Beirdobot, irc.freenode.net

Tuesday, January 5th, 2016, 00:00 UTC

[00:00:11]

natanojl (natanojl!~jonatan@mythtv/developer/natanojl) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[00:00:12]

gregbert:

thank you! i will go with fixes for now

[00:04:35]

ubIx__ (ubIx__!~ulf@p57AD5561.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[00:07:44]

ubIx (ubIx!~ulf@p57AD4CA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)

[00:27:48]

hackman42 (hackman42!~Adium@66.43.16.227) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[00:33:20]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:09:23]

StrvnMrvn (StrvnMrvn!~StrvnMrvn@c-73-22-161-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:09:36]

louisdk (louisdk!~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:12:20]

StrvnMrvn (StrvnMrvn!~StrvnMrvn@c-73-22-161-139.hsd1.il.comcast.net) has quit (Client Quit)

[01:34:22]

louisdk (louisdk!~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[01:37:45]

SteveGoodey (SteveGoodey!~steve@host109-156-128-140.range109-156.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[01:57:04]

[R] ([R]!~rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:32:02]

arescorpio (arescorpio!~arescorpi@186-236-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:45:36]

SteveGoodey (SteveGoodey!~steve@host109-156-128-140.range109-156.btcentralplus.com) has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

[02:46:19]

xris (xris!~xris@mythtv/developer/xris) has quit (Excess Flood)

[02:46:37]

xris (xris!~xris@xris.forevermore.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:46:38]

xris (xris!~xris@xris.forevermore.net) has quit (Changing host)

[02:46:38]

xris (xris!~xris@mythtv/developer/xris) has joined #mythtv-users

[02:46:38]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v xris

[03:14:04]

Esteban (Esteban!~Esteban@203-59-75-31.perm.iinet.net.au) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)

[03:14:05]

kc (kc!~Casper@unaffiliated/kc) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)

[03:14:56]

Esteban (Esteban!~Esteban@203-59-75-31.perm.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:14:59]

kc (kc!~Casper@pool-96-245-231-186.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:14:59]

kc (kc!~Casper@unaffiliated/kc) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:14:59]

kc (kc!~Casper@pool-96-245-231-186.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Changing host)

[03:18:16]

doppo (doppo!doppo@2604:180::e0fc:a07f) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[03:29:50]

geetar (geetar!~kurtgibso@97-82-201-188.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)

[03:31:00]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[03:40:51]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@ppp118-209-208-21.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[03:42:43]

[R] ([R]!~rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[03:46:31]

geetar1 (geetar1!~kurtgibso@97-82-201-188.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:52:39]

strayPuppy (strayPuppy!~vi@unaffiliated/straypuppy) has joined #mythtv-users

[03:54:04]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@58.108.245.195) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:28:23]

troyt (troyt!~troyt@2601:681:4600:3381:44dd:acff:fe85:9c8e) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[04:37:50]

joki (joki!~joki@p5B36D8FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

[04:42:01]

joki (joki!~joki@p5B36CC0D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:45:57]

troyt (troyt!~troyt@2601:681:4600:3381:44dd:acff:fe85:9c8e) has joined #mythtv-users

[04:59:32]

arescorpio (arescorpio!~arescorpi@186-236-16-190.fibertel.com.ar) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[05:14:58]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@58.108.245.195) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)

[05:44:03]

Floppe (Floppe!~Floppe@webmail.tawi.fi) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[05:48:31]

Floppe (Floppe!~Floppe@85.134.55.226) has joined #mythtv-users

[05:54:24]

grumpydevil (grumpydevil!~rudy@2001:610:73e::41) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)

[06:05:59]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@ppp118-209-208-21.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:08:25]

freelock (freelock!~quassel@24-104-126-178-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[06:10:52]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@ppp118-209-208-21.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)

[06:23:42]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@58.108.245.195) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:05:00]

