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| [03:33:22] | mightyball: | hello everyone. i am about at my wits end here. i recently reinstalled a prevously working myth system (ubuntu 14.04 to 15.04), with 2 HVR-2250 tuners, and all im getting now is blue video. can anyone help? |
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| [03:47:08] | mightyball: | agh, preset tuner tp channel was missing. :( |
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| [03:50:25] | RedPenguin: | out of curiousity, does MythTV have built in libhdhomerun or use the external one on the system? |
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| [06:45:24] | ikrabbe: | good morning, does anybody know how long it takes to get EIT data from a DVB-T interface in germany? |
| [06:46:21] | ikrabbe: | and possibly how to debug that support, as I'm not sure if I possibly missed to set some option somewhere deep in the options tree to get the EIT data |
| [06:48:32] | ikrabbe: | I'm using the gentoo package media-tv/mythtv-0.27_p20140321 |
| [06:51:51] | ikrabbe: | all I get from xmltv grabbers is DataDirect: Failed to get data |
| [06:52:16] | ikrabbe: | I used mythtv for a long time, but I reverted the old database as it started to slow down |
| [06:52:35] | ikrabbe: | since I reinstalled the new version there is no epg data available |
| [06:52:52] | ikrabbe: | I configured the dvb video source (mythtv-setup) to scan for device EIT data only |
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| [08:16:12] | ikrabbe: | I still wonder when I might get EPG data over EIT DVB-T. How often this data is updated (in germany)? |
| [08:26:28] | stuarta: | if the data stream it present it comes in constantly |
| [08:26:35] | stuarta: | *is present |
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| [09:00:46] | ikrabbe: | stuarta, how do I know that the data stream is present. My EPG Data stays unknown for an hour or so, after my last attempt to configure it |
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| [09:01:18] | ikrabbe: | my backend was online over night, with yesterdays configuration, but still no EPG data |
| [09:01:30] | ikrabbe: | So I changed it this morgning |
| [09:01:55] | stuarta: | the usual things to check are, 1) the datasource is configured to "use EIT" 2) the channels are set to "use_on_air_guide" |
| [09:02:13] | stuarta: | and run the backend with --verbose eit |
| [09:03:06] | stuarta: | do you have a set top box, and does that get EPG data? |
| [09:04:17] | ikrabbe: | yes there is a set top box that gets EPG data. My previous installation of mythtv also got EPG data |
| [09:04:31] | stuarta: | okay, then it's configuration |
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| [09:04:49] | ikrabbe: | ok I have the video source set to the "grabber script" EIT only |
| [09:04:55] | stuarta: | correct |
| [09:05:22] | ikrabbe: | and the channels are set to EPG over DVB |
| [09:05:58] | ikrabbe: | with an emtpy XMLTV ID and DataDirect time shift =0 |
| [09:08:06] | ikrabbe: | ok I started the mythbackend with --verbose eit now. |
| [09:09:15] | ikrabbe: | 2015-07–16 11:08:52.174695 E MainServer::HandleRecorderQuery() Command GET_FREE_INPUTS for unconnected encoder 1 |
| [09:09:19] | ikrabbe: | I get such errors |
| [09:09:41] | stuarta: | have you connected the input source to the capture card? |
| [09:09:43] | ikrabbe: | for encoder 1 and 2 |
| [09:09:54] | ikrabbe: | yes I think so. |
| [09:10:05] | stuarta: | based on that error, i'd check |
| [09:10:41] | ikrabbe: | yes I did |
| [09:11:55] | ikrabbe: | I can tune in the tv channels |
| [09:12:14] | ikrabbe: | but I don't see any eit events and I still see this error |
| [09:12:19] | ikrabbe: | when I tune in |
| [09:13:06] | ikrabbe: | ah wait: EITScanner (3): Started passive scan |
| [09:13:31] | stuarta: | so it's started while you watch tv |
| [09:13:47] | stuarta: | the you should start seeing a steady stream of "added 20 events" |
| [09:13:49] | ikrabbe: | still without any result though |
| [09:14:31] | ikrabbe: | actually when I open the EPG I get the HandleRecorderQuery Error |
