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| [02:01:43] | buu: | So uh |
| [02:01:46] | buu: | How do I make lirc work |
| [02:02:14] | Hydr0p0nX: | that's a pretty broad question |
| [02:03:29] | buu: | Thanks! |
| [02:03:36] | buu: | So I have a receiver and a remote |
| [02:03:43] | buu: | And I have ir-keytables reporting input |
| [02:03:47] | buu: | But irw shows nothing |
| [02:04:15] | Hydr0p0nX: | this that same philips ir receiver/remote ? |
| [02:04:39] | buu: | Yes! |
| [02:08:02] | Hydr0p0nX: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2205263 says ir-keytables should be enough |
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| [02:12:16] | buu: | "Protocol RC6_MCE invalid" |
| [02:12:17] | buu: | wtf |
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| [02:21:46] | Hydr0p0nX: | wow |
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| [02:22:18] | Hydr0p0nX: | on 14.04 ? |
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| [02:25:20] | buu: | Yeah.. |
| [02:25:29] | buu: | So uh |
| [02:29:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2205263 |
| [02:29:28] | Hydr0p0nX: | that has someone having a similar issue |
| [02:30:46] | buu: | Oh |
| [02:30:51] | buu: | Well, that's how that works |
| [02:32:21] | Hydr0p0nX: | I haven't worked w/ 14.04 much |
| [02:32:47] | buu: | I AM A HERO |
| [02:32:56] | buu: | A divine mastermind |
| [02:32:57] | buu: | Etc |
| [02:32:58] | buu: | =] |
| [02:33:06] | Hydr0p0nX: | get it working? |
| [02:33:55] | buu: | Yeah |
| [02:33:57] | buu: | Without lirc |
| [02:34:06] | buu: | I just modified the keytable file |
| [02:34:43] | Hydr0p0nX: | I think that was basically the solution in that article |
| [02:35:10] | buu: | Yeah.. |
| [02:35:26] | buu: | Except now mythtv doesn't understand some of the keycodes |
| [02:35:48] | buu: | hrm |
| [02:36:06] | buu: | Ha, there we go. |
| [02:37:13] | buu: | lol |
| [02:41:25] | buu: | Hydr0p0nX: http://imgur.com/AfApTF5 |
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| [02:43:48] | Hydr0p0nX: | nice |
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| [09:27:52] | jarnos: | Does the data transfer via router even if backend and frontend are in the same machine, if backend is setup not to have the loopback address? |
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| [10:30:31] | map7: | I'm getting a 'could not connect' error on a remote mythfrontend 0.27.4 |
| [10:30:54] | map7: | My mythtv backend is on 10.1.1.10 and the remote frontend is on 10.1.1.9 |
| [10:31:22] | map7: | I've setup the backend to point to 10.1.1.10 in mythtv-setup in both IPv4 & Master Backend IP |
| [10:31:29] | map7: | and set the security PIN to 0000 |
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| [10:32:04] | map7: | I can use mysql on the remote machine to connect to mythconverg on the backend, but mythfrontend doesn't want to connect |
| [10:40:11] | map7: | I've also granted access in mysql to the mythtv user for all IP addresses '%' and all computers on my domain |
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| [11:33:11] | map7: | Got it working, no problem |
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| [16:47:21] | jarnos: | How does mythtv detect LCD device meant in frontend settings? http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/User_Manual:Detail . . . vice_display |
| [16:48:28] | tgm4883: | jarnos: it's not talking about a TV |
| [16:48:57] | jarnos: | tgm4883, but how about laptop PC's screen? |
| [16:49:44] | tgm4883: | jarnos: I don't believe that would work either. It's talking about something like this http://www.adafruit.com/products/181 |
| [16:49:59] | tgm4883: | that's what i've seen that used on |
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| [16:57:20] | jarnos: | tgm4883, oh, I see |
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| [20:53:53] | koffel: | is there a way to boost record volume on a hdpvr 1212 |
| [20:54:08] | [R]: | the hdpvr records digital volume... |
| [20:54:17] | [R]: | wahtever it gets is what it records |
| [20:54:25] | koffel: | ok |
| [20:54:30] | koffel: | well damn |
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| [22:35:58] | niceties: | EIT crawl really does a lot of crawling but gathers hardly anything. And it never stops |
