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Wednesday, January 27th, 2016, 00:05 UTC

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stefan__1:

hello

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stefan__1:

just added a second backend but can't stream recordings via mythweb.

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stefan__1:

seems to be a long known problem. are there any workarounds yet?

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stefan__1:

I'm running 2:0.27.0+fixes.20140324.8ee257c-0ubuntu3

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Hydr0p0nX:

what hostname is being used on the fe and be ? can you ping them from your host

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Hydr0p0nX:

can they ping each other by hostname ?

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stefan__1:

Hydr0p0nX: I can ping okay and watch recordings from kodi. but mythweb fails to stream/download from slave backend

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stefan__1:

Hydr0p0nX: they can only ping by IP, not by hostname

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arrrghhh:

someone ping me if they have an idea about my guide issue... bbl

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dmfrey:

bill6502, found it. i did have a mismapped field in the recordId in my mappings

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Hydr0p0nX:

stefan__1, add a host entry to /etc/hosts for each hostname

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Hydr0p0nX:

see if that helps

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stefan__1:

Hydr0p0nX: thanks, I'll try that

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Hydr0p0nX:

shouldn't nee to bounce anything for it to be picked up

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bill6502:

dmfrey: tnx, pulled it, I'll be gone for awhile.

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stefan__1:

Hydr0p0nX: added hosts but didn't halp. should i restart any services?

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Hydr0p0nX:

testing on linux or windows machine?

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stefan__1:

linux machines

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stefan__1:

btw: thats my error message in the browser:

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stefan__1:

14112_20160127001500.mpg does not exist in any recognized storage group directories for this host.

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Hydr0p0nX:

have firefox?

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stefan__1:

yes

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Hydr0p0nX:

try installing the live http headers plugin

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Hydr0p0nX:

then browsing the URL

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Hydr0p0nX:

that'll show where it's sending you for the stream

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Hydr0p0nX:

if you're not on one of the hosts, it may not hurt to add their hostnames + ip address to your machine's /etc/hosts also

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Hydr0p0nX:

i don't have multiple backends so i'm not in a good position to test

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Hydr0p0nX:

if you want to post the (text) results to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ , I can take a look and let you know if I see anything obvious

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stefan__1:

results seem clear to me: http://pastebin.com/HdaFU69b

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Hydr0p0nX:

seems like part of the response is missing, does the /var/log/apache2/access.log or error.log show anything useful?

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stefan__1:

nothing in error.log, one GET line in access.log

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stefan__1:

in mythbackend.log i get a lot of: E HttpServer83 mythcorecontext.cpp:889 (GetBackendServerIP) No address defined for host:

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stefan__1:

there is no specific host given after host:

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Hydr0p0nX:

how do you have the slave defined in the backend setup?

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stefan__1:

slave has it's own IPv4 adress and the IP of the master ist set too

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Hydr0p0nX:

is master backend override checked ?

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stefan__1:

is unchecked

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Hydr0p0nX:

and you can stream a file saved on the master, right?

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stefan__1:

yes, i can stream/download recordings stored on the master

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stefan__1:

the now slave backend used to be the only master. mythweb is also running on the slave backlend. i can stream recordings of the slave on this mythweb page. but not from master

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Hydr0p0nX:

ok

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Hydr0p0nX:

so, you're current slave is your old master ...

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stefan__1:

yes

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stefan__1:

but now i think it might be due to apache misconfiguration. on apache restart i get:

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stefan__1:

AH00558: apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1. Set the 'ServerName' directive globally to suppress this message

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Hydr0p0nX:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Backend_migration have you followed that ?

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Hydr0p0nX:

based on your apache logs, I suspect the host name updates weren't done so your new master thinks the files are there

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stefan__1:

the host names are ok in the recorded table

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stefan__1:

the host name of the old master was not changed and the new master has a new name.

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stefan__1:

the new master has a new database where i only added the entries from my old recorded table

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stefan__1:

I read that mythweb had problems with recordings on slave (a long time ago):

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stefan__1:

http://www.mythtvtalk.com/storage-groups-driv . . . orted-14791/

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Hydr0p0nX:

yea, but that was 0.24 and almost 5 years ago

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Hydr0p0nX:

do both backends have the same storagegroup paths ? e.g. /myth_storage/videos ... on both hosts ? or do that have different paths defined?

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stefan__1:

every backend has 2 harddisks for data. all 4 paths are different and defined om the master backend for the Default storage group

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stefan__1:

i just bumped up the upnp logging to verbose and requested 2 recordings via the getRecording api. the first is on the master, second on the slave

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stefan__1:

http://pastebin.com/R9m5rn4Y

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Hydr0p0nX:

and you can ping flatbox from lendtv now right?

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stefan__1:

okay. this test using the getRecording API works when bakends are registered in /etc/hosts of pc running the browser

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stefan__1:

yes, ping worls in both directions using hostnames

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Hydr0p0nX:

ok

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Hydr0p0nX:

one thing you can try is adding a rewrite rule to the mythweb vhost that rewrites host names to their ip addresses

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stefan__1:

thank you. i will try that rewrite rules tomorrow (4am here)

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stefan__1:

But you say that mythweb-streams from slave should work OOTB on .27, right?

