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| [00:36:57] | voyo: | hello. I have problem with tuning (live TV, or recording) to channels from some MUX (DVB-S, Hotbird) . All settings seems OK, and with different application (kaffeine, tvheadend) this mux is working ok. I dont see anything particular in logs, how to debug this ?? (I just tried latest 0.28 from trunk) |
| [00:38:27] | Hydr0p0nX: | what happens when you try to tune it ? |
| [00:39:53] | voyo: | black screen, and message like 'blah blah 15000 ms timeout' |
| [00:40:15] | voyo: | frontend is still responsible, can switch to other channel |
| [00:48:05] | Hydr0p0nX: | try running the frontend with additional logging ? |
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| [01:16:37] | jedix: | hey |
| [01:18:11] | jedix: | what's a good tuner? I have a hppage 2250, but it seems to have signal issues when there too much signal if any issue.. |
| [01:18:30] | jedix: | dual channel, if possible |
| [01:18:39] | jedix: | for ota hd (atsc?) |
| [01:18:49] | [R]: | the linuxtv website has a list of supported tuners |
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| [01:21:56] | jedix: | so, the card I have is the only pcie that does ntsc? |
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| [01:22:38] | [R]: | if thats what the linuxtv website says |
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| [01:23:00] | jedix: | I was hoping to get one that did not require a fw upload |
| [01:23:14] | [R]: | because? |
| [01:23:55] | jedix: | because it's a pain on rebuild/kernel upgrade |
| [01:24:08] | [R]: | huh? firmware has nothign to do with the kernel |
| [01:24:26] | jedix: | yeah, it does |
| [01:24:58] | jedix: | the filename may change and where it looks for the file changes |
| [01:25:17] | [R]: | the firwmare has been in the same directory for as long as i can remember |
| [01:25:50] | [R]: | and the filename isn't going to change every week |
| [01:25:52] | jedix: | every time my kernel updates, I have to copy the firmware into a directory which contains the kernel version |
| [01:26:01] | [R]: | then you're syste is severly screwed up |
| [01:26:08] | [R]: | firmware is supposed to be in /lib/firmware |
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| [01:26:33] | jedix: | /lib/firmware/`uname-r` |
| [01:26:46] | jedix: | that's where it is on this system |
| [01:26:57] | [R]: | oh, looks like it can be there also |
| [01:27:02] | [R]: | but ssane things just go in /lib/firmware |
| [01:28:37] | jedix: | maybe I should try a usb dongle one this time |
| [01:29:25] | [R]: | yeah, that sounds like a great plan |
| [01:29:54] | jedix: | ha, that's what I though too |
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| [01:32:19] | jedix: | the cheap tv I use for testing gets 90% signal, but this card doesn't get a lock.. not sure what else to do but replace it |
| [01:32:45] | jedix: | but I'm not sure it'll work out |
| [01:33:12] | jedix: | I could spend 120$ to find out it's not the card but some other issue |
| [01:40:32] | lautriv: | jedix, what is the SNR when you scan ? |
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| [01:41:53] | jedix: | lautriv: the SNR is always 40 on this card :/ |
| [01:41:57] | jedix: | doesn't seem to work |
| [01:42:10] | lautriv: | maybe the wiring |
| [01:42:23] | jedix: | wiring from the antenna? |
| [01:42:43] | lautriv: | yes, coaxial is sensible |
| [01:42:58] | jedix: | but the cheap tv works |
| [01:43:06] | jedix: | I guess I'll run a new cable |
| [01:43:21] | lautriv: | the tv is on the same wire up to the last plug ? |
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| [01:43:40] | jedix: | I unplug the tuner and plug it into the tv to test |
| [01:44:47] | lautriv: | that ota hd is terrestrial, bo ? |
| [01:44:56] | jedix: | bo? |
| [01:45:12] | lautriv: | s/bo/no/ :P |
| [01:46:16] | jedix: | I guess so |
| [01:46:23] | jedix: | it's an 8-bay in the attic |
| [01:46:45] | lautriv: | let me rephrase .... over air, not sattelite |
| [01:46:52] | jedix: | oh, ha. yeah |
| [01:47:01] | jedix: | atsc? |
| [01:47:26] | lautriv: | that's a format for US, doesn't matter for terrestrieal |
| [01:48:11] | jedix: | oh, I thought OTA meant terrestrial |
