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Tuesday, November 24th, 2015, 00:30 UTC
[00:30:23] kusznir: where do I set a global time offiset? My cable company runs about 4 minutes late on everything (all channels).
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[01:23:05] membiblio: kusznir – you can set each program to record 4 minutes later – but I don't know about a Global -
[01:23:34] kusznir: Is there a way to set the default for recording rules?
[01:24:14] membiblio: that does sound familiar – though I'm not sure how to accomplish :)
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[21:57:15] slickrick: hi. i'm making a little script to drive the mythtv telnet interface on port 6546. i simply need to get mythtv to livetv and a certain channel.
[21:57:48] slickrick: i'd like to have livetv start on the channel i want rather than changing channels in my script.
[21:58:21] slickrick: i've tried updating the startchan for that card on the cardinput table and then doing jump livetv but it does not seem to work.
[21:58:32] slickrick: is the starting channel set in some other place?
[21:59:00] Shadow__X: normally it starts on the last channel you used
[21:59:06] Shadow__X: its setup in the backend
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[21:59:43] Shadow__X: i personally don't know if you can start live tv on another channel that what is in there but you might
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[22:01:27] slickrick: yes. i saw that setting mythtv-setup but the description indicates its updated on every successful channel change.
[22:01:47] slickrick: i tried updating the value via sql and then starting livetv but it doesn't work.
[22:02:16] slickrick: so i wondered if the last channel was stored in another location. perhaps related to the user / host that is running the frontend.
[22:03:01] slickrick: i was hoping to change the starting channel via sql then have my script push the frontend into livetv and it'd hopefully be on that channel when it started playback.
[22:04:45] Shadow__X: have you looked through the calls to see if there is a way to change the channel without manually modifying the sql
[22:05:06] Shadow__X: iirc it is not preferred to directly edit the sql
[22:07:30] slickrick: when you say calls do you mean the commands in the telnet interface? if so, there is no option to start livetv on channel x.
[22:07:46] slickrick: i'd have to start livetv and then change channels by sending the channel number using the key command.
[22:07:47] Shadow__X: can't you just start live tv then change the channel?
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[22:08:09] slickrick: i can just trying to avoid a step. the tuner is an hdpvr and changing channels is pretty slow.
[22:08:38] Shadow__X: when i was using an hdpvr i used firwire to the stb to change channels
[22:08:45] Shadow__X: that was pretty quick
[22:08:50] slickrick: can't do that due to my provider and stb. =[
[22:08:55] Shadow__X: have you tried to speed up the channel change?
[22:09:07] Shadow__X: slickrick: have you tried asking for a stb with firewire?
[22:09:26] slickrick: it'd be easier to fit my head into a thimble.
[22:09:51] Shadow__X: so either small head or large thimble?
[22:10:23] slickrick: my provider is terrible, the stb's are terrible as is the service is. it's just what i'm stuck with.
[22:10:30] Shadow__X: gotcha
[22:10:38] slickrick: hah... no the timble is small and my head is normal size. eg. an impossible situation. =]
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[22:13:37] slickrick: i might look at it from another angle. jump to livetv, see if i can check the current channel and then if it's not on the right channel send the key command to put it on the one i want.
[22:14:15] Shadow__X: that might work better, is taking a couple seconds when you first start live tv a big deal?
[22:14:27] Shadow__X: a normal stb takes a littl
[22:14:28] Shadow__X: e
[22:14:54] slickrick: well its certainly not the end of the world.
[22:15:01] slickrick: just trying to make it as efficient as possible.
[22:15:28] Shadow__X: gotcha
[22:15:37] slickrick: so my user (read: wife) doesn't have to wait as long thereby increasing the WAF. =]
[22:15:52] Shadow__X: lol gotcha
[22:16:04] Shadow__X: is it slower than a normal stb though?
[22:17:55] slickrick: i'm not sure if it'd be slower than an STB controlled with firewire. probably the same.
[22:18:00] slickrick: in either case you need to give the HDPVR a lot of time to lock on to the signal when you change channels.
[22:18:26] Shadow__X: i don't remember what time outs i had set
[22:18:36] slickrick: assuming we're comparing stb connected to an hdpvr controlled via IR, vs the same but controlled via firewire.
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[22:18:41] slickrick: my kingdom for a cable card ...
[22:19:01] slickrick: and no, my provider does not offer those either.
[22:19:25] Shadow__X: i was thinking more about using the stb directly, no hdpvr
[22:19:45] Shadow__X: i know my hdpvr took a couple seconds but i didn't think it was a big deal ymmv obviously
[22:19:58] Shadow__X: also are you in the us? i thought it was mandated for them to carry cablecards
[22:20:04] slickrick: Canada.
[22:20:22] slickrick: yeah the FCC is way more forward thinking than the CRTC here.
[22:20:49] slickrick: like i think they mandate that local channels there are unencrypted too. not the case here.
[22:20:53] slickrick: it's all encrypted....
[22:21:39] Shadow__X: comcast switched all channels over to encrypted here
[22:21:40] Shadow__X: ...
[22:21:49] Shadow__X: and they are charging like 7.50 for a cable card...
[22:21:57] Shadow__X: but still better options than no cablecard
[22:23:12] slickrick: perhaps its changed since i read about it the mandate for unecrypted channels.
[22:23:28] slickrick: some googling says it changed around 2012.
[22:23:44] slickrick: i would gladly pay for a cable card. i ahve no problem paying for my content.
[22:23:56] Shadow__X: yup same here
[22:23:57] slickrick: but the cable operator here wants to only use their own equipment.
[22:24:05] Shadow__X: i hate it when they make it so difficult to get what you pay for though
[22:25:53] slickrick: i agree totally. happy to pay for the content, just let me consume it the way i want.
[22:26:04] Shadow__X: uhuh
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[22:26:34] Shadow__X: imo thats one of the reasons netflix and iptv stuff is gaining so much momentum
[22:26:50] Shadow__X: they cater to how we want to watch content (to a certain degree)
[22:32:02] slickrick: yeah giving users reasonable choice at a fair price.
[22:32:32] slickrick: if itunes taught companies anything its that if you offer things at fair prices people will pay for the convenience.
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