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| [00:25:43] | rOOb: | Hello all. I'm running v0.27.4-27-g40506c2 on Ubuntu 14.04. For some reason mythbackend is constantely using 100–150% cpu(quad core system). |
| [00:26:13] | rOOb: | Everytime I check the system it's using that much cpu so I don't think it's something like running mythfilldatabase |
| [00:26:44] | rOOb: | The system has 4 gigs of ram and has a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz |
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| [00:47:33] | bill6502: | rOOb: does this return anything (it shouldn't): ps ax|grep mythlogserver|grep -v grep |
| [00:53:29] | brian|lfs: | anyway to setup my ceton eth 6 on linux and connect it to my TVs? I can get the ceton to work fine just not sure if there is a way to get it play on my TVs |
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| [06:31:59] | buu: | brian|lfs: What do you mean, connect it to your tvs? |
| [06:32:07] | buu: | That's what mythfrontend does? |
| [06:35:43] | Shadow__X: | buu: maybe they want to install the ceton inside the tv |
| [06:35:51] | Shadow__X: | mythfrontend doesn't do that :D |
| [06:36:11] | buu: | Yeah.. |
| [06:42:14] | brian|lfs: | ya was trying to find a way to connect to my echos from mythbox |
| [06:43:04] | brian|lfs: | and the other issue watching my paid encrypted stations |
| [06:44:47] | Shadow__X: | that depends on which streams are flagged with copy once,copy never etc |
| [06:45:16] | brian|lfs: | ah ok very lame I pay for the channels |
| [06:45:18] | Shadow__X: | mostly its premiums that you have to worry about, but some cable co like to get aggressive with their flagging |
| [06:45:23] | brian|lfs: | and the movie channels don't work |
| [06:45:43] | brian|lfs: | so how does windows media center get around it |
| [06:45:54] | Shadow__X: | brian|lfs: you would be able to watch all of them including premiums using something like win mce, but mythtv cannot |
| [06:46:07] | Shadow__X: | because win mce encrypts the streams |
| [06:46:22] | robbak: | xkcd.com] |
| [06:46:51] | brian|lfs: | yuck just a way to be stuck on windows |
| [06:47:04] | Shadow__X: | its a tradeoff |
| [06:47:06] | brian|lfs: | fucking Microsoft |
| [06:47:11] | Shadow__X: | relax there |
| [06:47:21] | brian|lfs: | I"m relaxed lol |
| [06:47:49] | brian|lfs: | big trade off if I can't get my streams my ceton eth 6 to my tvs with linux either |
| [06:48:01] | Shadow__X: | you can try your channels, pull up whatever view you can of your cable card tuner and see what it says for the channels you care about |
| [06:48:22] | brian|lfs: | already tested it |
| [06:48:28] | brian|lfs: | everything but movie channels worked |
| [06:48:34] | Shadow__X: | ok |
| [06:48:55] | Shadow__X: | do you actually want to record from there or just watch live tv? |
| [06:50:02] | brian|lfs: | be nice to be able to do both |
| [06:50:19] | brian|lfs: | but live tv would be a start if I could at least play recordings back |
| [06:50:21] | Shadow__X: | have you setup mythtv before? |
| [06:50:35] | brian|lfs: | ya got in on my other box |
| [06:50:59] | brian|lfs: | glad I didn't wipe windows after I discovered that pay channels wouldn't work |
| [06:51:36] | Shadow__X: | the movie channels? |
| [06:51:43] | brian|lfs: | correct |
| [06:52:04] | Shadow__X: | so if they are flagged as copy once or whatever, you won't be able to recoord them with linux |
| [06:52:22] | Shadow__X: | you can however, use something like a hauppauge hd pvr to record from a cable box directly |