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Hydr0p0nX:

I think so

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Hydr0p0nX:

i don't have a slave be to test with though

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stefan__1:

i'm just trying to figure out what cgi modules get called when starting a stream. do you have a clue?

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stefan__1:

okay, I gues it starts in: /var/www/html/mythweb/modules/stream/handler.pl

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stefan__1:

Hydr0p0nX: Thank you very much for your time.

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stefan__1:

Hydr0p0nX: But as far as I can tell from the comments in the mythweb perl scripts only local recordings are streamable

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Hydr0p0nX:

it could be, that was the case a long time ago,but i though it was resolvable ...

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fuierty:

hi, anyone there? i need help in mythtv setup in windows?

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Roklobotomy:

oh you're here

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Roklobotomy:

fuierty: do you want the backend or just the front end?

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fuierty:

i don't know

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fuierty:

i don't know what they do

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fuierty:

i just want to watch tv from my tv tuner card

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fuierty:

Roklobotomy, i'm here

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Roklobotomy:

ok

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Roklobotomy:

well, mythbackedn which does the recording needs to run on linux.

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fuierty:

i'm on windows 8.1

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Roklobotomy:

to watch tv you can use Kodi or VLC in Windows

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Roklobotomy:

nono i mean to watch the recordings from the backend

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fuierty:

how backend work?

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Roklobotomy:

mythtv is in 2 parts, the server backend which records runs on linux only

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fuierty:

i installed mythtv from sourceforge, when i run it, it opens a command prompt then open some settings, i don't know what to put in there

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Roklobotomy:

the frontend is more flexible, like i said you can use Kodi or VLC as a front end.

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Roklobotomy:

The dedicate MythTV Frontend software is linux only too

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Roklobotomy:

oh yeah, ok.

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Roklobotomy:

well

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Roklobotomy:

use linux

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Roklobotomy:

for the backend

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Roklobotomy:

everyone dedicates a pc for this. I have a silent pc under my tv with 4 DVB tuner cards and 2TB of RAID5 drives to record things and it uses Mythbuntu.

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Roklobotomy:

I don't know what exists in the Windows world that will do what mythbackend server does.

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Roklobotomy:

and mythtv is a bit of a shit to set up. but it's worth the pain.

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Roklobotomy:

i have been recording tv for 8 years now with it.

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woeitys:

hey Roklobotomy, i'm fuierty, i got dc

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woeitys:

i was asking, you mean i use linux as a main os on system where i insert my tv card ? , and then it will operate as a server, and then i use any client to watch from that server? but how will i change channels on my dish box from client ?

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Roklobotomy:

which dish box? I use DVB-T tuner cards. I haven't used a 3rd party dish box.

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Roklobotomy:

but yes, you need linux

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Roklobotomy:

mythbuntu is good.

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Roklobotomy:

http://www.mythbuntu.org/

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Roklobotomy:

then read many mythtv forums and wikis and ask lots of questions here

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woeitys:

i have a dish, and a cable come from dish to my dish box, and then audio video cables from dish box goes in my pci tv card, so i use composit video option in my totalmedia software to watch tv, but totalmedia is outdated and buggy

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Roklobotomy:

do you have a firewire option?

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Roklobotomy:

with you STB?

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woeitys:

STB mean?

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Roklobotomy:

yes

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woeitys:

i mean what is STB ?

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Roklobotomy:

set top box

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woeitys:

no

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woeitys:

it is startrek sr-9990 box

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woeitys:

are there tv cards which can work as a STB ?

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woeitys:

so i don't have to use STB ?

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Roklobotomy:

yes, is it DVB/encrypted?

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Roklobotomy:

you can get DVB-S cards

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Roklobotomy:

but i have no experience with that

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woeitys:

i don't know

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woeitys:

can you tell me if my card is DVB-S or not? i'm using ASUS Analog TV Card My Cinema-P7131

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Roklobotomy:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Setti . . . or_satellite

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woeitys:

Roklobotomy, if i use DVB-S card, can i make a server of all channels that i get from settelite ?

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Roklobotomy:

no the card can only get one channel at a time.

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Roklobotomy:

i'll qualify that. the card will tune to one signal but there will be more than 1 channel on that signal. You can record all the channels on that signal if you want.

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Roklobotomy:

at the same time.l

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woeitys:

Roklobotomy, thank you sir, that was a very valueable information for me, i will now try to work on the links you gave me,

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Roklobotomy:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/DVB-S too

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jarnos_:

I have an extended desktop. The left display is 4:3, the right 16:10. I set in appearance setup 16:10 for aspect ratio, resolution of the right screen as GUI & playback canvas size. I set Offset so that mythtv is on the right display. No zoom set in playback setup. Still the aspect ratio in playback is wrong. It becomes right, if I set 4:3 aspect ratio, but the display is 16:10! I am using 0.27.1.

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stuarta:

jarnos_: are they treated as one display or two?