[R] ([R]!~rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has joined #mythtv-users

[07:29:35]

strayPuppy (strayPuppy!~vi@unaffiliated/straypuppy) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[07:59:11]

Bray90820 (Bray90820!~bray90820@173-17-46-117.client.mchsi.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:14:31]

[R] ([R]!~rbox@unaffiliated/rbox) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[08:46:28]

Merlin83b (Merlin83b!~Daniel@office.34sp.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:54:39]

willcooke (willcooke!~willcooke@host-92-2-72-36.as43234.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:54:39]

willcooke (willcooke!~willcooke@ubuntu/member/willcooke) has joined #mythtv-users

[08:54:39]

willcooke (willcooke!~willcooke@host-92-2-72-36.as43234.net) has quit (Changing host)

[09:02:10]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@58.108.245.195) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[09:04:04]

dekarl1 (dekarl1!~dekarl@mythtv/developer/dekarl) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:04:04]

Mode for #mythtv-users by ChanServ!ChanServ@services. : +v dekarl1

[09:07:50]

dekarl (dekarl!~dekarl@mythtv/developer/dekarl) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)

[09:19:18]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@ppp118-209-208-21.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:35:52]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[09:51:10]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[09:53:32]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:09:07]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[10:10:08]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:35:12]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@ppp118-209-208-21.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[10:38:23]

grumpydevil (grumpydevil!~rudy@5ED66F83.cm-7-7b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[10:51:39]

jarnos (jarnos!~jarnos@a88-115-184-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:06:14]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[11:13:21]

wackshead (wackshead!~pete@ppp121-45-205-167.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:17:28]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:33:36]

libsci (libsci!~libsci@unaffiliated/libsci) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:41:07]

SteveGoodey (SteveGoodey!~steve@host109-156-128-140.range109-156.btcentralplus.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[11:56:20]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[12:02:35]

jarnos (jarnos!~jarnos@a88-115-184-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[12:09:47]

ShapeShifter499 (ShapeShifter499!~ShapeShif@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:15:08]

amessina (amessina!~amessina@unaffiliated/amessina) has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

[12:21:01]

wackshead (wackshead!~pete@ppp121-45-205-167.lns20.cbr1.internode.on.net) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[12:29:13]

felix3 (felix3!3ee2fb04@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.226.251.4) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:37:57]

felix3 (felix3!3ee2fb04@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.62.226.251.4) has quit (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)

[12:39:56]

jarnos (jarnos!~jarnos@a88-115-184-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[12:45:11]

Esteban (Esteban!~Esteban@203-59-75-31.perm.iinet.net.au) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[12:45:27]

Esteban (Esteban!~Esteban@203-59-75-31.perm.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:10:58]

Goobersmooch (Goobersmooch!~Goobersmo@72.48.201.32) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:11:41]

Goobersmooch (Goobersmooch!~Goobersmo@72.48.201.32) has quit (Client Quit)

[13:14:56]

Goobersmooch (Goobersmooch!~Goobersmo@72.48.201.42) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:28:24]

bas-t (bas-t!~bas-t@5ED448F9.cm-7-5b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:30:05]

ertyup (ertyup!~chatzilla@195-154-82-165.rev.poneytelecom.eu) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:37:06]

jarnos_ (jarnos_!~jarnos@a88-115-184-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[13:38:46]

ertyup:

hi there

[13:38:48]

ertyup:

anyone ?

[13:46:20]

bas-t:

hi

[13:48:06]

ertyup:

what is mythtv ?

[13:49:10]

bas-t:

Look at https://www.mythtv.org/

[13:51:22]

Esteban (Esteban!~Esteban@203-59-75-31.perm.iinet.net.au) has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)

[13:51:49]

Esteban (Esteban!~Esteban@203-59-75-31.perm.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:05:18]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:09:26]

jarnos:

I hate it, when mythtv freezes and crashes, if I switch to a channel that does not broadcast.

