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[08:14:02] lautriv: stuarta, are you around ?
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[08:20:02] Roklobsta: he didn't say good morning blokes yet
[08:20:41] Roklobsta: you know, i didn't update mythtv for a few weeks and it's been really stable.
[08:21:01] ** stuarta checks **
[08:21:02] Roklobsta: mrs lobsta is right, if I stop screwing around with it every 5 mins it works fine.
[08:21:23] lautriv: actually i can't tell the same :(
[08:21:45] Roklobsta: dekarls optimisation of the seek table is great
[08:22:08] Roklobsta: i run it once a week and recording startups are snappy
[08:23:03] stuarta: lautriv: i am
[08:23:07] lautriv: is that still 27.x ?
[08:24:57] Roklobsta: 28 trunk
[08:25:22] Roklobsta: it's the bees knees and dogs bollocks.
[08:26:05] lautriv: stuarta, i have a strange problem where i hope you have an idea ... i swapped master and a slave because the master gad some other issues ( not related to myth ) since that time, the new master perpetually crashes. IPs, hostnames, DB, config.xml and such are all changed , all tuners were deleted/re-added and i but i get much "WriteStringList: Error, called with unconnected socket." and finally "CoreContext signalhandling.cpp:305
[08:26:06] lautriv: (handleSignal) – Received Segmentation fault: Code 1, PID 4, UID 0, Value 0xffffffffc108a0f2" ... any idea ?
[08:26:41] stuarta: i'd make sure you have no old libraries around
[08:26:50] stuarta: and do a full clean rebuild
[08:27:20] lautriv: master got a rebuild
[08:28:05] stuarta: as Roklobsta said, it's pretty stable atm, so stuff like that is often found to be old libraries
[08:28:38] lautriv: i use still 0.27.5 because 0.28 wants qt5 and that is buggy.
[08:28:57] stuarta: i use both
[08:29:11] stuarta: 0.27-fixes in prod, and 0.28 in dev
[08:29:17] stuarta: on the same host
[08:30:02] lautriv: one of the slaves has no sse2 which prevents me from upgrading ( qt5 related )
[08:30:29] stuarta: i vaguely recall you talking about that
[08:30:59] Roklobsta: how old is the salve?
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[08:32:19] lautriv: athlon XP
[08:32:35] stuarta: ew
[08:32:36] Roklobsta: LOL nice.
[08:32:42] Roklobsta: hello 2000.
[08:32:59] stuarta: hey, i've got a shiny amd 3800+ under my desk at home ;-P
[08:33:15] Roklobsta: my mfe/mbe is AthlonXP2–2700 7 years old runs like a champ.
[08:33:28] Roklobsta: oops athlonX2
[08:33:43] lautriv: thingie is still faster than a Intel Xeon but no sse2 :( and since it doesn't anything but tune DVB, i have no reason to kick it.
[08:34:02] Roklobsta: faster than xeon? orly?
[08:34:53] stuarta: lautriv: what requires the sse2 support?
[08:35:24] lautriv: Roklobsta, another slave is Xeon and compiles slower. i have to admit that XP is a server-Board populating PCI-X and U320 SCSI
[08:36:34] lautriv: stuarta, there is some hardcoded part in qt5 which doesn't obey the -no-sse2 option hence it's lead to illegal instruction. long outstandig issue nobody cates about.
[08:36:58] stuarta: is it something we can work around or not?
[08:37:32] lautriv: afair it was qtxml where it happend first.
[08:38:27] stuarta: lautriv: tbh, your best bet might be to rebuild qt5 on that machine
[08:38:37] stuarta: find the src package and rebuild it
[08:39:31] stuarta: which distro btw?
[08:39:43] lautriv: stuarta, i use funtoo so it's build from src anyway but no patch around.
[08:40:42] stuarta: i'm curious if there is a bug open somewhere
[08:43:01] lautriv: yes, i found it on the qt-bugtrackerlast month.
