipping) when played while the recording is taking place untill the recording is completed then it says ist flagged |
| [04:32:24] | blahdodo: | wondered if there was a work around |
| [04:32:59] | [R]: | kodi is crap |
| [04:33:01] | [R]: | use the real frontend |
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| [04:35:25] | blahdodo: | not thought of running mythfrontend ona raspberrypi2 I may have a go see what happens |
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| [04:47:19] | blahdodo: | Is it possible to anchor a search in mythtweb/Custom/Title Search to match that exact title rather than an title containing the string e.g. ^Blah$ ? |
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| [22:30:34] | DHR-y: | I want to hook up two Hauppauge HD-PVRs to record the output of two cable boxes. I don't trust the ways of getting myth to manipulate the cable boxes. So I want to program the cable boxes myself. So here's the problem: can I tell Myth, when programming, which HD-PVR to record from? |
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| [22:43:37] | gregbert: | DHR-y: i can't follow what you wrote. but i can tell you that you can specify which tuner to record from – so yes |
| [22:47:08] | DHR-y: | gregbert: sorry for not being clear. We program with mythweb and I don't see how to specify which tuner. |
| [22:47:44] | gregbert: | DHR-y: have you tried the frontend |
| [22:47:46] | DHR-y: | One horrible way would be to have different channel lineups somehow, even if they aren't actually different. |
| [22:48:04] | gregbert: | DHR-y: again. no idea what that means |
| [22:48:55] | gregbert: | DHR – in the frontend, if you open up a recording rule and go into 'schedule options', the second option specifies which input to use for a given show |
| [22:49:33] | gregbert: | DHR-y: i'll not try to dig into 'why' you want to do this |
| [22:55:04] | DHR-y: | gregbert: thanks. MythWeb doesn't seem to expose that. I'll go have a look at the frontend |
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| [22:57:25] | ** enyc having al sorts of fun with dvb-t2 tuner in uk ** | |
| [22:58:14] | ** enyc in particular wondering if the uk-Oxford transmitter DVB-T frequencies etc. SHOULD or SHOULD NOT advertise the DVB-T2 transport frequencies when doing a 'tuned' full scan.... ** | |
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