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| [05:33:51] | hlarsen: | hi all, i just switched over to .28, however i can't figure out how to use the new webfrontend. the wiki says it works out of the box with no config needed, i just don't know how to connect =) |
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| [09:53:18] | lautriv: | urgh, webfrontend ? |
| [09:55:06] | stuarta: | i wouldn't urgh, it's more about being able to setup mythtv and replace mythweb |
| [09:55:40] | stuarta: | webfrontend is a bit of a misnomer. i prefer to call it backend webserver |
| [09:56:28] | lautriv: | that is indeed something desireable ;) |
| [09:57:14] | stuarta: | where i'd like to get it to, is so that you install a new system, startup the backend, then talk to it over the backend webserver and get it all configured and up and runing |
| [09:57:35] | lautriv: | but then, each backend will run a webserver ? |
| [09:57:41] | stuarta: | will make scheduled maintenance easier too, like rescanning channels is a bitch to do remotely |
| [09:57:54] | stuarta: | yes, how else would you configure it? |
| [09:58:47] | lautriv: | in the past, i did just ssh -Y mythtv@backend mythtv-setup ;) |
| [09:59:21] | stuarta: | which is painful remotely :) |
| [09:59:44] | lautriv: | sure but the reason is/was Qt |
| [10:01:08] | lautriv: | the worst thing about backend-webservers is, it is usually apache. |
| [10:02:16] | stuarta: | yes apache sucks |
| [10:02:47] | lautriv: | my master runs tengine, was worth each second of additional work. |
| [10:02:48] | stuarta: | if you've upgraded your backend already, hit :6544 with your web browser |
| [10:03:11] | stuarta: | it was there in 0.27, but limited |
| [10:03:20] | stuarta: | it's still incomplete, but getting there |
| [10:04:13] | lautriv: | so right now it is optional and i can disable apache and go the old way ? |
| [10:04:25] | stuarta: | who said anything about apache? |
| [10:04:36] | stuarta: | there is no apache |
| [10:04:38] | stuarta: | move on |
| [10:05:18] | stuarta: | it's directly implemented in the backend |
| [10:05:21] | lautriv: | that is what i asked right now. |
| [10:05:35] | stuarta: | it's directly implemented in the backend |
| [10:06:18] | lautriv: | will see what i get soon ;) |
| [10:06:45] | stuarta: | it's currently designed to be accessed via the local network, there is still work todo, to allow for hiding behind a proper webserver for those that want to do it (and i am one of those) |
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| [10:08:28] | lautriv: | local network as in exclusive to 127.0.0.1 or listening on privatenet/mask ? |
| [10:08:55] | stuarta: | binds to :6544 on the ip set for the backend |
| [10:09:10] | lautriv: | fine |
| [10:09:15] | stuarta: | :) |
| [10:09:32] | stuarta: | ie. it's no different to any of the existing ports we open |
| [10:10:48] | lautriv: | iirr that port was a command-channel before, are those commands converted to some web-script now ? |
| [10:13:26] | stuarta: | there's a new websocket port as well |
| [10:14:16] | stuarta: | :6554 |
| [10:14:35] | stuarta: | that's hardcoded atm, which i need to fix |
| [10:18:34] | lautriv: | ok. btw. i found one problem, asked yesterday about how to force qt5 while building 0.28 and dekarl was showing me some backlog, the other guy who asked suffers from the same issue, if the repo gets a ./configure on a machine with qt4 and 5 present, it selects partially a qt4 path and fails on make distclean, the only way i found was to kick qt4 and re-pull git. |
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| [10:26:32] | stuarta: | lautriv: no there's another way of fixing it. do a distclean; then find . -name Makefile -delete; git reset --hard; configure and you are away |
| [10:27:00] | stuarta: | then it should properly configure 0.28 with qt5 |
| [10:27:08] | stuarta: | not had any issues doing the above |
| [10:27:47] | stuarta: | unfortunately the generated makefiles include reference to the previously used qmake which causes stuff to break |
| [10:34:43] | lautriv: | will test that on the next target ( still 7 machines left to upgrade ) |
| [10:38:42] | stuarta: | eek |