| [01:48:52] | jedix: | and atsc meant not QAS or whatever those encrypted ones are |
| [01:49:08] | jedix: | it's the 24 channels I can get with an antenna |
| [01:49:39] | lautriv: | did you check the presence and function of your devices ? |
| [01:49:55] | jedix: | presence and fucntion of my devices? |
| [01:50:05] | jedix: | the device nodes are created |
| [01:50:08] | jedix: | and certain channels work |
| [01:50:15] | jedix: | but others fail |
| [01:50:29] | jedix: | one in specific has a 96% signal on the crappy tv |
| [01:50:32] | jedix: | but fails on the tuner |
| [01:50:52] | lautriv: | did you collect a summary which are failing ? |
| [01:51:05] | jedix: | not really |
| [01:51:43] | lautriv: | may happen you have a problem with a specific range, xaused by wronf firmware or bad offset. |
| [01:51:53] | jedix: | I did notice that if I don't plug the cable in all the way, some of the channels work better |
| [01:52:29] | jedix: | I checked the wiki about the latest firmware |
| [01:52:49] | jedix: | with 3.13.0-46-generic |
| [01:52:55] | jedix: | the firmware is from 2011 or 2012 |
| [01:53:03] | jedix: | so, they should match |
| [01:53:04] | lautriv: | if you have better results with less plugging maybe a bad soldering. |
| [01:53:17] | jedix: | on the card? |
| [01:53:37] | lautriv: | yes, middle pin of antenna |
| [01:53:44] | jedix: | I'll check that |
| [01:53:46] | jedix: | thanks |
| [01:54:21] | jedix: | that woudl explain it |
| [01:54:27] | lautriv: | use many light and a spy-glass, high frequency is difficult |
| [01:54:42] | jedix: | maybe I'll just reflow it |
| [01:55:12] | lautriv: | at least faster and cheaper than replacing for nuts |
| [01:55:49] | lautriv: | type-F connector ? |
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| [01:59:09] | jedix: | yeah |
| [01:59:31] | jedix: | I tried switching the cable four times |
| [01:59:55] | jedix: | some I made, some from a store |
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| [02:00:10] | lautriv: | you may also check the inner contact, could be widened and may be closed a bit with a needle. |
| [02:02:36] | jedix: | okay, thanks |
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| [02:50:10] | tmwsiy: | Hi I am trying to configure the stable branch from github on ubuntu 14.04 following the build guide and using radeon driver and output from vdpauinfo it (vdpau) still is not detected by the configure |
| [02:50:53] | tmwsiy: | it is a HD7950 card |
| [02:51:46] | [R]: | "it" isn't "detected"? |
| [02:52:08] | tmwsiy: | VDPAU support no |
| [02:52:24] | [R]: | sounds like you are mising the vdpau headers |
| [02:53:52] | tmwsiy: | sweet that was it libvdpau-dev |
| [02:53:56] | tmwsiy: | thanks |
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| [12:11:34] | lautriv: | i get no theme/menu on a frontend which appears to work otherwise correct, frontend logs this -> https://bpaste.net/show/5a65d05d6efa did i anything miss/overlook ? |
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| [15:01:15] | bill6502: | lautriv: I don't know your netmask, but lines 52/53 would be odd if its a /24, as .255 would be its broadcast address. Seeing that message twice is odd to me too. I've never noticed the Checking to run HardwareProfiler 4 times. If you're on a /16 and the broadcast comment isn't valid, then I'd try: SELECT * FROM housekeeping WHERE tag='HardwareProfiler' ORDER BY hostname; and see if node333 shows up with some corrupt data. |
| [15:03:21] | bill6502: | Failing that, since the FE stops so early, this is one of the ***RARE*** cases I'd suggest using -v most,norefcount --loglevel debug and looking at the log again. |
| [15:05:09] | lautriv: | bill6502, the setup is clean e.g. there was never any change on node333 since setup, backend shows it like all others via mythweb/database. broadcast is correct for 10.0.0.0/24. i get login to DB and all but only grey background. will see if that query will throw anything out. |
| [15:14:28] | bill6502: | The FE is: "Listening on TCP 10.0.0.225:6547" for example and if that's a /24 then it's listing on a broadcast address. You mentioned (long ago) that "hostname is new, IP is new" (so the FE has never worked I assume.) If the IP for node333 is 10.0.0.225, then I consider changing it. |