| [22:36:58] | [R]: | that sounds unfortunate |
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| [22:37:07] | niceties: | You would think EIT crawl would gather a few hours of listings per day then stop crawling. |
| [22:37:30] | [R]: | it depends on what's available |
| [22:38:12] | niceties: | I use broadcast atsc only about 70 channels |
| [22:39:09] | [R]: | atsc generally has garbage eti |
| [22:39:42] | niceties: | I never noticed it with internal tuner. Hdhomerun is when I noticed network traffic never ending. Found out its the crawl of mythtv |
| [22:41:03] | niceties: | It gathers the EIT information. But never just says logically. That's enough for now and stops crawling |
| [22:41:38] | tgm4883: | niceties: how much is "enough for now" |
| [22:42:55] | niceties: | tgm4883: maybe once a day. Or a setting in mythtv asking for maybe a few hours or more of listings |
| [22:43:34] | tgm4883: | niceties: well one day probably isn't enough. Especially since EIT in the US usually is only 12 hours or so |
| [22:43:55] | tgm4883: | some places do more, but it's really a crapshoot |
| [22:44:15] | niceties: | tgm4883: it gathers about a week of EIT listings but it runs forever. |
| [22:44:37] | tgm4883: | well if you are in the US and are getting a weeks worth of EIT then you are lucky |
| [22:45:18] | ** tgm4883 doesn't deal with EIT because it's complete garbage for him ** | |
| [22:46:59] | niceties: | tgm4883: it's there to use and a great feature that works with atsc. No other tv software I am aware of can pull EIT from atsc |
| [22:47:29] | tgm4883: | niceties: where are you located? |
| [22:47:59] | niceties: | I used that mc2xml before with a corn job once a day. |
| [22:48:18] | niceties: | tgm4883: Pennsylvania USA |
| [22:48:41] | tgm4883: | cool that you get some semi-good EIT data |
| [22:48:56] | niceties: | CRON not corn. |
| [22:49:00] | tgm4883: | but it's generally garbage for people in the USA |
| [22:49:11] | tgm4883: | niceties: yea I'm not really a fan on mc2xml |
| [22:51:00] | niceties: | It works good. It says it does not gather sub atsc channels unless you buy a New version. But I used the free one and it gathered the sub channels. |
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| [22:51:32] | niceties: | tgm4883: takes more setup. |
| [22:52:05] | tgm4883: | I'm not a fan of it because of the ToS violations it started from |
| [22:52:14] | tgm4883: | I see they expanded to other services though |
| [22:53:01] | niceties: | tgm4883: it's a donation. You don't buy it if you want the newest version |
| [22:54:08] | tgm4883: | I don't care if they sell it or not, I'll pay for services. I don't like it because when it started, it violated the microsoft ToS for their guide data |
| [22:54:17] | niceties: | tgm4883: mythtv developers take your stand on using mc2xml. Its a violation and offer no help and remove all forum references to it |
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| [22:55:05] | niceties: | tgm4883: but others give advice. |
| [22:55:29] | tgm4883: | niceties: that's because some people don't care if something violates the ToS |
| [22:56:05] | niceties: | Yeah. Who can fight Microsoft with their money. Microsoft makes the laws now. |
| [22:56:39] | tgm4883: | niceties: do you really want to debate this? because I'm just reading though freeRADIUS documentation and I've got time |
| [22:57:57] | niceties: | I was just wondering how to stop EIT from crawling nonstop short of disabling it. |
| [22:58:44] | tgm4883: | in that case, IDK, because I don't use EIT |
| [22:59:02] | justinh: | you can either have constant EIT crawling or no EIT crawling at all |
| [22:59:20] | niceties: | What's freeradius |
| [22:59:32] | justinh: | why is it a bind of it's just running whenever it wants though? |
| [22:59:38] | justinh: | s/of/if/ |
| [23:00:16] | tgm4883: | niceties: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeRADIUS |
| [23:00:21] | niceties: | justinh: maybe the constant read writes to the hard drive is an issue |
| [23:00:39] | justinh: | niceties: meh. no it isn't |
| [23:01:36] | niceties: | justinh: where is all that data that's streaming out of the HDHOMERUN device going. |
