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| [01:12:24] | Bray90820: | Anyone around? |
| [01:18:55] | shiggitay: | no |
| [01:21:53] | Bray90820: | :P |
| [01:22:22] | Bray90820: | I'll ask my question again eventho it's kinda repeating myself |
| [01:22:26] | Bray90820: | my mythtv frontend seems to be extremely slow and can't connect to my backend |
| [01:22:28] | Bray90820: | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9931ab20ac35596ded23 |
| [01:24:52] | shiggitay: | Bray90820, I have clue why, besides checking to make sure you don't have a firewall or other such interference between you and the backend |
| [01:25:26] | shiggitay: | I've not used MythFrontend since I discovered how powerful MythWeb is, and I use Kodi as my frontend. So much more stable and useful for me. |
| [01:26:16] | shiggitay: | So for scheduling and managing recordings I use MythWeb, and for watching anything (LiveTV or recordings etc) I use Kodi with add-ons and PVR add-ons |
| [01:27:29] | shiggitay: | The best part about MythWeb for me is that I've made it available outside my local network, so I can access and/or stream content from anywhere I am. At least in theory that'd work.. The most I can realistically do is alter/add stuff to record... |
| [01:35:20] | Shadow__X: | Connection to master server timed out.#012#011#011#011Either the server is down or the master server settings#012#011#011#011in mythtv-settings does not contain the proper IP address |
| [01:35:27] | Shadow__X: | it keeps spitting that out over and over again |
| [01:35:30] | Shadow__X: | fix the ip |
| [01:38:44] | Bray90820: | Shadow__X: do you happen to know what IP address it's looking foir because It looks like that is the correct IP address is entered |
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| [01:39:05] | Shadow__X: | yeah, the ip of your backend |
| [01:39:18] | Shadow__X: | and if you setup your backend to point to 127.0.0.1 thats not gonna work |
| [01:39:34] | ** shiggitay holds back a chuckle ** | |
| [01:40:18] | Bray90820: | Shadow__X: But what number is it looking at so i know if it's the one i actually entered or not |
| [01:40:38] | shiggitay: | Bray90820, let me ask you this... is your backend on the same machine you're on now? |
| [01:40:47] | shiggitay: | i.e. is on the same machine as the frontend |
| [01:40:50] | shiggitay: | is it* |
| [01:40:55] | shiggitay: | ? |
| [01:40:57] | Shadow__X: | Bray90820: you set it up, how i am i supposed to know what number you entered |
| [01:41:01] | shiggitay: | lol. |
| [01:41:36] | Bray90820: | Shadow__X: I am not asking for what I entered I am asking for which one the application is trying to find |
| [01:41:51] | shiggitay: | it's trying to find the IP address of the machine it's running on |
| [01:42:00] | shiggitay: | Bray90820, have you had this working before? |
| [01:42:46] | shiggitay: | for example I have my backend stuff running on a separate computer than this one. so my IP is 192.168.25.114 |
| [01:43:14] | Bray90820: | shiggitay: yes on ubuntu 14.10 but then i reinstalled 15.04 and now it stopped working and yes the front and backends are on the same machine |
| [01:43:46] | Bray90820: | shiggitay: maybe I entered 192.168.1.7 and the logs are saying it's looking for 192.168.1.8 or something |
| [01:43:46] | shiggitay: | okay then pop open a terminal and do ifconfig eth0 to find the IP |
| [01:43:52] | Bray90820: | wrong ping |
| [01:43:57] | Bray90820: | Shadow__X: |
| [01:44:01] | shiggitay: | xD |
| [01:44:02] | shiggitay: | it's ok |
| [01:44:18] | Bray90820: | But do you get what I am asking |
| [01:44:28] | shiggitay: | once you get the IP open up MythTV Setup and fix stuff accordingly |