| [10:39:22] | stuarta: | i made sure that would work, as I have machines with both 0.27 and 0.28 and therefore qt4 and qt5 installed |
| [10:39:58] | stuarta: | the only issue you might encounter is is qmake-qt5 is in an odd location |
| [10:40:11] | stuarta: | fixing it is easy, and patches welcome if you do encounter an issue |
| [10:40:17] | lautriv: | mythtv itself is not the problem but all that bloaty Qt5 stuff, frontends with less power taking a day for that .... |
| [10:40:54] | stuarta: | cause you have to compile qt5 with your distro don't you? |
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| [10:41:15] | lautriv: | funtoo, anything is source ;) |
| [10:41:33] | stuarta: | i decided i had better things to do with time a *long* time ago ;-) |
| [10:42:18] | lautriv: | i was used to debian since the stoneage but systemd changed that. |
| [10:42:40] | stuarta: | i like systemd, but it's a bit to invasive at times. |
| [10:43:15] | lautriv: | binlogs and the ability to open ports is enought to avoid it ... |
| [10:44:47] | stuarta: | this one is pissing me off https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1227379 |
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| [10:47:47] | lautriv: | that's just a small peak of the ice, systemd can do many ugly things as it will kill the machine while crashing itself, may open any port/backdoor without your knowledge, not caring about additional parameters for daemons and and and. devuan works already ;) |
| [10:50:14] | lautriv: | lennart was never able to write proper code. |
| [10:53:52] | stuarta: | no comment |
| [10:54:11] | lautriv: | just look at pulseaudio :o) |
| [10:54:25] | stuarta: | oh was he responsible for that pile of crap |
| [10:54:51] | lautriv: | indeed, same bad coding style, doesn't care about standards. |
| [10:55:13] | stuarta: | worse, doesn't care about others opinions or point of view |
| [10:55:41] | lautriv: | yep. |
| [10:57:03] | stuarta: | systemd does have some really nice features in it, proper initscript dependencies (and therefore parallel startup) automatic cgroup config... |
| [10:57:16] | stuarta: | probably some more i forgot |
| [10:59:44] | lautriv: | it's not bad "what" it want to achieve but "how". most people are about bootup-speed, doesn't matter to me since my pre-init for BMC/RAID/RSA/iSCSI/whatever takes much longer but devuan boots faster anyway. |
| [11:00:57] | lautriv: | have to move to hospital, back in a few h. |
| [11:02:38] | ** stuarta goes for lunch ** | |
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| [21:13:21] | lautriv_: | when i have drives for recordings on NFS, iscsi or similar, myth detects if it is the same drive. assumed a slave-backend fails, will any other backend be aple to play the recordings anyway ? |
| [21:13:36] | lautriv_: | *able |
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| [22:14:05] | bray90820: | So about a month and a half ago WGNCW switched from channel number 725 to 709 and WGNAmerica but no matter what I do I am still seeing WGNCW as 725 |
| [22:14:43] | bray90820: | And there both brodcasting WNGAmerica |
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| [23:49:21] | madams: | Greetings. I was wondering if anybody had troubleshooting tips for using an mceusb remote control on version lirc-0.9.1a in a Mandriva file install. |
| [23:50:04] | madams: | Mythtv is I think version 5. Trying to parse that out now. |
| [23:50:18] | madams: | IRW works just fine – shows button input as expected. |
| [23:51:02] | madams: | I've got ~/.mythtv/lircrc which worked on my previous mythbox but does nothing now. |
| [23:51:26] | madams: | Lircd is starting, but I had to configure it with a bit of a workaround. |
| [23:51:52] | madams: | https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13978 |
| [23:52:01] | madams: | Comment 2 shows the workaround. |
| [23:52:39] | madams: | What am I missing? |
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| [23:57:29] | madams: | Lircrc looks like this: |
| [23:57:33] | madams: | http://pastebin.com/8hAj21YN |
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| [23:58:30] | madams: | Anybody? |
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