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| [23:02:19] | justinh: | who cares? it's not much data. You're not gonna be causing appreciable levels of wear trickling data to the disk 24/7 |
| [23:03:33] | justinh: | my backend uses a mix of EIT data & xmltv data.. it's up 24/7, 365.. and has been for years. I've had one near catastrophic root disk failure, but pulled everything back in from a backup. I lost metadata for TWO recordings.. both soaps. |
| [23:03:56] | niceties: | justinh: maybe I am making a cry about not much. |
| [23:04:02] | justinh: | maybe you are :-) |
| [23:04:35] | justinh: | heck if I had to pay for decent guide data, especially at SD prices I'd do it |
| [23:05:20] | niceties: | Trying to figure out what freeradius is. |
| [23:05:38] | justinh: | looks like our 'free' online guide data sources aren't gonna be around forever in the UK, and we don't even have an option where we can pay :-/ |
| [23:07:33] | justinh: | niceties: from wikipedia: "Remote Authentication Dial In User Service (RADIUS) is a networking protocol that provides centralized Authentication, Authorization, and Accounting (AAA) management for users who connect and use a network service." |
| [23:07:49] | niceties: | justinh: I seen they moved something with SD. |
| [23:07:59] | justinh: | so freeRADIUS is an open source implentation of that ^^^ |
| [23:08:33] | niceties: | justinh: I probably am not smart enough to comprehend what all that means. |
| [23:08:57] | justinh: | oh nice.. gestures work on my touchpad out of the box on xubuntu |
| [23:09:54] | niceties: | Xubuntu should be pushed as main distro not unity |
| [23:10:18] | justinh: | niceties: basically, it's a framework to allow stuff like secure remote working |
| [23:11:32] | tgm4883: | yes that is what freeradius is |
| [23:12:02] | tgm4883: | I've got one setup that uses ldap as the backend, and I'm trying to get it to pass group info from LDAP back to the clients for wireless authentication |
| [23:12:08] | niceties: | justinh: all that security and it can be breached by a simple phone call by a person acting like a lost individual needing help |
| [23:12:12] | justinh: | from what I read about Ubuntu a while ago Unity is the last thing to be screaming hell about. heheh. Wayland or whatever sounds like nobody's idea of fun |
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| [23:15:15] | tgm4883: | Xubuntu (actually XFCE) doesn't fit the idea of converged devices |
| [23:15:29] | niceties: | justinh: I think wayland is long overdue. Hardware already uses openly standard. |
| [23:15:31] | tgm4883: | They (Canonical) had to build something new for that |
| [23:15:40] | tgm4883: | hence, Unity |
| [23:15:43] | niceties: | justinh: I think wayland is long overdue. Hardware already uses openLY standard. |
| [23:16:09] | niceties: | OPENgl not openly |
| [23:18:18] | justinh: | I use my laptop for things I can't do on my tablet. I don't want the same UI paradigm |
| [23:19:13] | tgm4883: | justinh: you wouldn't get the same UI paradigm |
| [23:19:48] | justinh: | have they changed the 'ooo you're on a laptop, so here are some huge menu buttons' thing? |
| [23:19:50] | tgm4883: | You would get a UI that was made for your display type (eg. phone/tablet/laptop/tv) |
| [23:19:57] | niceties: | No more gpu hardware issues. |
| [23:20:15] | tgm4883: | justinh: uh, I'm assuming you are talking about the netbook interface |
| [23:20:17] | justinh: | niceties: that's down to drivers, not X or anything else |
| [23:20:35] | justinh: | tgm4883: yeah. That rubbed me so far up the wrong way it was unreal |
| [23:20:46] | tgm4883: | justinh: and you only got that if you installed the netbook remix. It's not like it detected you had a netbook and gave you that interface |
| [23:21:08] | justinh: | really? ouch, talk about me making a terrible decision |
| [23:21:09] | niceties: | Isn't fedora using wayland |
| [23:21:13] | tgm4883: | justinh: yep |
| [23:21:40] | justinh: | anyhoo, I tried unity on a big desktop machine where I used to work & hated it. Ended up with KDE which wasn't perfect but I didn't hate it with venom |
| [23:22:11] | ** tgm4883 uses Unity at work across 2 19in 1920x1080 monitors ** | |
| [23:22:38] | tgm4883: | Unity does take a little getting used to. Especially if you used the first released version |