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sphery:

/away

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sphery:

jarnos_: you need to specify which monitor to run on

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sphery:

jarnos_: "Display on screen" in Appearance settings

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sphery:

can't just use an offset

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jarnos_:

stuarta, one

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jarnos_:

stuarta, that is why I have to use offset to force it to right display. Though Xfce tries to open app in the display where cursor is, which overrides mythtv's setting at first.

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jarnos_:

sphery, stuarta oh, I can put Mythtv on the right screen alternatively by changing the display setting in Appearance menu. If I do so, aspect ratio setting works fine.

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stuarta:

jarnos_: that's the correct approach, tell it to use screen 1, rather than 0, works fine

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stuarta:

i do that all the time

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jarnos_:

stuarta, I tell it to use display 1. There is only Screen 0 according to xrandr.

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stuarta:

pastebin your xrandr output

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jarnos_:

stuarta, http://pastebin.com/0aqeh6ML

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jarnos_:

I wonder how the displays are numbered. xfce4-display-settings tells the VGA display is number 1.

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stuarta:

jarnos_: it shows 2 displays

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stuarta:

using your screen layout settings wotsit, you should set the 2nd head right|left|above|below your first screen, and ensure they aren't mirrored

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stuarta:

then it should "just work"

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jarnos_:

but when I set display 1 in mythtv settings, it is put in the LVDS display. At lest in this case.

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stuarta:

that's correct accoring to your xrandr, lvds is the 2nd head

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stuarta:

so you either set display on to '0' or swap the logical number of the displays

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jarnos_:

stuarta, do you mean that the lvds is number 2, if it's modes are listed as second in xrandr output?

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stuarta:

you can see from the offset "VDS-0 connected 1920x1200+1280+0" (+1280) that lvds is the 2nd head

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stefan__1:

but the second head has number 1, as counting starts from 0

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jarnos_:

stuarta, so the first is the leftmost? How do you swap the logical number of the displays?

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jarnos_:

stuarta, or the one that is located at 0.

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jarnos_:

I mean at +0+0

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stuarta:

you should be able to arrange the displays, at least with gnome, the display settings allows you to "arrange combined displays"

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jarnos_:

Well, using the Xfce way, I can drag the displays to arrange them. BTW it was not a good idea to do it, while mythtv is running: its output became flickering and corrupted.

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stuarta:

heh

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jarnos_:

I still don't get it why mythtv can not detect the aspect ratio automatically. You can see the information in xrandr output.

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jarnos_:

It would be nice, if mythtv could detect aspect ratio automatically. Could you setup mythfrontend so that it will open in an extrenal display, if one is connected and there is extended desktop in use; otherwise it would open in the single screen that is in use.

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ccat:

.

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ccat:

q: Greetings! Wanting online cable tv. No media-libraries to support. Already have "fast" inet, even though cable TV-CHANS still often pixelate most fast action. Want NO PIXELATION ! — No good search-results so far. Please advise! :)

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sphery:

ccat: If you're talking about streaming content, this isn't the channel for you. This channel is about MythTV, a DVR for recording TV from antenna or cable TV providers.

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ccat:

sphery: oh, thought m-tv was Complete video-support sw — ty anyway!

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gpd:

just updated ubuntu – mythfrontend can no longer connect to mysql – any similar reports or just me?

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gpd:

I can connect to mysql -u mythtv from the command line – fine

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gpd:

ubuntu 14.01.01 – updated mysql-server to 5.5.47 yesterday

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gpd:

running mythtv 27.5+fixes 20160123

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gpd:

mythfrontend says driver error was [1/2003] unable to connect to MySQL on xxx (111)

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gpd:

just me then

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jm|laptop:

gpd: tried re-runing mythtv-setup ?

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gpd:

yes – it can't connect to the database either

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jm|laptop:

are you using localhost where you should be using a hostname or vice versa

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gpd:

no – IP address – was all working perfectly for the last 8 years... :)

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jm|laptop:

why does mysql.log report?

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gpd:

no issues – i can connect via cmdline or phpmyadmin

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jm|laptop:

doesn't mythtv has its own my.cnf?

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gpd:

yes – checked – no obvious issues

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jm|laptop:

mythtv@asok:~$ cat .mythtv/config.xml < this is the file that I think I had to change

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jm|laptop:

<Host>mythtv.my.domain</Host>

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jm|laptop:

but I'm on Debian, not Ubuntu

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jm|laptop:

also grep ^bind-address /etc/mysql/my.cnf

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gpd:

<DBHostName>192.168.1.21</DBHostName> <-- config.xml

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gpd:

none of this has changed...

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jm|laptop:

I had an ipv6 oddness once too

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gpd:

it is as if the latest mysql is not compatibel with mythtv's connector

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jm|laptop:

I'd have thought mysql's or mythfrontend's log file would be able to shed /some/ light on it in SQL debug

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gpd:

yeah – i'll keep looking

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gpd:

very odd. repaired and optimised mythconverg. turned on mysql logging. restarted mysql (again) – now all fine again.

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gpd:

meh.

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jm|laptop:

gpd: it is often the case that if you remove the jeopardy (e.g. turn on logging) problems will just go away :)

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