| [01:44:33] | Bray90820: | maybe the frontend is looking for a different number then I entered in the backend |
| [01:45:00] | shiggitay: | as I said, find the IP, load up setup, fix it there, and make sure the frontend also has the same IP |
| [01:45:41] | shiggitay: | as Shadow__X said make sure it's not anything like "localhost" or "127.0.0.1" |
| [01:46:51] | shiggitay: | without this sounding rude, we can't help you unless you help yourself :) |
| [01:46:54] | Bray90820: | What I entered in the backend is and frontend are correct but it's still failing |
| [01:47:18] | shiggitay: | check logs for the error |
| [01:48:57] | shiggitay: | make sure both Mythbackend and mysqld processes are running |
| [01:49:35] | Shadow__X: | shiggitay: yup |
| [01:49:56] | shiggitay: | As much of a pain in the ass that Myth is, I've grown to love it |
| [01:50:16] | ** shiggitay has it running on a Hackintosh <3 ** | |
| [01:50:37] | Shadow__X: | i have been running it since 2007, linux backend |
| [01:50:46] | shiggitay: | awesomesauce |
| [01:50:46] | Bray90820: | shiggitay: I can't even get the backend started |
| [01:50:56] | Shadow__X: | i won't be upgrading to mythbutnu 15.04 though, |
| [01:50:59] | Bray90820: | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/0f03d42c477ee8bc16c5 |
| [01:51:23] | shiggitay: | Do what it says. |
| [01:51:29] | Shadow__X: | Bray90820: why don't you reformat the box and install 14.04 and not upgrade to 15.04. iirc you asked this same question in mythbuntu and thats what you were told |
| [01:51:53] | Bray90820: | What changed in 15.04 that would make it fail |
| [01:52:26] | Shadow__X: | Bray90820: was it you that was told to reinstall 14.04? |
| [01:52:28] | shiggitay: | well either start over with 14.04 or just reinstall MythTV |
| [01:52:48] | shiggitay: | i.e. apt-get install mythtv |
| [01:52:53] | Shadow__X: | shiggitay: imo if Bray90820 is using mythbuntu, just reinstall. afaik the install isn't really old |
| [01:53:05] | Bray90820: | I am not ubuntu mythbuntu |
| [01:53:19] | shiggitay: | so you're on generic Ubuntu? |
| [01:53:26] | Bray90820: | Yes |
| [01:53:32] | shiggitay: | Shadow__X, |
| [01:53:34] | shiggitay: | heh |
| [01:54:25] | shiggitay: | I don't run Ubuntu, so besides recommending what to do, I don't know HOW to do it on such a system |
| [01:54:28] | Shadow__X: | Bray90820: 15.04 switched over to sysctl, and iirc there may be issues with the default mythtv script shipped by ubuntu |
| [01:54:53] | Shadow__X: | shiggitay: mythbuntu is super easy, install it, set it up, set up mythbuntu repos,enjoy |
| [01:55:25] | shiggitay: | oh I know how easy it is, but I really don't feel like fscking with something that works so well |
| [01:55:26] | shiggitay: | lol |
| [01:55:43] | Shadow__X: | yeah |
| [01:55:54] | shiggitay: | I run Funtoo Linux here, soon to have a laptop that'll dualboot Sabayon Linux and Mac OS X (might triple boot with Windows 7.. not sure yet) |
| [01:56:56] | Shadow__X: | what is funtoo based on? wacky ubuntu? |
| [01:57:06] | Shadow__X: | fedora with a unity theme? |
| [01:57:12] | shiggitay: | Funtoo in case you don't know is based on Gentoo Linux though the main difference is how packages are managed and how code changes are committed etc |
| [01:57:21] | Shadow__X: | gotcha |
| [01:57:24] | shiggitay: | basically they use Git for their updates and what not |
| [01:58:13] | shiggitay: | Shadow__X, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Funtoo_Linux |
| [02:01:02] | shiggitay: | also http://www.funtoo.org/Welcome |
| [02:02:11] | Shadow__X: | i haven't tried gentoo in years |
| [02:02:15] | shiggitay: | Anyway... Bray90820 how's it going? |
