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[00:23:39] twiggy2cents: I am trying to setup airplay. I have put the RSA key in the file and I can see my frontend on my phone and connect to it, but nothing will play over it. I have tried a youtube video and some music with no change
[00:23:49] twiggy2cents: I dont see any connection messages in the frontend log
[00:24:16] twiggy2cents: It does say that it successfully registered the bojour service
[00:37:57] twiggy2cents: it is .27-fixes and ipv4 separate FE/BE
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[00:41:57] twiggy2cents: also IOS 9
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[17:39:43] arrrghhh: Hello all. I have ubuntu server running my backend, and I'm on 0.28... From what I've gleaned I really should be on 0.27. What's the 'best' method for reinstalling? I don't really care about my db or recorded shows, would just like some stable myth. .28 isn't that unstable, I just have issues setting up recorded shows and then modifying them in the webui
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[18:52:10] qu: arrrghhh: Well there's MythBuntu. But I install the CentOS packages.
[18:53:41] arrrghhh: qu, I don't want mythbuntu as I already have ubuntu server installed (no DE)
[18:53:54] arrrghhh: I'd prefer to keep it that way as well... the server is headless, no point in having a DE
[18:54:13] qu: So purge what you have and install the packages.
[18:54:51] arrrghhh: qu, I guess I was hoping for a process... like I assume I need to blow away the DB in mysql?
[18:55:21] qu: Yes, it'll be a newer schema
[18:55:31] qu: That shoud be in the wiki.
[18:55:38] arrrghhh: older*
[18:55:45] arrrghhh: I looked, will take another gander
[18:55:53] tgm4883: Also add the Mythbuntu repos
[18:56:08] arrrghhh: tgm4883, yea I have the repo for mythbuntu for .28
[18:56:40] tgm4883: arrrghhh: remove that and add the one for 0.27
[18:57:06] arrrghhh: yea I'll have to look around for that...
[18:57:23] arrrghhh: but do I just purge the package and remove the DB? Anything else I should be concerned about?
[18:57:37] tgm4883: Where did you find the 0.28 repo
[18:59:45] tgm4883: You should just need to purge the packages and remove the db, then install the 0.27 packages
[19:03:00] arrrghhh: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.28/ubuntu trusty main
[19:03:16] arrrghhh: is what I use. I assume I can just change the path to 0.27 and be done?
[19:03:22] arrrghhh: well, as far as the repo goes :)
[19:03:34] tgm4883: Yea you can
[19:04:34] tgm4883: Did you just find that repo on launchpad?
[19:04:40] arrrghhh: yea I believe so
[19:04:54] arrrghhh: been a while since I've installed myth to be honest...
[19:05:01] tgm4883: OK
[19:05:25] tgm4883: Just was wondering if someone was recommending that some where
[19:05:59] arrrghhh: well people were recommending using the mythbuntu repo's instead of the ancient version that comes with the default ubuntu repo's
[19:06:18] arrrghhh: whether it was an article I read or someone's suggestion here, I do not recall specifically :)
[19:06:52] tgm4883: Right. I was just wondering if someone was recommending. 0.28 specifically
[19:07:14] arrrghhh: No I think that was my own stupid decision to try the latest
[19:07:20] tgm4883: Ah OK
[19:07:29] arrrghhh: it works really well for the most part, just have that issue with setting up recordings
[19:07:36] arrrghhh: hopefully it'll work in .27
[19:08:12] arrrghhh: looking at the wiki I'll need to install a mythweb plugin in order to get a webui to manage it tho
[19:20:12] arrrghhh: tgm4883, which package do I purge? mythtv-backend?
[19:20:25] arrrghhh: http://hastebin.com/acazeqavin.hs
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[19:25:42] tgm4883: arrrghhh: well if you are reverting to 0.27, you'd need to purge all the mythtv packages
[19:26:42] arrrghhh: ah listing all of them did seem to give me more
[19:27:00] arrrghhh: http://hastebin.com/gizekiyole.axapta
[19:27:09] arrrghhh: just looking ot make sure there isn't anything there I need...
[19:28:26] arrrghhh: oh well here goes something
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[19:37:24] arrrghhh: I always forget that mythtv-setup requires a gui... forwarding X is such a pain.
[19:40:41] Roklobsta: eh i just vnc in
[19:41:32] arrrghhh: Roklobsta, no DE
[19:41:36] arrrghhh: headless machine
[19:41:47] Roklobsta: arrrrrghhhh!\
[19:41:50] arrrghhh: lol
[19:42:06] stuarta: i always use ssh's X forwarding
[19:42:07] arrrghhh: I really like running this thing headless... myth has been the only PITA
[19:42:24] arrrghhh: stuarta, it's so slow even when I'm on a LAN. Right now I have 1.5mbit internet and it's painful...
[19:42:35] arrrghhh: on a LAN it's at least tolerable
[19:42:39] stuarta: arrrghhh: that's one of the reasons behind the backend webserver. still a work in progress
[19:42:52] Roklobsta: well forward X11 before Wayland arrives.
