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| [10:08:01] | jm|laptop: | hello :) |
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| [10:09:06] | jm|laptop: | I have multiple tuners using UK Freeview taking EIT "over-the-air". Am I right in thinking that I need only one tuner selected for EIT and with it being freeview probably only one channel set for EIT as all muxes send EIT for all channels? |
| [10:12:05] | stuarta: | jm|laptop: you setup one *datasource* which is EIT, and attach that to *all* the tuners |
| [10:14:56] | jm|laptop: | hmm. |
| [10:17:19] | stuarta: | and leave all the channels set to use on air guide |
| [10:17:34] | stuarta: | otherwise they won't receive updates from the EIT feed |
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| [10:47:03] | dekarl: | jm|laptop: are you saying that Freeview has a Full Service Information transport? |
| [10:48:40] | stuarta: | no it doesn't |
| [10:48:51] | dekarl: | can you show me a dvbscan (with hexdump please) of the network_information_table and the bouquet_allocation_table? https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/11809 I'm looking for the linkage information, so our EIT scanner can make use of these hints |
| [10:48:52] | stuarta: | it's got fully cross carried EIT data though |
| [10:49:07] | stuarta: | dekarl: it's on freesat tho, not on freeview |
| [10:49:37] | stuarta: | dekarl: we are currently missing full support for the BAT in the scanner which can join these dots |
| [10:50:33] | dekarl: | I hope that collecting real world data will help to connect the dots, so there is a chance to actually implement that one day |
| [10:50:52] | stuarta: | it's something i should be able to do, as i have access to all the bits |
| [10:50:58] | stuarta: | main issue is ENOTIME |
| [10:51:03] | dekarl: | Full EIT will be collected and the scheduling will take care of it |
| [10:51:51] | stuarta: | there's also the issue that was mentioned on the forum, that for a lot of channels on the freesat satellites, there is only now/next data with another channel carrying the full data |
| [10:52:10] | stuarta: | probably be fixed by the same code |
| [10:52:40] | dekarl: | if any of the channels on the other transport have the use_onair_guide flag set, then we will collect it |
| [10:53:37] | stuarta: | i think i'd get the scanner hooked into the backend webserver first, otherwise testing code is *extremely* painful |
| [10:53:40] | dekarl: | is this transport mentioned in any of the NIT/BAT on any transport? (maybe where the channel with only present/following data is) |
| [10:53:51] | stuarta: | probably |
| [10:53:56] | stuarta: | you want a BAT? |
| [10:54:02] | dekarl: | hmm, don't we have a commant line channel scan? |
| [10:54:19] | stuarta: | kind of, but never really had any success with it |
| [10:54:24] | dekarl: | A BAT with the actual descriptors would be great (including hexdump for unit tests, please) |
| [10:54:44] | stuarta: | lemme see what I can pull |
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| [11:09:28] | stuarta: | dekarl: so i've pulled some Bouquet's, but they are all BSkyB's and don't have a linkage_type indicating EIT |
| [11:09:37] | stuarta: | i'll check the NIT |
| [11:12:38] | stuarta: | nope, it's not in the NIT on that channel either, i'll need to grab one from a different channel |
| [11:16:34] | dekarl: | strange. |
| [11:17:36] | stuarta: | freesat is carried on astra 28.2 which also carries sky, so you need to be on the right channel i think |
| [11:17:54] | stuarta: | i've forced it with a recording on a bbc channel, so lemme grab some more data |
| [11:18:51] | dekarl: | according to the spec the descriptor should be on all transports whose SI is carried on the FullSI transport |
| [11:19:14] | stuarta: | hmm, clearly not grabbing sufficient BAT's |
| [11:19:21] | stuarta: | got a completely different set this time |
| [11:19:50] | dekarl: | ahh, we (digital tv open source projects) need a DVB table collector tool |
| [11:20:02] | stuarta: | dvbsnoop is that tool |
| [11:20:11] | stuarta: | what it doesn't do, is dedup |
| [11:20:16] | dekarl: | well, that's more like tcpdump or wireshark |
| [11:20:21] | stuarta: | correct |
| [11:20:27] | dekarl: | it also does not walk transports |
| [11:20:40] | ** stuarta captures 1000 BAT's as 100 was insufficient ** | |
| [11:21:02] | dekarl: | and it only displays individual sections, not the full table |
