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[11:40:46] jarnos_: Does it help in frontend performance that you use 64-bit linux OS instead of 32-bit? I am considering using 32-bit to wear less SSD in my 3GB RAM PC.
[11:44:00] stuarta: the number of cpu bits, is irrelevant to your ssd wear
[11:44:09] stuarta: use 64bit if possible
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[11:46:43] stuarta: i haven't used 32bit OS for at least 10 years by choice, only for hardware that doesn't support 64bit
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[12:38:50] jarnos_: stuarta, 32bit requires less memory, thus lowering the need for swap memory, the use of which wears SSD.
[12:40:27] stuarta: and with 3Gb you won't have that problem
[12:44:39] stuarta: yes, there is a marginally smaller kernel footprint with 32bit vs 64bit, but it's tiny, and it is not worth limiting yourself to 32bit for no reason.
[12:50:12] stuarta: i can check my frontends in 3hrs or so, i have 1 which is 32bit (due to hardware) and only has 2Gb mem, and another which is 64bit with 4Gb ram
[13:12:29] jarnos_: stuarta, good. I think 3GB is plenty for the frontend, but if you also use a lot of other stuff such as Chromium with many tabs open, it may run out of RAM.
[13:14:37] stuarta: might do, but it would still do that on a 32bit system
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[13:43:25] dekarl: jarnos_ the 32bit x86 instruction set is very limited (e.g. wrt to registers) so you really want to use the 64bit instruction set. Also with 3GiB memory you are close to the limit, as some physical address space is needed for memory mapping the graphics card etc. If you want the "best of both worlds" then got x32 ABI, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X32_ABI
[13:45:55] stuarta: i knew somebody would have a better way of explaining it that i did
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[13:46:10] stuarta: dekarl: he just rejoined
[13:47:34] dekarl: doh
[13:47:38] dekarl: jarnos_ https://irc.mythtv.org/ircLog/channel/1/2016- . . . -18:13:43:25
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[15:32:26] jarnos_: dekarl, oh, is there a linux distribution that has x32 ABI support for MythTV?
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[16:03:29] stuarta: jarnos_: so my 64bit system with the frontend up and running still has ~2.5Gb avail memory
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[21:31:42] Toast: I'm about to resurrect an old mythtv setup. Are the current debian packages good, or is there a better option (other source, compiling from scratch)?
[21:31:52] Toast: Debian stable.
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[21:58:38] ikevin: debian's package are not up to date for the are good
[22:06:29] ikevin: -for+so
[22:06:31] ikevin: +y
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[23:30:22] Toast: ikevin: Thanks.
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