| [06:52:25] | brian|lfs: | that's not terrible they show the same movies over and over |
| [06:52:29] | Shadow__X: | over analog component |
| [06:52:53] | brian|lfs: | problem with that is cable box fees |
| [06:53:03] | Shadow__X: | ok.. |
| [06:53:21] | Shadow__X: | if you want to record the premiums withou the cable box fees, then use windows mce |
| [06:53:22] | brian|lfs: | I'm in the USA on Verizon FIOS by the way |
| [06:53:58] | Shadow__X: | if you don't care about premiums you can use mythtv, just know that you should take your time with the install and read the manual |
| [06:54:27] | brian|lfs: | I followed a guide somewhere it seems tow ork fine |
| [06:54:28] | Shadow__X: | while the mythtv distros are pretty straight forward/ people get hung up on mythtv installation because they click click click without reading |
| [06:55:34] | brian|lfs: | so no premium to get the stream to my TVs is there a way |
| [06:55:45] | Shadow__X: | what |
| [06:55:59] | brian|lfs: | mythbox is on a PC |
| [06:56:14] | Shadow__X: | myhtv frontend? |
| [06:56:19] | brian|lfs: | and the ceton echos only see to work with MC |
| [06:56:40] | Shadow__X: | because they are for windows media center |
| [06:56:49] | brian|lfs: | correct |
| [06:56:58] | brian|lfs: | so is there a hack around that |
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| [06:57:17] | Shadow__X: | so you bought a product that was designed to work with windows media center, but you don't infact want to use it with windows media center? |
| [06:57:36] | brian|lfs: | well everything is windows |
| [06:57:40] | Shadow__X: | i don't know of anything that would let you use the echos with anything other than windows media center |
| [06:57:42] | brian|lfs: | unfortuantely |
| [06:57:55] | Shadow__X: | what? you can buy a pc and install linux on it |
| [06:58:12] | brian|lfs: | and connect it to the first box correct? |
| [06:58:51] | Shadow__X: | connect what to the first box |
| [06:59:03] | brian|lfs: | the additional PCs for the TVs |
| [06:59:26] | Shadow__X: | each tv would need a myth frontend machine |
| [06:59:36] | brian|lfs: | understood |
| [06:59:45] | Shadow__X: | that machine needs to be networked with the mythtv backend |
| [06:59:56] | brian|lfs: | that's what I meant by connect |
| [06:59:58] | Shadow__X: | if you want to use the echo's, why don't you just use windows? |
| [07:00:20] | brian|lfs: | I am for now no choice |
| [07:00:25] | Shadow__X: | ok |
| [07:00:47] | brian|lfs: | it seems they need to fix the cablecard laws |
| [07:00:51] | Shadow__X: | you just wanted to see what else was out there? |
| [07:00:52] | brian|lfs: | toa llow more then just windows |
| [07:01:11] | Shadow__X: | i am not sure thats a law, its how they handle the encryption |
| [07:01:13] | brian|lfs: | exactly |
| [07:01:29] | brian|lfs: | well mythtv is popular |
| [07:01:37] | brian|lfs: | they need to find a way to handle the encryption |
| [07:01:46] | Shadow__X: | yes, as popular as build your own dvr's are anyway |
| [07:01:54] | brian|lfs: | lol |
| [07:01:54] | Shadow__X: | its not something for mythtv to figure out |
| [07:02:24] | brian|lfs: | well isn't the encyption a license thing |
| [07:02:33] | Shadow__X: | afaik legally they can't save the stream without keeping the encryption |
| [07:02:51] | Shadow__X: | mythtv would have to follow the copy once flag |
| [07:05:43] | brian|lfs: | so do you use mythtv? |
| [07:06:25] | Shadow__X: | yes |
| [07:07:04] | Shadow__X: | i have been using mythtv since 2007 iirc |
