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Monday, October 12th, 2015, 00:03 UTC

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arrrghhh:

I'm trying to manage my recordings on the webui in .28... I know it's beta still, so perhaps not everything works... but I'm finding nothing works. does .27 have a functional webui that can manage recordings?

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arrrghhh:

hmmmm. trying to make a simple change has never been more difficult lol. just wanted to update the channel on a recording...

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arrrghhh:

is there any way to setup a recording WITHOUT the program guide? for example, I'd like to set a recurring weekly recording for a set channel/time

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eula-m1:

OK so I did a fresh reinstall

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eula-m1:

What am I supposed to do

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eula-m1:

Howdy steve-goodey.

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eula-m1:

I'm back lol

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arrrghhh:

eula-m1, that quick start guide he linked earlier seems good

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arrrghhh:

did you follow it?

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eula-m1:

Well it took a day to install

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arrrghhh:

jeez really? that seems excessive

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arrrghhh:

but doesn't answer my question either :)

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eula-m1:

I sent the day outside shoveling rocks then took a girl to the movies and ate a hamburger. Just got home. This is my second attempt at trying to get this thing to work.

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arrrghhh:

ok......

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arrrghhh:

I would definitely read thru that guide

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arrrghhh:

and the wiki is also a great resource

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eula-m1:

Much appreciated arrrghhh

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arrrghhh:

np, let us know if you get stuck somewhere. be as descriptive as possible

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arrrghhh:

I'm thinking I need to somehow purge my .28 install for .27...

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EULAreader:

Back

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EULAreader:

Dropped the connection

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EULAreader:

OK first error

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EULAreader:

Setting static ip

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EULAreader:

It doesn't work at all

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arrrghhh:

EULAreader, what do you mean "doesn't work at all"?

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EULAreader:

I set static ip...can't ping gmail.com

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arrrghhh:

are you setting an IP outside of your DHCP range and the IP isn't used elsewhere?

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EULAreader:

Yes that's what I did

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arrrghhh:

try to ping 8.8.8.8

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arrrghhh:

might be a DNS thing (you did define a DNS server right?)

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EULAreader:

I defined the router as my dns server

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EULAreader:

The number worked

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arrrghhh:

so yea it's a DNS issue

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arrrghhh:

if you're not accessing the 'net from this machine, won't really matter

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EULAreader:

Won't updates fail?

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arrrghhh:

good point

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arrrghhh:

try using opendns as your dns servers

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arrrghhh:

208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220

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EULAreader:

Back to dhcp

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EULAreader:

Static can be done last.

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arrrghhh:

I would do this first but ok

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arrrghhh:

unless you just want to setup dhcp reservations in your router, another option

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EULAreader:

Hmm true.

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EULAreader:

I don't manager router

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arrrghhh:

it's not your router?

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EULAreader:

My dads. I don't have login.

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EULAreader:

It's our family router

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arrrghhh:

well I'm sure he would be able to help if you asked but OK

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arrrghhh:

try the opendns addresses, should work

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EULAreader:

. It's not saving. Need 2 reboot.

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EULAreader:

I have the dumbest issues ever

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EULAreader:

I can't get basic stuff to work :(

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arrrghhh:

just gotta take a deep breath and break it down

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arrrghhh:

if you're not familiar with linux (or ubuntu) this may be a daunting task for you

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EULAreader:

I do have some linux exp

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EULAreader:

Just things never work

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arrrghhh:

well take a deep breath and break down the issue

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arrrghhh:

:)

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EULAreader:

OK will ping gmail.com works

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EULAreader:

Thanks for open dns

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EULAreader:

When it changes I'm done lol

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arrrghhh:

opendns is awesome, you can sign up for a free account and have your dad update your router

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arrrghhh:

then he can easily filter out naughty sites :P

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EULAreader:

Aye

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EULAreader:

I don't go there.

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EULAreader:

Do I have to make a schedules direct account

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EULAreader:

It says it costs money

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EULAreader:

Do I set my card for mpg2 or mjepg

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arrrghhh:

it does. it's not required... but EIT sucks just FYI

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EULAreader:

I want to do manual recording

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arrrghhh:

so if you want to depend on the program guide, schedules direct is best

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EULAreader:

I don't want to use programming guide at all

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arrrghhh:

I haven't figured out how to do that on .28, maybe it's easier on .27 dunno

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EULAreader:

Is there a manual modea?

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EULAreader:

I have no idea what version I'm on

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arrrghhh:

I asked about this earlier, no response

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arrrghhh:

I would hope .27

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EULAreader:

Cool

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EULAreader:

So ya well I don't have an account

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EULAreader:

How cheap is it

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arrrghhh:

it says on the website lol

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arrrghhh:

$25/yr

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EULAreader:

Our tv requires a cox box to run

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EULAreader:

It's some kinda new digital method.

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arrrghhh:

oh I'm not sure myth will work at all then... unless you have a cablecard that can be placed into your capture card

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EULAreader:

I want to use it to just capture.