| [11:21:30] | stuarta: | depends how you use it |
| [11:21:38] | dekarl: | when our codes says ***Table its really only one section of the table :( |
| [11:22:04] | dekarl: | but I have not yet found a good terminology for digital TV |
| [11:22:07] | stuarta: | that would be a bug, i remember doing multi section support for tables years ago |
| [11:22:11] | dekarl: | its all messed up |
| [11:22:49] | dekarl: | "multi section" or "multi TS packet"? |
| [11:22:53] | dekarl: | I've seen the latter |
| [11:24:27] | stuarta: | well a table could be sent in multiple sections (which are carried in multiple packets due to size) |
| [11:26:02] | dekarl: | ok, then I have to watch for that to make it findable / use it :) |
| [11:31:00] | stuarta: | dekarl: it might be in the SDT |
| [11:31:03] | ** stuarta fiddles ** | |
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| [11:36:49] | dekarl: | doh, I just looked at the textual description which explains the scoping for NIT/BAT, but the table of possible locations also list SDT/EIT (and SIT) |
| [11:37:19] | stuarta: | yep |
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| [11:50:46] | jm|laptop: | um |
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| [16:58:06] | maarhart: | Hi, I don't know why the computer does not go to sleep. Mythshutdown does not work properly |
| [16:58:10] | maarhart: | I guess |
| [16:59:15] | maarhart: | it does wake up from sleep at scheduled times via mythtv |
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| [17:03:59] | dekarl: | what does "mythshutdown --status" say? |
| [17:04:08] | maarhart: | I am trying to change the halt command... it was set to safe shutdown... now it is the proper halt command |
| [17:05:02] | dekarl: | oh, so it is shutting down, but only half-way? Then you manually turn it off and it comes back up at the expected time? |
| [17:05:13] | maarhart: | dekarl: yes |
| [17:05:39] | maarhart: | mythshutdown --status does not say anything. |
| [17:07:02] | dekarl: | I was guessing that for some reason shutdown was not possible. Maybe a stale manual lock or something |
| [17:07:40] | dekarl: | what OS is that? shutdown or shutdown -p should do it |
| [17:07:45] | maarhart: | ubuntu |
| [17:08:04] | maarhart: | that works fine. |
| [17:08:20] | maarhart: | I will try putting it to sleep. coming back soon |
| [17:10:05] | dekarl: | "shutdown --check" should output "OK to shutdown" |
| [17:12:36] | maarhart: | mythshutdown do you mean? |
| [17:12:52] | maarhart: | oh yes it says that. |
| [17:13:37] | maarhart: | http://paste.debian.net/260306 |
| [17:15:52] | dekarl: | Oh yes, "mythshutdown --check". Appears to be the only test that clearly communicates "I think we can shut down" in a human readable way. |
| [17:17:24] | maarhart: | right, but no luck |
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| [17:29:44] | maarhart: | any suggestions? |
| [17:38:17] | maarhart: | http://paste.debian.net/260346 mythwelcome output |
| [17:42:15] | maarhart: | this is also interesting http://paste.debian.net/260357 and it does suspend the computer |
| [17:46:56] | maarhart: | dekarl: what do you think? |
| [18:03:47] | maarhart: | I think that systemctl and mythshutdown are having issues |
| [18:11:48] | maarhart: | ? |
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| [18:45:41] | dekarl: | what does this do? /usr/bin/setwakeup.sh |
| [19:57:29] | maarhart: | dekarl: http://paste.debian.net/260494 |
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| [20:02:31] | dekarl: | maarhart: so it is working now? |
| [20:03:21] | dekarl: | this is a bit complex to setup though :( |
| [20:07:36] | maarhart: | dekarl: no, I get the same issue |
| [20:07:42] | maarhart: | mythshutdown --startup returned: 1 |
| [20:08:04] | maarhart: | the countdown timer resets all the time |
| [20:09:47] | maarhart: | dekarl: do you know what mythshutdown --startup does? |
| [20:18:41] | dekarl: | maarhart, quoting from --help "Check startup status", running as "mythshutdown --startup --verbose general --loglevel info" prints the human readable result. "looks like we were started manually: 1" |
| [20:19:18] | dekarl: | it may be used to decide between manual/automatic startup |
| [20:20:03] | dekarl: | IIRC it is used to allow mythwelcome to decide if it should start mythfrontend (manual) or not (automatic) |
| [20:20:40] | dekarl: | that was important when a running frontend blocked shutdown unconditionally |