| [23:22:45] | tgm4883: | they've made some nice additions since then |
| [23:22:45] | justinh: | I've always thought the linux desktop was pretty much sorted out.. it's been audio that was lacking in ease of use & configuration. Pulseaudio/.. ugh |
| [23:24:00] | justinh: | mind, JACK was a cow to figure out, but easy once I did. |
| [23:24:13] | tgm4883: | meh, pulseaudio isn't that bad |
| [23:24:30] | tgm4883: | it was bad, but as most things it's gotten better |
| [23:24:41] | niceties: | They seem to be making an X11 emulator in wayland. I hate when they do that. They should just end x11. |
| [23:24:46] | justinh: | I need very low latency. PA can't let me have that on my hardware for some reason |
| [23:25:09] | tgm4883: | niceties: then you'd lose a bunch of apps |
| [23:25:38] | stuartm: | for me the biggest single issue with linux is still printers – nothing gives me more trouble that printing |
| [23:25:39] | justinh: | heh I still hate the whole PC legacy thing. Why isn't that fully dead yet? |
| [23:26:17] | niceties: | stuartm: I know. Brother and HP seem like a good choice |
| [23:26:23] | justinh: | stuartm: oh god no, I can faultlessly wirelessly print from my linux machine no bother.. EVERY TIME. In windows... it's almost going out of the window by the time it sucks the paper down |
| [23:27:15] | tgm4883: | HP printers FTW |
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| [23:27:48] | justinh: | found out my desktop machine really doesn't like my linux SSD though.. I open mixxx, it crashes hard with garbage onscreen. I open a browser, it crashes with garbage onscreen... |
| [23:28:40] | justinh: | must be the onboard nvidia.. and it's using the open source driver.. I'm not installing the nvidia driver on the SSD meant to run with my intel based laptop :) |
| [23:29:52] | justinh: | wireless anything is another thing I find works flawlessly on linux now.. when my laptop runs windows & I suspend it to RAM – about 1 time in 5 the wifi reconnects without using the troubleshooter tool |
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| [23:31:36] | justinh: | oh that is, except when I run a hotspot on my phone.. my linux laptop really doesn't like WPA2.. so if I'm in a bind I have to run the hotspot insecurely |
| [23:31:38] | stuartm: | niceties: I'm using a HP printer, and when it works it's great, but when it doesn't ... something in the print stack (and it's a huge stack) seems to get broken with every single upgrade |
| [23:34:39] | stuartm: | last issue was something in the postscript chain, there are a couple of current issues – 1) my laptop has suddenly stopped being able see the shared printer, just doesn't discover it and 2) the printer itself just stops responding, it seems to be something to do with the way the firmware is uploaded by the computer when the printer powers on |
| [23:35:10] | stuartm: | if I delete and re-add the printer it works fine until the first time I turn it off and then on again, after that it's unreachable |
| [23:35:49] | stuartm: | but these are just a few of the seemingly endless issues I've run into with printing on linux |
| [23:37:09] | stuartm: | as Torvald's once said something to the effect of "It's f'ing stupid that I need to enter a password just to install a printer" |
| [23:40:56] | stuartm: | that's not changed, root perms (or sudo) required just to manage a printer configuration? ... yeah, I'd happily set fire to the entire print stack and see it redesigned from scratch, even as something more monolithic than the dozens of assorted components all maintained by different groups which rarely seem to want to work together |
| [23:42:18] | justinh: | yeah I think printing on Linux is probably stuck in the 1960s |
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| [23:43:12] | justinh: | speaking about getting ragged off at having to enter a password just to install/configure stuff.. I should get round to messing with my sudoers file soon I think |
| [23:44:00] | tgm4883: | stuartm: uh, the root perms (or sudo) is a distro specific thing |
| [23:44:10] | tgm4883: | I don't need to enter my credentials to add a printer in Ubuntu |
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