| [15:16:26] | lautriv: | bill6502, look twice 225 not 255 |
| [15:18:14] | bill6502: | Sorry, no excuses available for that. |
| [15:18:54] | lautriv: | bill6502, this -> http://pastebin.com/QSa2Dikg is the complete output where the database on primary backend knows about 11 different frontends where 10 are working fine. |
| [15:23:18] | bill6502: | OK, strike 2. -v most,norefcount --loglevel debug is my last shot (or -v all would be last, but it's rarely been useful, too much data.) |
| [15:25:18] | lautriv: | bill6502, i may mention this is ( right now ) the first frontend running on funtoo instead debian (all others) but Xserver works fine, tested with xterm and mouse/kbd maybe there is something special on QT what i could check ? |
| [15:29:27] | bill6502: | lautriv: I can't answer that. The original FE log you pasted was the ENTIRE log correct? |
| [15:30:37] | lautriv: | bill6502, the first one was from start to ctrl-C where usually was more than enought time to show a theme, will do the same now with new settings which contains a lot of backend-info too. |
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| [15:37:14] | lautriv: | bill6502, almost mythfrontend, mythlogserver starts at line 2625 -> https://bpaste.net/show/cfb7c7d0716a take your time, i have to move for approx 1h. |
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| [16:11:56] | shiggitay: | hey guys.. I have a question: I upgraded my HDHomeRun Prime's firmware to their latest beta, and now MythWeb is ghosting a recording that's not happening when I go to the "Upcoming Recordings" tab. No clicking "Delete and Rerecord" etc seems to help. |
| [16:12:17] | shiggitay: | I'm running such on my HTPC box which runs Mac OS X 10.9.2. |
| [16:12:46] | shiggitay: | is there a way to restart Mythweb? I've tried relaunching Apache2, but that didn't seem to help... |
| [16:13:36] | shiggitay: | Would I need to relaunch the backend? Or would I have to re-add the tuners via MythTV Setup? |
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| [16:40:32] | sphery: | /away |
| [16:40:42] | sphery: | shiggitay: restart mythbackend, not mythweb |
| [16:41:08] | shiggitay: | sphery, yeah I ended up doing that.. thanks :) |
| [16:41:10] | shiggitay: | all's well |
| [16:42:41] | sphery: | Yeah, mythweb misinterprets some data that indicates a failed/incomplete-but-past-end-time recording, so it shows it as active. When you restart mythbackend after the end time of the show, that recording status information is changed to a form that mythweb doesn't misinterpret. |
| [16:48:14] | shiggitay: | sphery, interesting, and super derpy |
| [16:57:23] | lautriv: | shiggitay, just seen that. mythweb is very close to the backend, whenever something misbehaves it is the backend itself, that solved your web is instantly up to date. |
| [16:58:18] | shiggitay: | lautriv, o hai |
| [16:58:35] | lautriv: | shiggitay, that too ;) |
| [16:59:35] | lautriv: | shiggitay, actually fighting myself with a frontend but it'll probably end up in a funtoo-issue. |
| [16:59:48] | shiggitay: | haha |
| [17:00:02] | shiggitay: | why u respond here and not to my highlight in #funtoo? :P |
| [17:00:43] | lautriv: | shiggitay, because i just came back from a dogwalk. |
| [17:00:49] | shiggitay: | woof |
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| [17:01:40] | lautriv: | beside that, i'll spare my words there, was ranting enought yesterday. |
| [17:01:47] | shiggitay: | xD |
| [17:02:41] | lautriv: | bill6502, i guess there was nothing obvious ? |
| [17:02:51] | bill6502: | lautriv: Looks like the FE is running, just not displaying. My notes to myself follow: Lines 2391/2 node001, but node201 in SQL not sure which is the backend, Not compiled with --disable-mythlogserver see Wiki for Mythlogserver (odd, but not likely this display problem.) These 2: NOT IN RAM CACHE, 2071 No theme file '/tmp/base.xml' appear in my (working) FE, so not likely a problem. |
| [17:04:05] | lautriv: | i like that nick, reminds me on good old Rockwell assembly on self-soldered machines back in the early 80's. |
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| [17:04:57] | bill6502: | LDA, TXY, STA, JSR... |
