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[12:25:57] voyo: hi, I have small troubles running mythtv-setup. All checkboxes are extremaly small, and seems that cannont be checked, Im not sure what Im missing. I tried 0.27+fixes and 0.28 from git, both same issue. No visible error messages on console :/
[12:27:57] voyo: and actually same thing is within mythfrontend.
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[15:40:20] Shadow__X: voyo: sounds like a resolution/dpi thing
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[16:23:45] voyo: Shadow__X: actually probbaly yes, I partially figured this out. when I come to TV (a big one) where it is plugged I noticed tiny-tiny 'checks'
[16:24:04] voyo: it was absolutly not visible via VNC
[16:25:20] voyo: however no idea how to change this... when I used mythtv about 1–2 years ago (version probably 0.25 or so) it was always visible.
[16:25:44] voyo: I think its somewhere probably in themes or so, I think..
[16:27:20] Shadow__X: maybe
[16:28:14] voyo: everything else is clearly visible, all icons and messages. but not checkboxes. stupid :/
[16:29:35] Shadow__X: never had that issue
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[19:07:31] skd5aner: wagnerrp: with mythexport, I'm getting TV shows that are constantly moved as a movie with a different title. It takes a lot of work to manually go fix it. Any ideas on how to prevent it from doing it in the first place?
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[20:00:56] skd5aner: !Seen RDVlinux
[20:00:56] MythLogBot: RDVlinux has not been seen here
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[20:40:26] Quantum`: I'm getting tons of errors "{filename}.mpg should be local but it cannot be found."
[20:40:58] Quantum`: Seems to be in the database, but not on disk. There's some cryptic way of removing these, but I can't remember how.
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[20:41:49] [R]: touch the fie
[20:41:51] [R]: then reove it
[20:43:07] Quantum`: O
[20:45:29] Quantum`: Also, Tuner Status says mu Hauppauge HVR-1250 has an error. The cx23886 driver is loaded and lspci shows it there just fine.
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[20:57:23] Quantum`: Game starts soon, and I might miss it because of this. Anyone have a Hauppauge WinTV card on Myth?
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[21:03:22] stuartm: Quantum`: have you tried unloading the driver and reloading it?
[21:04:35] stuartm: it will be one of two things, the driver has got stuck in a bad state or there is a permissions issue
[21:05:22] stuartm: for an existing system, it's most likely to be the former
[21:05:32] Quantum`: Rebooted many times.
[21:05:51] Quantum`: Permissions are video group rw and user is in the video group.
[21:07:05] Quantum`: But when I lsmod |grep cx, it's not just loading the cs23885, but also the cx 25840.
[21:07:20] stuartm: cat /dev/video0
[21:07:21] Quantum`: I wonder if the latter is comflicting?
[21:07:50] Quantum`: yoykes, lots of stuff.
[21:08:05] stuartm: ok, just means the card is probably working OK
[21:08:21] Quantum`: So that's it, not /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0?
[21:09:20] stuartm: well the hvr has two interfaces, analogue (NTSC) and DVB, could be that two different drivers are used for the different tuners
[21:09:32] stuartm: I've no experience of the HVR-1250
[21:09:54] stuartm: the /dev/dvb interface is the ATSC one
[21:10:06] stuartm: is the aerial still connected?
[21:10:24] stuartm: that's another surprisingly common issue, cable has come loose
[21:10:42] Quantum`: Y. I'll try rmmod cx25840.
[21:13:27] Quantum`: Dang, it's not rmmoding. (in use by something invisible). Have to reboot.
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[21:32:24] Quantum`: Looks like I'm Ok now. it wasn't the extra module of ivtv-utils not being installed. Indeed a permissions problem.
[21:32:51] Quantum`: Seems that the mythtv user has to be in the video group. I thought it was just my user that had to.
[21:32:59] Quantum`: Thanks stuartm.
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[21:49:34] dj_segfault: Hi. I had a hard drive crash and rebuilt my mythtv-backend. Unfortunately the server came up with a different IP address. No matter what I try to change, all my front ends want to access the old IP address. What controls the address of the back end that the front end tries to connect to?
[21:50:20] Quantum`: It's in mythtv-setup
[21:50:34] Quantum`: Stop the daemon and run that as your user.
[21:50:41] dj_segfault: I thought mythtv-setup configures the BACK end not the front end
[21:50:51] Quantum`: Whups, misunderstood.
[21:51:13] dj_segfault: NP
[21:51:15] Quantum`: Prob in frontend setup then
[21:51:58] [R]: the frontend's config for the database is in ~/.mythtv
[21:52:09] [R]: it should be doing upnp to find it if its wrong though
[21:52:39] stuartm: dj_segfault: the frontends use the backend IP configured in mythtv-setup, if the wrong IP is set there they won't be able to connect
[21:53:31] Quantum`: stuartm: But how would a frontend on another machine know where the daemon is?