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arrrghhh:

(I have 0 experience with cable, I use OTA)

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EULAreader:

Well can't it just capture what's being output?

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EULAreader:

If I use compsite

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EULAreader:

Or component

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arrrghhh:

no idea

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arrrghhh:

I use OTA...

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EULAreader:

I will try that too

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EULAreader:

No antenna lo

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EULAreader:

So guess it won't work

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arrrghhh:

what are you using to capture?

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EULAreader:

Some capture card

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arrrghhh:

pci card, hd home run etc?

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EULAreader:

It's very old

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EULAreader:

Pci card an old hapoauge

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arrrghhh:

you don't know the model of the card?

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EULAreader:

It's /dev/video0

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EULAreader:

Nope

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EULAreader:

It says win tv

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arrrghhh:

well I can't really google for you then

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EULAreader:

Bt878 haupage bttv

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EULAreader:

Does that help

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arrrghhh:

you can try and see what happens

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arrrghhh:

hm that is the chip type... lots of cards seem to use iyt

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arrrghhh:

you did check before purchasing it right?

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EULAreader:

Hmmm

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EULAreader:

It was bought 10+ years ago

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arrrghhh:

http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge

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EULAreader:

WinTV-

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EULAreader:

PVR-150

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EULAreader:

Well ya.....hmmm...maybe I gotta get a cheap capture card.

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arrrghhh:

https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_PVR-150

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arrrghhh:

it should work in myth

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arrrghhh:

whether or not it'll work for your cable setup, I have no idea

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arrrghhh:

it appears to be for OTA analog which is dead...

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arrrghhh:

you could always try it and see what happens, since you already have the hardware

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EULAreader:

Back

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EULAreader:

Well the guide was actually amazing.

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ChaosMageX:

Ooooh, I just found a nifty little device called the Tictid M8s Android TV Box. It looks like it could function as a front-end for MythTV, especially since it already comes with Kodi pre-installed.

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[R]:

if you consider kodi good...

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ChaosMageX:

Well, I'm starting to warm up to Kodi, since I found out to get it to display ATSC closed captioning.

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beadle:

I have a hd-homerun and a cable card. I scan on the former and use mythfilldatabase to populate channels on the latter. I haven't been able to figure out how to use the one to update mythconverg.channel on the other. Any help greatly appreciated!

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beadle:

I just need to map from the cable card machine the xmltvid to the hdhomerun machine where I can then use mythfilldatabase

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beadle:

, which I've done manually so far

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beadle:

anyone?

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ctmjr:

you have an hdhr prime with a cable card? what is a cable card machine

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beadle:

it's an older hd homerun on a older machine. the cable card is in a different machine. I was hoping I could select from mythconverg on the latter to fill in xmltvid on the former

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beadle:

it seems that once the update runs there's not much left of the QAM info from the scan in mythconverg.channel

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beadle:

cable card is a hardware device used by tuners and TVs that matches the client to the cable co source

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beadle:

sort of

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ctmjr:

oh so you have 2 hdhr devices 1 with a cable card and 1 without

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beadle:

yes, but on different machines.

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beadle:

I have two installs of MythTV. They don't communicate

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beadle:

the cable card device is a Ceton recording card. The HDHR is the channel device. sorry. I can get model no's but not off top of my head

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beadle:

s/channel/scanned

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ctmjr:

if you have 2 backends one should be a slave to the other mythtv cannot have two master backends on the same network

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beadle:

it's worked that way for several years for me, but that's not the problem.

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beadle:

I just thought that the cable card provides the mapping and I can't figure out how to join the mythconverg tables to get something I can update the HDHR machine with

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beadle:

I keep them separate b/c one can do HD and the other not. When I convert to mp4 for the Roku I need that older machine to only do local. Likewise on the Ceton HD machine. I only schedule things there that I want in HD.

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beadle:

I'm just looking for a way to leverage the QAM mapping provided by the cable card data to update the db table channel right after a HDHR scan

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ctmjr:

ok does the hdhr device find any channels? when you run a channel scan

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beadle:

yes

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beadle:

ctmjr: ?

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ctmjr:

if i am understanding you correctly the ceton will not be able to do that. you need to remap the channels one at a time or use something like this https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Scte65scan

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ctmjr:

but anyway have to go, hope you get it fixed

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beadle:

my hope was to find a way to select from the database seeded by the cable card to update the QAM info on the other. If mythconverg.channel held the qam channel (eg 55.2) after do-channel-update... well, that might work

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beadle:

?

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beadle:

channujm changes

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beadle:

channum changes

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beadle:

here's what I do after I've manually created a map-- update channel c, ChanNum_ChanName cn

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beadle:

set c.name = cn.channame, c.xmltvid = cn.xmltvid

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beadle:

where cn.channum = c.channum

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beadle:

.

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beadle:

;

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beadle:

I'd also be OK with parsing log from --do-update-channels if that might show channum<->xmltvid

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beadle:

on the cable card machine

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beadle:

bummer

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EULAreader:

Hmmmm

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