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[06:08:47] lautriv: was there some change to NOT use /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt anymore ?
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[06:19:54] lautriv: [R], hi, do you know if /etc/mythtv/mysql.txt is still used ?
[06:20:10] [R]: /etc/mythv/mysql.txt was never used by mythtv
[06:21:20] lautriv: [R], heh it's a leftover from some stoneage and i found it googling about my issue too.
[06:25:09] lautriv: ok, the other way ........ mythfrontend reads /home/user/.mythtv/config.xml but tries to call the backend always on localhost, regardless of that setting ?
[06:26:03] [R]: its gonna do wahtever the database says
[06:26:54] lautriv: the database is on another box, works for other frontends but this new one won't do anything.
[06:27:53] lautriv: beside that, having DB-setup in DB is BF.
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[06:56:13] lautriv: anyone else awake ?
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[14:36:26] sceo-laptop: When I pull up the xv controls it only shows me volume, but nothing else. (I want to adjust brightness, contrast, etc). Seems like there used to be a setting to enable this but it's not where it seems to be documented to be. xdpyinfo confirms that XVideo extension is loaded.
[14:38:54] MaliutaLap: sceo-laptop: brightness, contrast etc are normally monitor specifiv
[14:42:49] sceo-laptop: MaliutaLap: these are like the xv picture controls that are built into myth tho
[14:42:50] stuartm: sceo-laptop: volume shouldn't be in the xv controls? During playback, Menu > Video > Adjust Picture
[14:43:10] stuartm: although I think it's better to calibrate the screen instead
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[14:45:31] stuartm: adjust levels in software IMHO defeats the whole point
[14:47:54] stuartm: made some sense back when everything from TV, to the signals sent from the video card to the screen were analogue, but when it's all digital any adjustments just alter the picture from how it's supposed to look
[14:48:29] sceo-laptop: stuartm: I have certain videos that are too dark, it doesn't make sense to adjust the whole TV's brightness, etc when I can quickly do it on my remote just when the kids watch Frozen
[14:48:57] sceo-laptop: interestingly, though – I do not have "Adjust Picture" in Menu > Video
[14:50:13] sceo-laptop: I'm trying to do what's mapped to the "f" key, FWIW
[14:52:32] stuartm: nothing is mapped to that key here, but picture controls – if they are available for the renderer (xv controls are useless for vdpau, vaapi) are accessible through the OSD menu
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[14:56:17] sceo-laptop: stuartm: and is the renderer like wha'ts set up like 'ffmpeg & Xvideo' (that's what mine is set to for all resolutions)
[14:56:40] stuartm: yes, XVideo would be the renderer in that case
[14:58:01] stuartm: it's the worst of the renderers, 20 years old, we've often talked about phasing out because it can't do high res OSD on low res material
[14:58:43] MaliutaLap: Xvideo, hmm. I use vdpau now
[15:02:32] stuartm: 1991 was when it was designed, so 24 years old, ancient tech based on what was required when VGA and 16bit colour was the height of technology
[15:03:25] stuartm: these days all GPUs offer video rendering through either vdpau or vaapi which is significantly better in every respect
[15:10:01] MaliutaLap: ahh 16 bit colour – them was the days
[15:10:04] sceo-laptop: hmm... well i've had this myth setup a long time :)
[15:10:32] stuartm: these days we're seeing upto 10 bits per color channel (30–40 bits overall), compared with 4 bits in 1991 (16bit) and 8 bits throughout the 2000s (24bit sometimes incorrectly called 32bit colour)
[15:11:02] MaliutaLap: sceo-laptop: second hand NVIDIA cards that will do vdpau are cheap enough :)
[15:11:02] sceo-laptop: I think since... around 2004? wow. started on a PVR-350. I've done some re-installs since then of course, but maybe my assumptions about renders were bad. I'm using onboard video but there must be a GPU. Maybe I should switch profiles :) I adjusted my brightness on the TV and stuff... I guess that's the solution.
[15:13:12] stuartm: sceo-laptop: depends on the age of the GPU and drivers, NVidia's VDPAU was only supported from the 8000 series up, not sure about Intel/AMD support for vaapi
[15:14:46] stuartm: we recommend nvidia cards for vdpau, it's the most mature, best understood and supported renderer, plus Nvidia drivers are the best and they support their older models for much longer than AMD do
[15:15:17] MaliutaLap: VDPAU works on my GT 520
[15:15:42] stuartm: works fine on the onboard 8200 I have in my production box
[15:15:45] MaliutaLap: yeah, I got the shits with the AMD/ATI drivers a while back
[15:16:05] stuartm: but nvidia stopped making onboard gpus a few years back
[15:16:20] MaliutaLap: It's a pity that Intel don't make cards you can install in a box
[15:17:29] MaliutaLap: I tend to buy boards without onboard, and then put a mid range card in the box
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[15:21:16] MaliutaLap: I also tend to have a few matched pairs of NVIDIA cards sitting about. Because I use match pairs in my desktop, so when I upgrade I have spares.
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[15:25:14] sceo-laptop: Yeah so what happened was my sweet/quiet box with the sweet Nvidia +GPU – well, the nvidia card crapped the bed
[15:25:26] sceo-laptop: so I had to switch out the whole box for this
[15:26:07] sceo-laptop: so I switched to high profile, using VAAPI and it's working (a) like a champ but (b) my picture controls are back, too :)
[15:26:22] sceo-laptop: not sure if they should be – does it make sense to have xv picture controls with vaapi?
[15:26:35] sceo-laptop: or have I just caused it to fall back to ffmpeg xvideo somehow
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[15:57:17] sceo-laptop: Next issue – I'm trying to get a development backend set up in an Ubuntu VM, and since I want to develop I'm trying to build from source (git master). I've followed the stuff on the wiki page, but when I try to run mythbackend, I've got errors: "No address defined for host: localhost" and "No address defined for host: mythdev" and "MythSocket: Failed to connect to ::1:: on port 6543" (that last one is paraphrased). Probably
[15:57:19] sceo-laptop: something in my config.xml? I did see it update the schema on one of the first tries, so I think it's not mysql.txt. What am I missing?
[15:58:27] stuartm: sceo-laptop: those picture controls would be the vaapi ones
[15:58:45] stuartm: check the frontend log to see if it's falling back to xvideo
[15:59:09] stuartm: or Alt-D during playback should show the playback info
[15:59:34] stuartm: if it doesn't then you'll need to setup a binding in the frontend setup
[16:00:09] sceo-laptop: stuartm: great, then I win all around :)
[16:00:16] stuartm: "TV Playback > Debug OSD"
[16:01:06] stuartm: is the action you'd need to bind, it's useful to have bound to something as it can tell you all sorts of stuff about the video
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[16:56:53] sceo-laptop: can someone remind me how to access webfrontend?
[16:56:57] sceo-laptop: which port?
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