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| [17:24:39] | lautriv: | disconnect. my last shown words ? |
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| [17:32:12] | shiggitay: | <lautriv> i like that nick, reminds me on good old Rockwell assembly on self-soldered machines back in the early 80's. |
| [17:34:26] | lautriv: | bah, all other was already talking to a wall o.O will repeat ... |
| [17:34:36] | lautriv: | bill6502, node001 is the primary backend, node201 is another node running a frontend . |
| [17:34:39] | lautriv: | shiggitay, i remember the times between 0.22 and 0.24 where it was somewhat usual to have a crashing backend, mostly leaving one thread running without interaction. was fine to write a cronjob to check the amount of myth-threads and restart if more than 3 and less than 2 were counted. |
| [17:34:42] | lautriv: | s/and/or/ |
| [17:35:04] | lautriv: | (done) |
| [17:48:30] | bill6502: | lautriv: SELECT * FROM settings WHERE value='ThemePainter'; I'd guess it's set to 'auto'. If not, you could try starting the FE using -O ThemePainter=opengl or qt. That's entering the guessing phase and I'm dropping off this one. JNE Sorry_I_couldnt_help |
| [17:50:07] | lautriv: | bill6502, log and terminal already showing "using QT painter" may i check that anyway ? |
| [17:51:06] | lautriv: | bill6502, and no reason for a sorry, you tried the best. i assumed alredy it's a distro(compilation) issue of funtoo. |
| [17:52:48] | bill6502: | Didn't even think to look for that in the log. No harm in trying -O ThemePainter=opengl just to see if it changes the display. |
| [17:54:20] | lautriv: | will do now ... |
| [17:58:03] | lautriv: | partial success :o) screen is now black instead grey, init of opengl reports ok but i get this .... |
| [17:58:07] | lautriv: | QGLTemporaryContext: Error creating EGL context. |
| [17:58:07] | lautriv: | QEglContext::swapBuffers(): "Bad surface (0x300D)" |
| [18:04:28] | bill6502: | Grey -> Black, oh well... |
| [18:04:39] | bill6502: | Good luck. |
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| [18:06:37] | lautriv: | that color doesn't matter but the "Bad Surface" is interresting, appears to draw outside the visible area. |
| [18:06:59] | lautriv: | hence no real error |
| [18:08:22] | natanojl: | lautriv: What hardware are you using? |
| [18:10:05] | lautriv: | natanojl, initially i815e, since XAA is not longer suppoeted i switched to a mga 2164W (MilleniumII) because that embedded thingie has only PCI free. |
| [18:11:36] | lautriv: | natanojl, graphic itself is ok, just myth is drawing somewhere else. |
| [18:15:38] | natanojl: | lautriv: Ok. Those EGL messages suggests that it is using OpenGL ES which has not been widely tested as far as I know |
| [18:17:07] | lautriv: | natanojl, that was a testwise -O ThemePainter=opengl but regular QT painter looks similar (just different background color ) |
| [18:18:52] | lautriv: | a question beside, when i use -O ThemePainter on stronger hardware like NV cards ( other frontends ) could i omit QT at all ? |
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| [18:28:24] | lautriv: | natanojl, recompiling mesa with gles support, will tell when done. |
| [18:29:23] | natanojl: | lautriv: Omit Qt in what way? |
| [18:30:29] | lautriv: | natanojl, using opengl or something similar instead to paint the theme, like the test |
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| [18:33:16] | lautriv: | natanojl, i'm not that used to graphics, more hardware as in physical drivers. |
| [18:36:29] | natanojl: | lautriv: It should automatically use opengl if it is available and fallback to qt if not |
| [18:39:20] | lautriv: | natanojl, strange part is, OPENGL is/was available and it still did QT. must play daddytaxi, back in a few. |
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| [19:53:55] | lautriv: | natanojl, still compiling, are you around some time ? |
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| [19:56:10] | natanojl: | lautriv: I'll probably be around for an hour or two |
| [19:56:46] | lautriv: | natanojl, will see then, else tomorrow ;) |
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| [21:09:28] | tmwsiy: | ok so there is no way to get vdpau working with fglrx? |