| [07:07:22] | brian|lfs: | so your ok with no movie channels? |
| [07:07:56] | Shadow__X: | when i had the premiums, i used a hauppauge hd pvr to record the premiums over component through a stb |
| [07:08:47] | brian|lfs: | ah ok well everything is HD now |
| [07:09:01] | Shadow__X: | hd pvr does up to 1080i |
| [07:09:09] | Shadow__X: | sure its over analog but thats still hd |
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| [14:13:52] | grumpydevil: | stuartm, i think recording rule display is work in progress? |
| [14:15:27] | stuartm: | yes |
| [14:16:06] | grumpydevil: | i get about the first 10 |
| [14:16:27] | grumpydevil: | did not really count, and depending on the sort i get first or last |
| [14:19:31] | stuartm: | grumpydevil: ah, ok, that bit worked until the other day, looks like I broke it |
| [14:19:55] | grumpydevil: | part of the game ;) |
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| [14:40:00] | stuartm: | fixed |
| [15:09:37] | grumpydevil: | notices an uipdate pass by ;) |
| [15:11:34] | grumpydevil: | compilation ongoing... |
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| [18:37:36] | rOOb: | Hello all. I'm running v0.27.4-27-g40506c2 on Ubuntu 14.04. For some reason mythbackend is constantely using 100–150% cpu(quad core system). |
| [18:37:44] | rOOb: | The system has 4 gigs of ram and has a Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz |
| [18:37:53] | rOOb: | Everytime I check the system it's using that much cpu so I don't think it's something like running mythfilldatabase |
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| [18:42:15] | buu: | rOOb: what does strace say the backend is doing? |
| [18:46:29] | rOOb: | buu I'm not exactly sure how to use strace |
| [18:46:52] | buu: | Well, first off install it, then try: sudo strace -p <mythbackend pid> |
| [18:46:59] | rOOb: | ahh ok |
| [18:47:03] | buu: | It'll print out a lot of stuff. Some of it might be useful. |
| [18:48:14] | rOOb: | buu Whats a good amount of time to let it run for? 5–10 mins? |
| [18:48:55] | buu: | er |
| [18:49:00] | buu: | Is it displaying things? |
| [18:49:15] | buu: | 30 seconds should be more than enough |
| [18:49:28] | rOOb: | So far its only printed: http://pastebin.com/Sh62hKxv |
| [18:49:48] | rOOb: | From top: |
| [18:49:49] | rOOb: | 2001 mythtv 20 0 4844304 7524 2424 S 153.1 0.2 4294:25 mythbackend |
| [18:49:54] | buu: | Huh |
| [18:50:18] | buu: | Try uh htop? |
| [18:50:23] | buu: | Which one displays threads |
| [18:51:01] | rOOb: | Hmm I'm not sure. Let me install htp[ |
| [18:51:03] | rOOb: | *htop |
| [18:51:53] | buu: | Yeah, then hit f5 |
| [18:52:19] | rOOb: | Just read that |
| [18:53:19] | rOOb: | One sec. |
| [18:54:29] | rOOb: | http://puu.sh/ftdH1/fd3b1e1c22.png |
| [18:54:53] | rOOb: | Not sure if that helps at all |
| [18:55:15] | buu: | So it looks like 2213 is the culprit? |
| [18:55:24] | rOOb: | Yea |
| [18:55:27] | rOOb: | strace on that? |
| [18:55:32] | buu: | Yeah.. |
| [18:55:37] | buu: | I'm not sure its a pid |
| [18:55:48] | rOOb: | Ohh |
| [18:55:49] | rOOb: | Yea |
| [18:56:07] | buu: | Oh, I gues it is |
| [18:56:08] | rOOb: | Ok |
| [18:56:11] | rOOb: | It's going crazy |
| [18:56:12] | rOOb: | lol |
| [18:56:13] | buu: | anything interesting? |
| [18:56:37] | rOOb: | http://pastebin.com/DfEXrSZ7 |
| [18:56:51] | rOOb: | Looks like a bad mysql query? |
| [18:57:28] | buu: | rOOb: these are system(kernel) functions |
| [18:57:34] | rOOb: | Ohh |
| [18:57:34] | buu: | so select is the C level one |