[21:53:44] Quantum`: Maybe thru the database connexion?
[21:53:55] Quantum`: (which is set in frontend's setup)
[21:54:02] dj_segfault: I changed the database connection to the right IP address already
[21:54:21] stuartm: [R]: it's a little silly but the frontends only store the details of the database server, they then query that to get the backend IP address, even the auto-discovery feature only supplies the database info to the frontend, which then queries that instead – it's one of those quirky things that I've been meaning to fix for a while
[21:54:43] Quantum`: So it is mythtv-setup
[21:54:52] stuartm: dj_segfault: you still need to change the ip in the first page of the General settings in mythtv-setup
[21:55:38] stuartm: maybe I'll sort out that mess for the next release ...
[21:56:49] dj_segfault: The General page has DB parameters not backend parameters
[21:57:29] Quantum`: No, stop your daemon, then run mythtv-setup as your user.
[21:57:45] dj_segfault: On the front end machine?
[21:57:50] Quantum`: No.
[21:58:02] Quantum`: You have to change the backend.
[21:58:09] Quantum`: (daemon)
[21:59:30] Quantum`: Like stuartm said, the daemon is set to the IP, and when you start a frontend it queries the database to find out where the daemon ("backend") is.
[22:00:02] Quantum`: The database is on the same machine as the daemon.
[22:00:27] stuartm: not necessarily, but the database contains the connection information for the backend
[22:00:32] dj_segfault: Ah, OK
[22:01:31] Quantum`: Time to order a pizza, for the whozamajiggies vs the whazits...
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[22:02:00] [R]: is that foosball game starting?
[22:02:03] [R]: i'm waatching the kitten bowl
[22:02:08] stuartm: dj_segfault: I know it's a little backwards, as I mentioned above, given the time I'd like to improve it, maybe even lose the ip setting completely and rely entirely on the auto-discovery capability so your backend could change IPs and the frontends would automatically re-acquire it
[22:02:09] [R]: much more interesting
[22:02:11] AndyCap: handegg game?
[22:02:15] Quantum`: In about an hour. Is it football?
[22:02:36] [R]: its jsut a bunch of cat running around
[22:02:43] [R]: theres all kinds of balls over the place
[22:03:07] stuartm: https://xkcd.com/1480/
[22:03:17] Quantum`: stuartm: Please don't make it automatic. I set the daemon to localhost, and then serve that to other machines through reverse SSH tunnels.
[22:04:07] Quantum`: A client machine reaches into its bellybutton and pulls out the ports, thinking they're local.
[22:04:15] stuartm: Quantum`: there's an xkcd reference for that too – https://xkcd.com/1172/
[22:05:13] Quantum`: Nah, it's worked perfectly for the 8 years I've been addicted to Myth.
[22:05:35] dj_segfault: stuartm: Quantum` Thank you, that was it!
[22:06:58] [R]: omg, regis is on the kitten bowl, he looks super old
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[22:10:45] dj_segfault: Are they gonna throw Regis in there and let all the cats attack him?
[22:13:34] [R]: lol
[22:14:01] AndyCap: where's the kitten bowl?
[22:14:08] [R]: hallmark channel
[22:15:18] dj_segfault: Oh joy. mythweb has YET ANOTHER file with the database parameters in it instead of linking to the backend config file. THAT's why it's not working
[22:17:02] [R]: how would it "link to the backend config"?
[22:19:15] dj_segfault: There's a /var/www/.mythtv directory which has a symlink to the config.xml under /etc/mythtv. However, /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb has a config file in it with the DB parameters in it. I just changed that file and restarted apache2 and it still can't connect to the DB though.
[22:19:53] [R]: its probably using one in /etc
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[22:21:46] dj_segfault: The back end is working so the config in /etc/mythtv is right
[22:22:12] [R]: webservers dont use /etc/mythtv...
[22:22:25] [R]: nor do they use /usr/share
[22:22:44] [R]: unless your system is extrmeley stupidly set up
[22:22:54] dj_segfault: Ah, I found that, yes there's /etc/apache2/sites-available.... I'll fix that one. That must be it
[22:24:45] dj_segfault: So fixing that file worked. However during the install it asked me if mythweb should be password protected but I was not prompted for a password. I'll fix that later
[22:24:53] dj_segfault: Thanks for your help
[22:25:23] dj_segfault: I assume I can just drop digest auth in there using the normal means
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[23:34:32] RedPenguin: Do you normally have to stop USB Dongle Tuners from allowing to sleep when using them with MythTV?
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