[14:09:41]

ertyup:

seems good

[14:10:08]

ertyup:

now i would like to know if it possible to install on raspberry pI ?

[14:13:32]

Merlin83b:

I'm afraid not, ertyup.

[14:14:28]

ertyup:

is it possible to install kodi on it ?

[14:14:42]

ertyup:

combine kodi with mythtv ?

[14:14:50]

ertyup:

possible ?

[14:15:07]

Merlin83b:

Yep, kodi can play things from a mythtv backend.

[14:17:52]

Merlin83b:

http://kodi.wiki/view/MythTV_PVR

[14:19:44]

ertyup:

now what i would like to know

[14:19:51]

ertyup:

how the recording happen ?

[14:22:20]

ertyup:

i mean when you would like to record 100 channel at time ?

[14:22:43]

Merlin83b:

You'd need 100 tuners to record 100 channels at once...

[14:23:27]

ertyup:

define what is a tuner ?

[14:24:05]

ertyup:

what is a tuner on a iptv ?

[14:24:21]

Merlin83b:

A video caputer device, be that a card in your mythtv backend or anothing device.

[14:24:35]

doppo (doppo!doppo@2604:180::e0fc:a07f) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:24:35]

Merlin83b:

capture, not caputer

[14:24:53]

ertyup:

yeah i know the physical hardware

[14:25:02]

ertyup:

but

[14:25:04]

ertyup:

what is a tuner on a iptv ?

[14:25:04]

doppo (doppo!doppo@2604:180::e0fc:a07f) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[14:25:21]

ertyup:

i mean vtuner exist ?

[14:25:32]

doppo (doppo!doppo@2604:180::e0fc:a07f) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:25:35]

Merlin83b:

Not sure what you mean by "a iptv" but if it's a stream, then there's isn't specific capture hardware.

[14:25:53]

Merlin83b:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IPTV might be useful for you.

[14:27:14]

ertyup:

what i m looking for is :

[14:27:27]

ertyup:

i would like to capture stream per channel

[14:27:42]

ertyup:

how can i do it with mythtv ?

[14:28:12]

Merlin83b:

So you want to constantly record every channel?!

[14:28:34]

ertyup:

yes

[14:29:00]

ertyup:

every available stream by my iptv provider

[14:29:31]

Merlin83b:

I haven't used IPTV at all, but constantly recording everything seems like an odd thing to do.

[14:30:16]

ertyup:

tell me why ?

[14:30:56]

Merlin83b:

Why would you want to?

[14:35:36]

hackman42 (hackman42!~Adium@66.43.16.227) has joined #mythtv-users

[14:35:42]

ertyup:

when you have to 2 interesting program available at time

[14:35:52]

ertyup:

with one setup box

[14:36:01]

ertyup:

how do you do ?

[14:39:39]

dekarl1:

jarnos, which country? is it a DVB service that is "not running"?

[14:40:10]

Merlin83b:

ertyup: You tell your mythtv backend to record both. You need two tuners for that, not 100!

[14:40:13]

jarnos:

dekarl1, FI, yes DVB.

[14:40:50]

Merlin83b:

ertyup: I have three tuners in my backend, for instance. As a result I can record up to 6 things at once (DVB multiplexing set to record two from a multiplex at once)

[14:40:53]

dekarl1:

ertyup: typically you are limited to 1–2 streams of IPTV at the same time

[14:40:59]

dekarl1 is now known as dekarl

[14:41:21]

dekarl:

its unlikely that you can record all (how many, 600?) channels at the same time

[14:42:42]

dekarl:

jarnos, when that happens, can you take a snapshot of the SDT with dvbsnoop? http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/examples/example-sdt.html notice the "running_status"

[14:43:39]

dekarl:

if that happens always when running_status is "not running" (or whatever it is called) then please file a ticket about it. That would be something that a logic could react to, and do something sensible.