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| [20:29:03] | lautriv: | is there any new bug in QT ? i get : |
| [20:29:07] | lautriv: | QObject::killTimer: Timers cannot be stopped from another thread |
| [20:29:07] | lautriv: | QObject::startTimer: Timers cannot be started from another thread |
| [20:29:22] | lautriv: | only upgraded qt ... |
| [20:31:38] | maarhart: | dekarl: I see, thanks |
| [20:33:33] | maarhart: | dekarl: I will reboot and see what happens. thanks again |
| [20:33:34] | maarhart: | bye |
| [20:33:36] | dekarl: | lautriv: which version is that? |
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| [20:34:43] | dekarl: | when functionality was shuffled around between threads we had that issue before https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8053 but that was around fixes/0.23 |
| [20:35:03] | lautriv: | dekarl, was 5.4.1 got 5.4.2 but i just set qtchooser to 4.8.7 with the same issue |
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| [20:35:59] | dekarl: | lautriv: hmm and what MythTV version? We support either 5.x or 4.8 but IMHO you can't simply switch forth/back |
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| [20:39:23] | lautriv: | dekarl, mythtv is 27.4, i was always using qt4 but funtoos ebuilds broke and then i build from scratch where it was ranting about missing qt5, hence both. |
| [20:39:47] | lautriv: | but this was another machine (3rd slave-backend) |
| [20:40:01] | dekarl: | strange. fixes/0.27 works well with QT4 |
| [20:40:31] | lautriv: | i see also -> MythCoreContext::GenMythURL(10.0.0.154/29106_20140922181200.mpg): Given IP address instead of hostname (ID). This is invalid worked all fine before qt upgraded. |
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| [20:47:22] | lautriv: | dekarl, appears it will only die on live-tv, i have one in progress ( that 3rd slave ) maybe it is disturbing. will try something if finished else asking tomorrow again.thanks |
| [20:48:17] | dekarl: | lautriv: good luck. you may want to update to latest fixes/0.27 to avoid potentially chasing an already fixed issue |
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| [20:51:01] | lautriv: | dekarl, i would like to use the latest but there are some problems on machines without sse2, both myth and qt have issues on that part. |
| [20:53:59] | dekarl: | lautriv: I'm not aware of issues like that. Is the an open ticket? |
| [20:59:13] | lautriv: | dekarl, it appears an old thing. while emerging mythtv on funtoo using a machine with sse but no sse2 i found it will still use sse2 (was no issue before because formerly used machines had all sse2 ) so i opened a bug in funtoo and was told the problem is old, known and outstanding in mythtv, hence the local solution was to disable sse also. |
| [21:01:34] | lautriv: | in qt it is similar, sse2 is partially hardcoded and even the live-check fails ( enables the check with successfull sse2.cpp ) there is a recommendation to explicitly set -no-sse ( after a fedora maintainer opened the bug ) |
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| [21:04:27] | dekarl: | I vaguely remember reading that, but can't find it right now. After looking at the fixes that went into 0.27 after the 0.27.4 release its worth to update. Another ticket hints that GCC 5.1.0 or newer has some fixes. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516692 |
| [21:08:04] | lautriv: | dekarl, the obvious machine in question is done from scratch ( mythtv part ) but my latest possible compiler ( not woth to handcraft it, to much links in system ) is 4.9.2. my last zip from github is approx a week old, may i prefer to git-clone ? |
| [21:09:06] | dekarl: | ok, I thought its 0.27.4 release, but "a week old" sounds like fixes/0.27 a moment before release 0.27.5 |
| [21:10:00] | dekarl: | sounds like -no-sse is the way to go then |
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| [21:12:57] | lautriv: | for qt ? yes, but CPU-Flags aren't respected in the ebuild for qt ( right now, wrote another bug about it ) |
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| [21:21:24] | dekarl: | doh |
| [21:21:51] | dekarl: | I understood that the issue was with SSE2 in MythTV. |
| [21:23:31] | lautriv: | both, mythtv has somewhere the issue to use sse2 if sse is rnabled but that "-no-sse2" was about qt .... kinda double-fault. |
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