| [02:02:25] | shiggitay: | Shadow__X, Funtoo is SOOOO much easier to set up.... |
| [02:02:33] | Shadow__X: | bray is mourning the loss of his mythtv install |
| [02:03:00] | Bray90820: | shiggitay: I am still trying with 15.04 for a while I will prob go with 14.04 tomorrow if I can't get it working |
| [02:03:08] | shiggitay: | heh |
| [02:03:17] | Shadow__X: | Bray90820: if you go with 14.04, don't upgrade to 15.04 |
| [02:03:30] | Bray90820: | Well duh |
| [02:03:40] | Bray90820: | I'll upgrade on the next LTS release |
| [02:03:40] | Shadow__X: | and make sure you use the real ip address in backend setup :D |
| [02:03:48] | shiggitay: | XD |
| [02:03:50] | Bray90820: | It was the real IP address |
| [02:03:56] | Shadow__X: | i am giving csi cyber a try, its awful |
| [02:04:15] | Shadow__X: | Bray90820: sounds like your backend isn't running. you can save your DB and recordings |
| [02:04:22] | Shadow__X: | then import all that info into the new install |
| [02:05:41] | Bray90820: | Shadow__X: You are correct my backend isn't running and it's failing to start https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9beaf2493a5ebd0f002f |
| [02:06:47] | Shadow__X: | Bray90820: if mysql is running you can save your db |
| [02:07:00] | Shadow__X: | and then backup your db and your recordings |
| [02:07:01] | Bray90820: | I already have a backup of my DB |
| [02:07:18] | Bray90820: | I backed up before I ungraded to 15.04 |
| [02:07:28] | Shadow__X: | smart move |
| [02:07:42] | Bray90820: | But right now I am actually running on a fresh install of 15.04 and not an upgrade |
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| [02:14:30] | Shadow__X: | Bray90820: have you looked into mythbuntu stuff? |
| [02:15:13] | Bray90820: | I have and actually found it easier to use standard ubuntu |
| [02:15:24] | Bray90820: | Everything was fine until 15.04 |
| [02:16:31] | tgm4883: | Well that seems a bit odd |
| [02:17:19] | Shadow__X: | Bray90820: whatever you decide to do, don't forget to use mythbuntu repos, that way you get mythtv updates |
| [02:17:36] | Bray90820: | Alright |
| [02:18:46] | Shadow__X: | tgm4883: which bit, 15.04 causing problems or preferring ubuntu or mythbuntu? |
| [02:19:37] | tgm4883: | Ubuntu over mythbuntu |
| [02:20:00] | tgm4883: | Well, one being easier than e other |
| [02:20:02] | Shadow__X: | yeah, i felt the same way |
| [02:20:13] | Shadow__X: | i think mythbuntu is leagues better for mythtv but thats me |
| [02:20:55] | tgm4883: | Yep |
| [02:21:12] | tgm4883: | I've got some ideas for the future too |
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| [03:29:45] | kusznir: | Hi all: how do I cancel a job in the queue (trancode)? |
| [03:31:32] | Shadow__X: | there should be an option in the frontend |
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| [17:11:02] | RedPenguin: | hey all |
| [17:11:27] | RedPenguin: | Just a quick question since can't seem to find the docs, for "program.originalairdate" is it year-month-day in the date format? |
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| [17:30:20] | Seeker`: | eugh, why am I getting "B" length recordings |
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| [21:03:04] | docjay: | what linux OS is everyone using for thier backend? I was hoping to use centos 7, can't really find a decent guide. I'm currently running mythbuntu .27.4 and want to go to beta for the kodi cppmyth client to work with commercial skipping |
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| [21:12:52] | tgm4883: | docjay: mythbuntu |
| [21:13:17] | tgm4883: | docjay: most users use mythbuntu or other *buntu variant |
| [21:14:05] | docjay: | thats probably best then since I need to run Unfi Video as well. they only have packages for ubuntu and debian. |