| [09:15:08] | ikrabbe: | and I get 2015-07–16 11:14:46.102811 E DTVSigMon[3](/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0): Wrong PMT; pmt->pn(516) desired(515) |
| [09:17:14] | stuarta: | so it can't find the program it's looking for |
| [09:17:37] | ikrabbe: | well, I can see the program I selected |
| [09:17:49] | ikrabbe: | I mean I can watch TV on that channel |
| [09:18:18] | ikrabbe: | and I used the ScanAl method to find those channels |
| [09:18:26] | ikrabbe: | ScanAll even |
| [09:21:31] | ikrabbe: | ok now I got the EITHelper: Added 20 events on another channel but the frontend crashed |
| [09:21:56] | stuarta: | the added 20 events is good, it means it's inserting data while on that channel |
| [09:22:20] | ikrabbe: | yes now there is EPG data for the transponder |
| [09:22:22] | stuarta: | the backend will continue walking mplex's looking for eit data |
| [09:22:29] | stuarta: | it will take some time |
| [09:22:40] | stuarta: | so long as it keeps adding data you will be good |
| [09:22:50] | ikrabbe: | though I cannot watch the TV now |
| [09:23:57] | ikrabbe: | now it works again |
| [09:24:57] | ikrabbe: | somehow the pmt table seems to be broken |
| [09:25:13] | ikrabbe: | 2015-07–16 11:24:19.031199 E DTVSigMon[3](/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0): Wrong PMT; pmt->pn(3) desired(2) |
| [09:29:17] | ikrabbe: | but that seems unrelated as I get these wrong PMT messages for the transponder too, that I received EIT data for |
| [09:29:44] | stuarta: | get that sometimes if the hardware is slow to tune, if it persists it's bad, if it's a one off, it's okay |
| [09:30:52] | ikrabbe: | Yes I have a cheap and old USB DVB-T Stick. But it worked for some years now |
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| [09:46:00] | ikrabbe: | I will let it log for some time on a channel without EPG data yet. maybe it works after some delay. |
| [09:46:15] | ikrabbe: | If I don't get results, I will revert the database and reconfigure this whole beast. |
| [09:46:49] | ikrabbe: | If that doesn't helps too I will consider this version broken and try an own compile |
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| [10:01:15] | stuarta: | it should work, there is evidence that it is working |
| [10:01:31] | stuarta: | ikrabbe: poke dekarl when he is around, he's in DE |
| [10:04:59] | ikrabbe: | yes it used to work for me too, but I suspect the new gentoo compile to be broken somehow and the whole process is neither transparent nor am I able to tell the backend to scan actively |
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| [10:33:03] | ikrabbe: | hmm it seems I initially installed from a wrong country profile last time. |
| [10:33:21] | ikrabbe: | The debugging output looks the same but now the EIT works |
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| [10:45:53] | ikrabbe: | there should be an option to do a full EIT Scan for all known channels. |
| [10:46:41] | stuarta: | what do you mean? the eit scanner will walk all the mplex's and so collect data for all known channels |
| [10:47:56] | ikrabbe: | with the current setup the eit scanner just scans only the active mplex |
| [10:49:11] | ikrabbe: | it would help to let the mythtv-setup scanner read initial EIT Data, for example near the Channel configuration Icon Download button |
| [10:50:50] | stuarta: | the fastest way to kickstart it is to watch live tv |
| [10:51:05] | stuarta: | you'll have now/next data within 30s |
| [10:51:32] | stuarta: | and the longer term data starts coming in at a similar freq |
| [10:51:43] | stuarta: | in fact i think now/next is < 10s |
| [10:51:45] | ikrabbe: | yes, that's what I'm currently doing, but my first configuration problems could have been deteceted before. |
| [10:52:42] | ikrabbe: | anyway I know have a complete EPG again. Thanks for the chat. Sometimes it's good to just write down what happens. |
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| [10:54:03] | stuarta: | np |
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