[08:45:13] lautriv: a distro-maintainer ( i guess to remember it was RH ) complained about it because the rpm wants to be built for all.
[08:47:26] stuarta: lautriv: i'm chuckling at this http://www.beastwithin.org/blogs/wolfheadofse . . . orm-bullshit
[08:48:35] stuarta: i suspect you feel the same....
[08:50:18] stuarta: this bit particularly amused me "Plague upon you and your progeny. May the ground reject thee."
[08:51:33] lautriv: sort of :( i found the bug in list, was fedora not RH, this is the main issue -> https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-35430
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[08:57:52] lautriv: must go offline for a few minutes to fix other things, brb
[09:02:01] lautriv: <- alive ?
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[09:08:39] stuarta: lautriv: so doing some reading, the consensus is to compile Qt with -no-sse2, if necessary, i'd also patch out the hard coding of the CXXFLAGS which enable it
[09:10:25] lautriv: stuarta, i had a read and further discussion on this, when i do so from scratch the build-system of funtoo (portage) won't know about it and run ito perpetual dependency issues.
[09:10:55] stuarta: can you not pass use_flags or similar?
[09:12:41] lautriv: use-flags must be pre-defined in the ebuild to care, we have X86_FLAGS which are correct set to NOT use sse2 but that is not respected on the particular code.
[09:13:03] stuarta: then is there a way of adding the patch into the build?
[09:13:56] lautriv: it need to go upstream and nobody cares.
[09:13:58] lautriv: even worse, the -no-sse2 is no gcc but a configure-option, else i could put it to XFLAGS.
[09:14:01] lautriv: XFLAGS
[09:14:05] lautriv: C !
[09:15:16] lautriv: i will give it one shot where i emerge the part and background it right after configure, then injecting a manual configure, may work that way ...
[09:16:41] stuarta: sounds ugly
[09:17:04] lautriv: but before i start another mess, will try to fix 0.27.5.
[09:17:11] stuarta: heh
[09:17:55] lautriv: not the code, just the machines which were used to work on it ( qt4 based)
[09:19:07] Roklobsta: why are you making such an effort?
[09:19:16] Roklobsta: just buy some i3s!
[09:20:11] lautriv: Roklobsta, i buy a machine if another is dead and not just because a hype.
[09:21:21] lautriv: Roklobsta, this issue more global than just one athlon-XP, many embedded thingies which can deal with mythtv (HTPC, frontend) have no sse2 and do not need it to work.
[09:21:24] Roklobsta: in 12 months the cost of the extra electricity will pay for a new machine.
[09:21:36] Roklobsta: true
[09:21:38] Roklobsta: like arm things
[09:21:58] stuarta: yes, but the difference is, they probably build qt with --no-sse2
[09:22:43] lautriv: indeed.
[09:24:02] lautriv: how can i cleanup/check the mythconverg from commandline ? appears there are issues and i won't spend a day to re-tune.
[09:24:36] stuarta: lautriv: so is there any step in the build process, where it pulls down what it needs to build, where you can interrupt it, replace the src with a fixed on, and then make it build again?
[09:25:24] stuarta: iirc freebsd's ports will use the tarball that's already downloaded
[09:26:08] lautriv: stuarta, when emerging, i have the process on tty, if i catch the right time e.g. when ./configure is invoked and jsut completed, i may ctrl-Z and run another ./configure
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[10:02:08] lautriv: darn, usually an external command like "ssh machine command" works, this is obv. not true for /proc/sysrq-trigger and i kicked the controlling machine to >/dev/nul :o)
[10:02:26] stuarta: did you crash your machine?
[10:03:01] lautriv: i sent echo b >/proc/sysrq-trigger, it was meant for the master but happend locally.
[10:03:07] stuarta: doh
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[12:35:20] sid3windr: obviously you have to quote your redirections if you want them to happen on the non-local side
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