[14:45:43]

dekarl:

ertyup: our backend runs on ARM systems with network tuners / IPTV. But most users compile fixes/0.27 themselves. But you can e.g. install latest Ubuntu Mate and add the master/0.28 PPA from Mythbuntu to get an out-of-the-box backend on ARM setup for quick tests. (e.g. if the performance of network / disk IO suit your needs)

[14:46:33]

Merlin83b:

dekarl: Out of interest, would a backend with a USB DVB tuner or two work, too?

[14:47:08]

dekarl:

Merlin83b: in theory yes, but I have given up on the linuxtv DVB drivers in practice

[14:47:27]

dekarl:

just get a network attached DVB tuner and move on :)

[14:47:51]

Merlin83b:

Heh, My DVB-S2 and DVB-T tuners work fine so until something breaks I'll leave them in place :)

[14:47:52]

dekarl:

They got their own shares of open issues with MythTV, but that is something that can be fixed more easily

[14:48:13]

dekarl:

ok, mine had various subtle (and not so subtle) issues.

[14:49:06]

ertyup:

i think you don't get my point

[14:49:17]

dekarl:

but my dad runs a backend (on normal amd64) with 4 USB tuners and it "just works"

[14:49:20]

ertyup:

what i m looking to do is

[14:49:37]

ertyup:

i got one setup box

[14:49:41]

ertyup:

of my provider

[14:49:58]

ertyup:

when i can view 100 channel

[14:50:10]

Merlin83b:

dekarl: I haven't braved USB yet – these are old PCI tuners (not even PCI-E).

[14:50:31]

ertyup:

in additional i have a pc based ip access on 100 CHANNEL

[14:50:48]

ertyup:

if i plan to install mythtv on my pc

[14:51:04]

ertyup:

how to record 2 or 3 channel at time

[14:51:15]

ertyup:

using mythtv ?

[14:51:15]

jarnos_ (jarnos_!~jarnos@a88-115-184-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[14:51:56]

Merlin83b:

ertyup: Have two or three tuners and set what you want recording, not record all 100 all the time!

[14:52:09]

dekarl:

ertyup: if viewing multiple channels at the same works, e.g. with VLC, on the PC, then you can setup MythTV with multiple IPTV recorders sharing the same video source.

[14:52:47]

dekarl:

then set up proper guide data for that video source and let the scheduler do its magic

[14:53:17]

ertyup:

that's right

[14:53:21]

ertyup:

ok i got

[14:53:24]

ertyup:

it

[14:53:37]

ertyup:

now i got an other question

[14:53:56]

ertyup:

using mythtv is it possible to record youtube channel ?

[14:54:26]

ertyup:

i mean when you subscrib to an auther a channel

[14:54:39]

ertyup:

and each time the author upload a video

[14:54:54]

ertyup:

and if you would like to download it automatically

[14:55:14]

ertyup:

is i t possible to do so with mythtv ?

[14:55:59]

dekarl:

I'm not sure if that is permitted, but it sounds like the RSS video feed to recording features of https://github.com/managementboy/mntv

[14:57:40]

ertyup:

excellent

[15:00:58]

dekarl:

Merlin83b: I used a dual DVB-T USB on a PCI carrier board and it had issues with stream errors on one tuner when the channel on the other tuner was changed. Was not so fun to watch recordings made in parallel to a running an active EIT scan. https://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_ . . . ponents_Used

[15:02:41]

Merlin83b:

Hah I used to use those cards, ended up eBaying two of them when I moved house and went all DVB-S2.