[19:43:18] arrrghhh: lolwut
[19:43:32] arrrghhh: I'm doing that now. Just going to take me a while to get all the settings configured
[19:43:33] Roklobsta: isn't wayland gonna give X11 the flick?
[19:44:02] stuarta: i doubt it
[19:44:21] Roklobsta: mkay. well, i didn't forward X11 since the 90's, I am sure of it.
[19:44:32] arrrghhh: making the backend require x11 is a little silly
[19:44:55] arrrghhh: but I'm sure most people have a all-in-one setup with backend and frontend on the same machine
[19:45:00] stuarta: the backend doesn't, just the setup unfortunately
[19:45:17] arrrghhh: well that's what I mean
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[19:45:18] Roklobsta: arrrghhh: install nx, it'll be faster than raw x11
[19:45:38] arrrghhh: Roklobsta, I messed with that years ago and was never successful. Is it easier now?
[19:46:12] Roklobsta: well I have used nx in the past, maybe 2008 was the last time. when it worked it was great – it seemed a bit dicky though.
[19:47:57] stuarta: i love a good technical term like that "a bit dicky"
[19:48:08] Roklobsta: OK, it was rooted.
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[19:51:11] arrrghhh: nx seems to require a DE
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[19:56:59] Roklobsta: lets see.
[19:57:12] Roklobsta: well, you using .debs or .somethingelse?
[19:57:23] arrrghhh: .deb is fine
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[20:01:38] Roklobsta: how did mbe install without dragging DE baggage with it?
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[20:02:35] Roklobsta: i haven't updated mythtv-trunk .debs for 6 weeks everything is working so well right now.
[20:02:41] Roklobsta: WAF has never been higher
[20:03:09] Roklobsta: i am worried stuarta will break something.
[20:03:55] stuarta: can't break anything if you don't change it :-p
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[20:04:44] Roklobsta: here's what i mean by dicky. "Note: Running FreeNX as server on Ubuntu with the free "NX Client for Windows" from NoMachine on a Windows workstation is working fine, except resuming sessions. "
[20:05:09] Roklobsta: can't resume then half the point is gone.
[20:05:11] stuarta: Roklobsta: there's an ffmpeg merge pending, that'll break shit
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[20:05:30] Roklobsta: i can't wait! Actually I can't better h.265 can only be better
[20:05:40] stuarta: pfft
[20:06:36] Roklobsta: i am ruminating on upgrading the motherboard from 7 year old Athlonx2
[20:06:54] Roklobsta: not sure how it'd help though....
[20:07:03] Roklobsta: i just want to blow some money and waste some time
[20:07:14] stuarta: just buy a new one, and migrate
[20:07:34] Roklobsta: migrate = swap motherboard out, reboot, keep on trucking.
[20:08:18] Roklobsta: i don't expect my current myth install to give me any shit if i swap the mobo. kernel/nvidia/sata should all just work like nothing happened.
[20:08:21] Roklobsta: famous last words.
[20:09:03] Roklobsta: Celeron or i3?
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[20:10:16] Roklobsta: arrrghhh: here, using NX was never so easy! https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[20:11:17] Roklobsta: i swear, linuxy things are a conspiracy to keep people like my mother away from computers.
[20:11:19] arrrghhh: yea looking at that already... do not want DE :P
[20:11:45] arrrghhh: I'll just suffer thru the x forwarding... hopefully I can complete the setup
[20:11:46] Roklobsta: my eyes glzaed over looking at that guide. ridiculous.
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[21:44:57] arrrghhh: wow... almost done with general :/
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[23:11:43] twiggy2cents: Is airplay broken with .27-fixes and ios 9?
[23:12:50] twiggy2cents: I can see mythtv on my phone and connect to it, but it doesnt play any music or any videos. I see nothing in the logs about a connection with my phone, nor do I see any errors on my phone or logs/fe about playback
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[23:21:21] arrrghhh: are there no alternatives to mythtv-setup being a gui? this is... maddening
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[23:31:31] qu: arrrghhh: Use nomachine's NX.
[23:32:33] arrrghhh: qu, I need a DE for that
[23:33:01] qu: arrrghhh: This is the 21st century.
[23:33:21] arrrghhh: qu, there's no monitor plugged into this rig... I do NOT want a DE.
[23:33:40] arrrghhh: power and network are all that are plugged into it. worked great until I try to reconfigure anything on myth
[23:33:49] qu: Well it must only be a backend then.
[23:33:54] arrrghhh: indeed
[23:34:03] arrrghhh: but why do I need a gui setup for the backend?
[23:34:14] qu: So aim mythtv-setup at the backend from your client machine.
[23:34:25] arrrghhh: I would figure there is at least an option to not use a gui
[23:34:42] arrrghhh: I'm forwarding X over SSH. It's just... beyond painful because I'm not on the LAN
[23:35:15] qu: Personally I set up a reverse SSH tunnel to present the backend's port on my client as if it were running locally.
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