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AussieFello:

is mythtv only a gnome thing? or can i run it on kubuntu without much extra hassle?

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Hydr0p0nX:

can run it under any desktop

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AussieFello:

that's the question

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[R]:

AussieFello: it has nothing to do with any DE

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AussieFello:

most of the documents ive found on mythtv relate to ubuntu for some reason :/ ?

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AussieFello:

is it easier using ubuntu with myth?

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AussieFello:

i google... i youtube

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AussieFello:

and as of recently.. i irc

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AussieFello:

oops

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AussieFello:

wrong channel

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AussieFello:

my appologies

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AussieFello:

[R] so using ubuntu wont make mythtv setup easier?

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AussieFello:

there's no advantage>

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AussieFello:

?

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[R]:

um...

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[R]:

as long as you pick a dist that has packages

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[R]:

it doesnt matter what the dist is

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AussieFello:

most of the documentation ive seen are ubuntu docs

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AussieFello:

im wondering how much harder it'd be with something differnet to the docs

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[R]:

myth is myth

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[R]:

but if you are worried

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AussieFello:

yesterday i bought a new tuner card that is supported

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[R]:

than use ubuntu

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AussieFello:

i dont like unity

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[R]:

so dont use unity

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Hydr0p0nX:

mythbuntu works

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AussieFello:

thnx Hydr0p0nX

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AussieFello:

ill google it

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AussieFello:

ok from my research mythbuntu isnt a real desktop :/

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tgm4883:

AussieFello: what do you mean?

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AussieFello:

mythbuntu only does media.. you cant say edit a word file in it

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[R]:

ubuntu is ubuntu

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[R]:

you can install any program you want

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AussieFello:

but mythbuntu is differnet

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[R]:

no

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[R]:

mythbuntu is ubuntu with xfce and it comes with mythtv installed

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[R]:

vs installing normal ubunut, then installing xfce, then installing mythtv

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[R]:

or install xubuntu, and skipping the part about installing xfce

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AussieFello:

ah ok.. my misinterpretation

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AussieFello:

i must have been confuse

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AussieFello:

d

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AussieFello:

does mythbuntu come with everything needed? or will i still need to download from other repositories?

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AussieFello:

for tv playback i mena

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AussieFello:

mean

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[R]:

it comes with mythtv

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[R]:

mythtv records and plays tv

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AussieFello:

so i wont need extra backend files?

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[R]:

huh?

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AussieFello:

mythtv has back end files and front end files from what i've researched

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AussieFello:

will using mythbuntu make is that much easier to run mythtv?

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[R]:

AussieFello: as i already stated

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[R]:

[08:45:21] <[R]> as long as you pick a dist that has packages

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[R]:

[08:45:24] <[R]> it doesnt matter what the dist is

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AussieFello:

[R] but im wondering if it's worth while going with mythbuntu or say kubuntu

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[R]:

just use whatever you want

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[R]:

it doesnt make a difference

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[R]:

ubuntu is ubuntu

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AussieFello:

ah yep ok

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AussieFello:

on a seperate note... ive bought a new external harddrive that i want to load up with different linux OS's... my question is — is it straight forward to install more than 2 OS's on the one harddrive???

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AussieFello:

is it the same process as installing 2?

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AussieFello:

not sure if you know

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AussieFello:

:/

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AussieFello:

i've been on google but havnt found any definitive information

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[R]:

as long as its a sane dist

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[R]:

you install the first, it installs grub

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[R]:

you install the second, it installs grub, notices the first, and adds an entry for the 1st

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[R]:

repeat

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AussieFello:

so i can install 4 os's on the one harddrive?

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AussieFello:

grub will handle it?

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AussieFello:

just to be absolutely suer

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[R]:

assuming you dont pick something stupid

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[R]:

for a dist

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** enyc notices lots of coming and going! **

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AussieFello:

hello enyc

[09:36:09]

AussieFello:

im here with you brother

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AussieFello:

share the love

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enyc:

AussieFello: =)

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enyc:

AussieFello: wondering wheres' the right place to get help iwth ljalves tbs6280/etc drivers? mysterious "ln: missing file operand" and failure...

[09:39:08]

AussieFello:

here's the right place..

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AussieFello:

is there any documentation for your device?

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enyc:

AussieFello: hrrm... linuxtv wiki.. one moment

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AussieFello:

good starts

[09:41:37]

AussieFello:

are you 100% sure that your tuner is compatible?

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enyc:

https://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TBS628 . . . en_source.29

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AussieFello:

with your distro and kernel?