[15:03:59]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:04:50]

Merlin83b:

dekarl: I now have an ongoing with a https://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-4000 and a great relationship with it's little brother, a https://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-HD-S2

[15:23:00]

letifosiferrari (letifosiferrari!~letifosif@216.207.42.132) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:24:16]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: pvr4me)

[15:28:21]

jarnos (jarnos!~jarnos@a88-115-184-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[15:29:12]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:34:15]

jnylen (jnylen!~jnylen@unaffiliated/jnylen) has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)

[15:34:45]

jnylen (jnylen!~jnylen@unaffiliated/jnylen) has joined #mythtv-users

[15:38:53]

Esteban (Esteban!~Esteban@203-59-75-31.perm.iinet.net.au) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[15:40:13]

Esteban (Esteban!~Esteban@203-59-75-31.perm.iinet.net.au) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:16:34]

rockstar___ (rockstar___!~rockstar@cpe-74-67-52-54.nycap.res.rr.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:19:50]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: pvr4me)

[16:38:03]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:40:49]

pvr4me_ (pvr4me_!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:41:36]

ertyup:

well now i got an other question

[16:41:45]

ertyup:

anyone there ,

[16:42:15]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)

[16:42:16]

pvr4me_ is now known as pvr4me

[16:45:30]

jpabq_ (jpabq_!~quassel@97-123-146-76.albq.qwest.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[16:47:40]

jpabq (jpabq!~quassel@mythtv/developer/jpabq) has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)

[16:47:50]

ertyup:

?

[16:48:53]

Merlin83b:

ertyup: Always best just to ask the question :)

[16:49:00]

Merlin83b:

People will respond when they're about.

[16:54:05]

ertyup:

well

[16:54:11]

ertyup:

my question is

[16:54:33]

ertyup:

timeshifting feature possible on mythtv ?

[16:55:26]

ertyup:

recording a live on one hour to transmit from to an other hour ?

[16:56:17]

gregbert:

I just upgraded to .27/fixes – and now my artwork and metadata sources are gone (e.g. in mythfrontend->setup->artwork/datasources). any ideas?

[16:56:37]

hackman42:

ertyup: If we share the same definition of "timeshifting", that's precisely what is possible with mythtv.

[16:57:47]

ertyup:

what's wrong with my definition ? how do you call that feature ?

[16:57:53]

gregbert:

MythTV Version : v0.27.5-71-ga62fc0d

[16:58:37]

gregbert:

i compiled from source if that helps... everything else still working

[17:02:14]

ertyup:

ok

[17:02:21]

ertyup:

now i got an other question

[17:03:03]

ertyup:

i m looking for kind of local caching delivery system

[17:03:24]

ertyup:

is that possible to do so with 2 mythtv box ?

[17:05:35]

pvr4me:

ertyup: Myth records stuff on a â€œbackendâ€. The â€œfrontendâ€ (possibly on the same box as the backend) plays the recordings. Is that not what you want?

[17:09:10]

Merlin83b:

ertyup: In fact, all content is timeshifted under mythtv. If you watch "livetv" you're really just watching a recording a few seconds after it was made.

[17:10:44]

gregbert:

when i run configure the source, i get 2 warnings: WARNING: disabling Python bindings; missing MySQLdb (and another one for urlgrabber) – but then it goes on to compile... do others get this?

[17:11:37]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has left #mythtv-users ()

[17:14:36]

geetar1 (geetar1!~kurtgibso@97-82-201-188.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[17:25:01]

dekarl:

gregbert: not sure if its related but the grabbers are written in Python

[17:25:59]

gregbert:

right – and its not able to connect to the database.. i very much think i've found it

[17:26:18]

gregbert:

but no idea how to fix it at the momment, as both urlgrabber and the mysql bindings are installed for python

[17:27:39]

rockstar___ (rockstar___!~rockstar@cpe-74-67-52-54.nycap.res.rr.com) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[17:29:08]

gregbert:

may have found something... on configure line, using --python=/bin/python2 seems to get rid of the errors

[17:29:36]

dekarl:

try ttvdb.py -t?