| [21:14:25] | docjay: | Ubiquiti that is... |
| [21:19:45] | Shadow__X: | also make sure mythtv is working completely before trying a third party client |
| [21:21:45] | tgm4883: | yes |
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| [21:44:05] | docjay: | is there an easy way to copy over myth backend settings from one system to another? Or just a way to backup the backend settings? |
| [21:45:54] | [R]: | backup the db |
| [21:45:56] | [R]: | thats everythign |
| [21:49:07] | tgm4883: | hmm, the pi 2 seems to work pretty well for a backend |
| [21:55:24] | docjay: | great, thanks for the tip. |
| [21:56:10] | docjay: | tgm4883, did you use raspian or ...? |
| [21:56:37] | tgm4883: | docjay: I installed ubuntu for the pi 2 and then installed mythtv from there |
| [21:56:57] | tgm4883: | I'm seeing whats needed then I'm probably going to create an image for it |
| [21:57:08] | docjay: | okay, kewl. Is there a special image for that or just run the iso? |
| [21:57:26] | tgm4883: | I can't seem to find kodi pre-built for it though. I don't see it in the raspbian repos so I'll probably have to compile it |
| [21:57:32] | tgm4883: | docjay: there is a special image |
| [21:57:43] | tgm4883: | docjay: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/RaspberryPi#Download |
| [21:58:25] | tgm4883: | I've tested it writing to the local SD card and seems to work fine |
| [21:58:26] | docjay: | awesome, thx. I got a pi 2 a few weeks back and I planned on using it for a 2nd TV. wanted to use the mythtv frontend for that. |
| [21:58:50] | tgm4883: | docjay: mythfrontend won't run on the pi |
| [21:58:58] | tgm4883: | well it will, but you don't want to use it for video playbak |
| [21:59:10] | docjay: | scratch that ;) |
| [21:59:24] | tgm4883: | that's why i'm looking at testing kodi on it |
| [21:59:26] | docjay: | kodi then maybe? |
| [21:59:29] | docjay: | sweet |
| [21:59:33] | tgm4883: | yea I hear kodi works |
| [21:59:40] | tgm4883: | but I don't see it pre-built for arm anywhere |
| [21:59:45] | tgm4883: | although supposedly it is |
| [22:00:16] | docjay: | the cppmyth plugin works great, lots of stuff added for v .28 |
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| [22:02:30] | tgm4883: | docjay: where can I read up on that |
| [22:02:43] | docjay: | cppmyth? |
| [22:02:58] | tgm4883: | ya |
| [22:03:07] | docjay: | http://janbar.github.io/pvr.mythtv/ |
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| [22:12:42] | docjay: | tgm4883: why not use openelec? |
| [22:13:43] | tgm4883: | docjay: openelec doesn't include a backend |
| [22:14:37] | docjay: | tgm4883: okay, didn't know you wanted a BE also |
| [22:15:13] | tgm4883: | docjay: yea, I'm attempting to make a single image that will do frontend and backend duties on a pi |
| [22:15:31] | docjay: | great idea :) |
| [22:19:03] | tgm4883: | yep, I think with the price of them that it could really be something to point people at |
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| [22:31:07] | docjay: | trying to upgrade from .27 to .28 with mythbuntu. I've selected the new dev repository in the control center. Do I need to do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' to get it installed? |
| [22:31:28] | tgm4883: | docjay: yes, but you'll need to do apt-get update first |
| [22:32:23] | docjay: | awesome, thanks |
| [22:33:30] | ** ctmjr wonders if .28 is ready for prime time ** | |
| [22:35:45] | docjay: | getting a lot of 'unmet dependencies' |
| [22:35:48] | docjay: | ugh |
| [22:37:23] | docjay: | looks like a 'apt-get -f install ' did the trick |
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