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enyc:

well i can't get the driver to compile at all ;p

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enyc:

e.g. mythbuntu 14.04 LTS system with backported kernel

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AussieFello:

maybe you might have to think about getting a tuner that is more widely supported my friend

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enyc:

(current checkout from git requires kernel 4.x, so linux-generic-lts-wily orwhatever it is with associated headers in use)

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enyc:

i've got those too, for DVB

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enyc:

but this is DVB-T2 special card

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enyc:

and if you read wiki above its' known to work

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enyc:

but I can' get the driver to build

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AussieFello:

any links to the drivers in the wiki?

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AussieFello:

sounds like you might have the wrong kernel? possibly

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AussieFello:

?

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AussieFello:

so you've found the driver and it throws an error

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enyc:

no, i've tried with vairous older kenels and itn complians

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enyc:

'install right kernel and it stops complaining but then fails with a different mysterious error

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enyc:

see link above, it linuks to the driver

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AussieFello:

that was quite a large wiki

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enyc:

see "these instructions are taken from _here_" in the open source driver link

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enyc:

under "building the open source driver" there is a _here_ link

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AussieFello:

ill have a look

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AussieFello:

how far through do you get befor the error?

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AussieFello:

can you build the driver

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AussieFello:

?

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AussieFello:

where is the error?

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enyc:

ill show you in a mo... not very far in

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enyc:

hrrm

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enyc:

i ithink i'm going to re-checkout whole lot soon jus t obe sure

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enyc:

anyway... make dir DIR=../media is fine ... just redoing it now...

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enyc:

make distclean is fine

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enyc:

make is wherethe world comes to an end

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AussieFello:

what's the error?

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AussieFello:

what happens if you do a sudo make install?

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enyc:

not very far in, applying pactches... warning that you do't have full kernel sources but no t a problem for building

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enyc:

warning that this is the V$L-DVB backport tree

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AussieFello:

what os are you on?

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enyc:

reated default (all yes) .config file

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enyc:

./scripts/make_myconfig.pl

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enyc:

make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/compile/src/media_build/v4l'

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enyc:

make[1]: Entering directory `/home/compile/src/media_build/v4l'

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enyc:

perl scripts/make_config_compat.pl /lib/modules/4.2.0-22-generic/build ./.myconfig ./config-compat.h

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enyc:

creating symbolic links...

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enyc:

ln: missing file operand

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enyc:

followed by err orrer in make exiting etc etc

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AussieFello:

so you get this error after entering "make"

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enyc:

yes

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AussieFello:

please wait here for others to see

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AussieFello:

i must admit I'm not much of a linux guru :/

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AussieFello:

it said you had a kernel issue though yes?

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enyc:

looking ah the link and github, there are some issues listed

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enyc:

AussieFello: no, it says i don't hav ethe sources which mould xe needed if runnig menuconfig etc. but the headers are fine to just compile the driver (a warning)

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AussieFello:

tbh im a little overwhelmed

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AussieFello:

what os are you on?

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enyc:

AussieFello: in this case, mythbuntu // ubuntu 14.04 lts derived

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AussieFello:

what kernel does that ship with?

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enyc:

3.13 i think (yes, i've tried this amongst toher versions)

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enyc:

current checkout from the git tree above, semes to insist on a 4.x kernel being installed

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AussieFello:

nbow..what kernel does your tuner work with?

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AussieFello:

:)

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AussieFello:

so you solved it?

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enyc:

the DVB tuners i have work with all, but the 4.x kernel is needod for current checkout of the ljalves driver as above

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AussieFello:

good??

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enyc:

(needd for the DVB-T2 cards)

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AussieFello:

so upgrade the kernel?

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enyc:

i've DONE all that, the driver won't build and i don't know where to ask

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AussieFello:

good??

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AussieFello:

here is as good a place as any

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AussieFello:

make sure you got the right kernel

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AussieFello:

$ uname -r

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enyc:

AussieFello: 4.2.0-22-generic

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enyc:

AussieFello: mysteriously, new checkout sorts it

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sunkan:

Some of my DVB-S EIT information is in a different language than I want. Is it possible that there's multiple languages in the EIT and that I am able to choose the correct language?

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enyc:

where is the best articelo on undershanidng tunels vs sources vs connections etc etc.....

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enyc:

im my case i have 4 tuners, 2 of which have extra channels the others don't have

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enyc:

(DVB-T2/HDTV channels)

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enyc:

i'm guessing the latter 2 need a different source to the rest of them

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enyc:

but not really sure what is autodandeled

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enyc:

auto-handled

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