[17:30:50]

gregbert:

File "./ttvdb.py", line 387

[17:30:50]

gregbert:

print "\nYour current installed tvdb_api.py version is (%s)\n" % tvdb_api.__version__

[17:30:53]

gregbert:

^

[17:30:56]

gregbert:

SyntaxError: invalid syntax

[17:31:00]

gregbert:

forgive the spam, but doesnt seem to be a lot of people talking at moment

[17:31:20]

gregbert:

i am now recompiling using --python=/bin/python2 – i am hopeful

[17:31:35]

dekarl:

mv, configuring so that the python stuff actually gets installed sounds like a plan

[17:32:19]

gregbert:

the pre-compiled one worked well (at least on this aspect) so hopefully i can reproduce using the /fixes version

[17:34:28]

gregbert:

bam – that solved it.

[17:35:14]

gregbert:

here's a more general question – whats the best solution for place-shifting with mythtv? i used to use slingbox but i guess its not needed anymore

[17:35:56]

gregbert:

i.e. watching my mythbackend while away from home

[17:40:43]

dekarl:

gregbert: that's easy, good upstream and a vpn connection

[17:41:46]

gregbert:

well, i've got both. but 6gb/hour recordings will be taxing on my average downstream connection. thats what was nice about slingplayer – it did the compression

[17:42:24]

gregbert:

i'd like to be able to watch on ~100kb/sec connections

[17:42:46]

gregbert:

probably involves some sort of live transcoding.

[17:42:54]

gregbert:

e.g. flowplayer, but thats even too low quality for me

[17:43:25]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:44:36]

dekarl:

gregbert: 100kb/sec, as in 800kbit/s?

[17:44:51]

dekarl:

sounds like 640x360 H.264 to me

[17:46:20]

Merlin83b (Merlin83b!~Daniel@office.34sp.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[17:47:36]

gregbert:

yip.. so i could transcode, wait for it to transcode, then watch it. any live streaming ideas?

[17:48:38]

ertyup:

no its little bit different

[17:50:46]

ertyup:

i would like to cach the video stream

[17:51:07]

ertyup:

from one dummy system to a high performance server

[17:53:32]

dekarl:

gregbert: nothing out of the box. Enhancing mythtranscode to e.g. use the hardware encoder circutery on AMD GPU, Raspberry PI GPU, etc to quickly create a HLS copy would be a nice addition. Patches welcome :D

[17:53:46]

geetar1 (geetar1!~kurtgibso@97-82-201-188.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[17:53:59]

dekarl:

ertyup: system event scripts are your friend

[17:54:41]

dekarl:

e.g. "move a recording somewhere else once it has finished recording" https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Category:MythTV_System_Event_Scripts

[17:54:46]

gregbert:

maybe all that needs to be done is to have flowplayer work at multiple quality settings...

[18:02:52]

dekarl:

I don't know how the mythweb flash streaming works, but its "end of life" for some time now. http dash / http live streaming is the way forward :)

[18:06:20]

geetar1 (geetar1!~kurtgibso@97-82-201-188.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[18:06:30]

geetar1 (geetar1!~kurtgibso@97-82-201-188.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:12:14]

bas-t (bas-t!~bas-t@5ED448F9.cm-7-5b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has quit (Quit: Ex-Chat)

[18:15:46]

ertyup:

ok fine

[18:16:04]

ertyup:

i will try to install mythtv

[18:17:47]

geetar1 (geetar1!~kurtgibso@97-82-201-188.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)

[18:22:17]

natanojl (natanojl!~jonatan@mythtv/developer/natanojl) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:22:37]

geetar1 (geetar1!~kurtgibso@97-82-201-188.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:32:47]

jarnos (jarnos!~jarnos@a88-115-184-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:33:18]

jarnos:

Can you use xvmc instead of vdpau in mythtv?

[18:33:42]

jarnos:

as a playback profile or something?

[18:34:05]

geetar1 (geetar1!~kurtgibso@97-82-201-188.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) has quit (Quit: Leaving.)