| [18:57:46] | rOOb: | Thats a bit beyond my skill level hehe |
| [18:57:54] | rOOb: | I just saw select and NULL lol |
| [18:58:58] | buu: | Yeah.. |
| [18:59:23] | buu: | So as far as I can tell its attempting to read from a socket, constantly, instead of waiting for new data to show up |
| [18:59:30] | buu: | But I don't know nearly enough about mythtv to understand why |
| [18:59:55] | rOOb: | Ahh. Well, I appreciate your help so far. You where able to find out much more information that I would have. |
| [19:00:02] | rOOb: | I suppose someone else here may know more and chime in |
| [19:00:34] | buu: | rOOb: Um, quick question. What does: ls /proc/2213/fd say? |
| [19:00:52] | buu: | Or better yet, ls -l |
| [19:01:12] | rOOb: | http://pastebin.com/LfGqmmEW |
| [19:01:30] | rOOb: | Sec |
| [19:01:34] | buu: | Ok, what is 39 pointing at? |
| [19:01:53] | rOOb: | http://pastebin.com/NmHL3tDv |
| [19:02:05] | rOOb: | lrwx------ 1 mythtv mythtv 64 Feb 4 14:00 38 -> anon_inode:[eventfd] |
| [19:02:07] | rOOb: | err |
| [19:02:13] | rOOb: | lrwx------ 1 mythtv mythtv 64 Feb 4 14:00 39 -> socket:[14158] |
| [19:02:44] | buu: | heh |
| [19:03:13] | buu: | And that's where my detective skills stop |
| [19:03:18] | rOOb: | haha |
| [19:03:38] | rOOb: | Mine stopped after top, dmesg, restart myth/mysql hehe |
| [19:03:42] | buu: | stuartm: Help! |
| [19:06:21] | stuartm: | I've only got a minute, but try enabling all logging on mythbackend and seeing what, if anything, it says |
| [19:06:32] | stuartm: | "-v most --loglevel=debug" |
| [19:07:54] | buu: | rOOb: Is there anything that you know of that occurs to cause this? Does it just instantly use 100% cpu as soon as you launch it? |
| [19:08:59] | rOOb: | buu It seems like when I launch it it goes to 100% |
| [19:09:08] | rOOb: | stuartm ok I will see about turning that on |
| [19:11:08] | rOOb: | Hmm. Should I manually start mythbackend or is there a way to specify the loggin level(system is ubuntu 14.04) |
| [19:11:29] | buu: | I'd just manually start it |
| [19:11:34] | buu: | Assuming you can stop it, heh |
| [19:11:34] | rOOb: | Ok |
| [19:13:11] | rOOb: | Ok I started mythbackend as user mythtv with -v most --loglevel=debug |
| [19:13:28] | rOOb: | Hmm...should I be piping this output to a log file? lol |
| [19:15:09] | buu: | Uh, probably |
| [19:15:18] | buu: | I don't know how mythtv logs things =[ |
| [19:15:34] | rOOb: | In the other top it lists --syslog local7 |
| [19:15:41] | rOOb: | I'm assuming that is what logs it to file |
| [19:15:47] | rOOb: | Going to throw that onto the command and see |
| [19:16:25] | rOOb: | Bingo |
| [19:17:44] | rOOb: | Still not logging 100% what it being output to terminal. I'll just pipe output into a file |
| [19:22:08] | rOOb: | I'm going to let this run for a bit and will post a log in here in a little while. I'll ping your nicks when I do. |
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| [21:47:01] | rOOb: | stuartm http://paste.ubuntu.com/10060661/ |
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| [21:54:08] | stuartm: | unfortunately nothing stands out there as an obvious cause of high load |
| [21:54:40] | stuartm: | you should fix your starting channel setting in mythtv-setup, it's currently set to start on channel number "Please add" |
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| [22:19:01] | grumpydevil: | stuartm, one thing missing in recording rules edit is the ability to edit the power search selection criteria |
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