| [21:10:16] | tmwsiy: | this open source driver gives some weird color stuff that I never saw with the ati driver before |
| [21:10:48] | tmwsiy: | red washout cloudy sometimes other colors |
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| [21:45:29] | Shadow__X: | tmwsiy: is your gpu supported for the amd/ati vdpau stuff? |
| [21:46:10] | Shadow__X: | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VDPAU |
| [21:46:24] | Shadow__X: | seems like many are supported but using different packages |
| [21:52:34] | tmwsiy: | Shadow__X: Yes it is a 7950 tahiti |
| [21:53:50] | tmwsiy: | oo ic |
| [21:54:08] | tmwsiy: | this is exactly what I was looking for thanks |
| [21:56:34] | Shadow__X: | ymmv with enabling those, i haven't tried vdpau with amd at all |
| [21:57:11] | tmwsiy: | It is a fairly new, higher end card (2 year old $300 card) |
| [21:57:17] | tmwsiy: | maybe 3 |
| [21:57:36] | Shadow__X: | yeah i know about the 7950, i just haven't used vdpau with amd cards yet |
| [21:57:46] | Shadow__X: | they rebranded the 7950 as the 280 basically |
| [21:57:52] | tmwsiy: | right |
| [22:00:08] | tmwsiy: | just build 0.27 from source and tried to do a full transcode recording and I think the vdpau got hung.... been about 5 hours and mythbackend is still eating about the same amount of cpu resouces as when the transcode job kicked off in the log |
| [22:00:20] | tmwsiy: | on a 30 minute show |
| [22:02:15] | tmwsiy: | haha these are left-over bitcoin/litecoin mining cards :P |
| [22:04:35] | tmwsiy: | I have also have a GeForce GTX 750 Ti |
| [22:04:54] | tmwsiy: | do you think that would work well for transcoding? |
| [22:05:44] | Shadow__X: | oh, i didn't realize you were using vdpau for transcoding |
| [22:05:58] | Shadow__X: | i thought you were using it for offloading when watching videos |
| [22:05:59] | tmwsiy: | well both really |
| [22:06:09] | tmwsiy: | but transcoding is what I really need |
| [22:06:46] | Shadow__X: | i have no idea if thats properly supported |
| [22:06:50] | tmwsiy: | I just put it in my own dir and watch from pc's directly through filesystem ususally |
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| [22:08:12] | tmwsiy: | I gotcha.. must have misread |
| [22:09:03] | tmwsiy: | well I will say that vdpau for ati *works* |
| [22:09:13] | tmwsiy: | has some color issues but it def works :) |
| [22:09:24] | tmwsiy: | for palyback |
| [22:09:27] | tmwsiy: | playback |
| [22:10:33] | tmwsiy: | what I am after is a replacement for hulu |
| [22:10:51] | tmwsiy: | for stuff I can get OTA.. have a hdhomerun |
| [22:11:30] | tmwsiy: | one of the older ones |
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| [22:13:17] | tmwsiy: | Shadow__X: So you are saying you think transcoding is still cpu only? |
| [22:15:15] | Shadow__X: | i am saying i can't personally comment on where gpu offloading for transcoding is under linux |
| [22:15:26] | Shadow__X: | i know it works under windows, i have no idea where it is under linux |
| [22:15:54] | tmwsiy: | ic |
| [22:16:07] | Shadow__X: | even with it working on windows, i think many people still prefer cpu for transcoding because it introduces some issues and the video doesn't look as good yet |
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| [22:16:16] | Shadow__X: | that was what i read a few years ago |
| [22:16:21] | Shadow__X: | i haven't looked into it since |
| [22:16:42] | tmwsiy: | yeah I am poking my head back in after a couple of years and trying to figure out where things are |
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| [22:32:59] | tmwsiy: | so in the case of cpu transcode jobs... do they typically happen on a low priority "in the background"? |
| [22:34:24] | Shadow__X: | lol no they peg all which ever cpus they are using |
| [22:34:37] | Shadow__X: | it does happen in the background as in you can still watch shows on a frontend |
| [22:35:30] | Shadow__X: | where d id you see the option to use gpu transcoding btw? |
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| [22:41:36] | tmwsiy: | I did not.. maybe it was just wishful thinking ;) |
| [22:42:20] | tmwsiy: | I just have mythbackend eating up 10% that I did not notice before.. maybe b/c I was not waching top |
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