[18:45:33]

dekarl:

isn't xvmc dead by now?

[18:45:59]

dekarl:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/XvMC looks like

[18:46:03]

andreaz (andreaz!~andre_000@p4FC56073.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) has joined #mythtv-users

[18:58:22]

letifosi_ (letifosi_!~letifosif@216.207.42.134) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:01:26]

letifosiferrari (letifosiferrari!~letifosif@216.207.42.132) has quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)

[19:02:43]

jarnos (jarnos!~jarnos@a88-115-184-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[19:10:23]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: pvr4me)

[19:11:48]

haux_ (haux_!~kadour@208.84.104.234) has joined #mythtv-users

[19:26:22]

letifosi_ (letifosi_!~letifosif@216.207.42.134) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[19:31:09]

geetar (geetar!~kurtgibso@2602:306:c4ca:6530:5134:8a0c:6d9c:920f) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:02:35]

Goobersmooch (Goobersmooch!~Goobersmo@72.48.201.42) has quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)

[20:08:37]

Goobersmooch (Goobersmooch!~Goobersmo@72.48.201.32) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:09:02]

letifosiferrari (letifosiferrari!~letifosif@216.207.42.134) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:11:43]

letifosiferrari (letifosiferrari!~letifosif@216.207.42.134) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[20:12:19]

letifosiferrari (letifosiferrari!~letifosif@216.207.42.132) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:28:59]

jab416171_ is now known as jab416171

[20:50:56]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[20:51:51]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[20:53:31]

Goobersmooch (Goobersmooch!~Goobersmo@72.48.201.32) has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[20:56:26]

Goobersmooch (Goobersmooch!~Goobersmo@72.48.201.32) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:06:03]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:07:30]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[21:08:22]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:23:58]

ServerSage (ServerSage!~ServerSag@97e1b25a.skybroadband.com) has quit (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[21:32:07]

letifosi_ (letifosi_!~letifosif@216.207.42.134) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:33:21]

haux_ (haux_!~kadour@208.84.104.234) has quit (Quit: Leaving)

[21:35:59]

letifosiferrari (letifosiferrari!~letifosif@216.207.42.132) has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)

[21:42:16]

letifosi_ (letifosi_!~letifosif@216.207.42.134) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[21:42:30]

jarnos (jarnos!~jarnos@a88-115-184-253.elisa-laajakaista.fi) has joined #mythtv-users

[21:48:11]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: pvr4me)

[21:54:26]

letifosiferrari (letifosiferrari!~letifosif@216.207.42.134) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:02:39]

SteveGoodey (SteveGoodey!~steve@host109-156-128-140.range109-156.btcentralplus.com) has quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)

[22:06:44]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:11:44]

pvr4me (pvr4me!~craigtrel@d24-150-182-175.home.cgocable.net) has quit (Quit: pvr4me)

[22:24:32]

Goobersmooch (Goobersmooch!~Goobersmo@72.48.201.32) has quit (Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. ZZZzzzâ€¦)

[22:40:10]

jarnos:

dekarl, as for your question about dvbsnoop, I don't quite understand it, but maybe I'll continue with the issue some day, when I have time.

[22:42:54]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@ppp118-209-208-21.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[22:43:40]

dekarl:

jarnos: when that happens in livetv, can you go to the backend and run "dvbsnoop -n 1 0x11" on the dvb adapter that is being used? Then look at the entry for the channel that is causing the issue and inspect the contents of running_status.

[22:44:03]

dekarl:

it is possible for channels to be signalled as "exists, but is not broadcasting right now"

[22:45:34]

dekarl:

on our DVB-T some channels share the bandwidth, but they are transmitted as one tv channel that switched contents. other countries have two channels, but only one at a time is "running"

[22:46:41]

dekarl:

If this is the case for you, then we may be able to detect that automatically and work around the issue

[22:50:08]

jarnos:

dekarl, yes, I think the channel exists, but is not broadcasting currently. Mythfrontend should not freeze for it.

[22:51:19]

dekarl:

I agree, mythfrontend should not freeze when switching to a channel that is not running.

[22:52:29]

dekarl:

If you find the time a bug report with the result from dvbsnoop and the frontend/backend logfile would be appreciated. (not sure which logfile contains the relevant information and if there is additional flags to set, to capture the relevant information)

[22:54:24]

jarnos:

dekarl, In Finland there are number of channels packed together. E.g. the channel Alfa in A pack freezes mythfrontend: http://www.digita.fi/kuluttajille/tv

[22:57:50]

jarnos:

dekarl, I don't know how to report bugs about mythtv, except that I could report using ubuntu-bug to launchpad.net.

[22:58:43]

dekarl:

jarnos: the reporting part is documented at https://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/TicketHowTo

[23:00:54]

dekarl:

oh, I see AlfaTV SD is good for testing :) runs only from 20:00 to 22:30 every day according to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television_in_F . . . B-T_Channels

[23:02:12]

dekarl:

jarnos: do you use DVB-T2? It appears that Alfa is the only free to air channel that goes off air. You can mark it as invisible, so its not used. (not sure how that works in livetv though. worth a try)

[23:03:31]

jarnos:

dekarl, no, I don't have a DVB-T2 tuner. I am not sure, if my hardware can handle DVB-T2 playback.

[23:03:33]

letifosiferrari (letifosiferrari!~letifosif@216.207.42.134) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[23:04:09]

letifosiferrari (letifosiferrari!~letifosif@216.207.42.132) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:04:31]

marlo_ (marlo_!~mark@static-71-170-246-90.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) has quit (Remote host closed the connection)

[23:04:38]

dekarl:

hm, if you don't need alfa you can still set it invisible / remove it to work around the hangs short term

[23:04:40]

jarnos:

dekarl, Yes, I could mark it as invisible in mythbackend setup, but that would not fix the bug.

[23:13:12]

jarnos:

dekarl, does that "dvbsnoop -n 1 0x11" give information about all channels or just the A group or Alfa channel?

[23:14:39]

dekarl:

jarnos: it will likely give information about the A group only when run against the A group's transport.

[23:17:53]

jarnos:

dekarl, and the command you gave does that or what?

[23:18:36]

jarnos:

As for making channels invisible, is there a shortcut key in the channel editor. It is not intuitive. Takes several steps to disable a channel.

[23:20:00]

dekarl:

wrt disabling, I always just use Mythweb's channel editor

[23:20:33]

jarnos:

dekarl, I have no idea how to run against some transport.

[23:20:35]

dekarl:

yes, the command grabs one section (-n 1) of the ServiceDescriptionTable (transmitted on PID 0x11)

[23:21:11]

jarnos:

dekarl, PID of what is 0x11?

[23:21:12]

dekarl:

the easiest is to just enter livetv on a channel of that transport and then run it against the adapter that you are using

[23:21:45]

dekarl:

the SDT table, with its "running" flag, is transmitted on PID 0x11 on all DVB transports

[23:30:44]

kukks (kukks!~Guenter@samba/team/kukks) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:39:07]

blah_ (blah_!~blah@ppp118-209-87-144.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) has joined #mythtv-users

[23:40:38]

jarnos:

dekarl, I have now output of the snoop command

[23:40:57]

jarnos:

dekarl, is there some relevant information?

[23:42:48]

Roklobotomy (Roklobotomy!~blah@ppp118-209-208-21.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net) has quit (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)

[23:44:38]

jarnos:

dekarl, maybe I pastebin it later.

[23:45:15]

jarnos:

I mean tomorrow.

[23:57:07]

marlo_ (marlo_!~mark@static-71-170-246-90.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) has joined #mythtv-users

MythLogBot@irc.freenode.net :: #mythtv-users

Current users (129):