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Sunday, January 4th, 2015, 00:12 UTC
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[01:32:13] Cubber: I just migrated my backend and when I launch mythfrontend while connected to the new backend I get an error on my screen saying disabling audio aoss error opening device ... If I switch the frontend back to the old backend audio works fine
[01:32:24] Cubber: this happens on both livetv and recordings
[01:36:23] Hydroponx: what version ?
[01:36:39] Cubber: 0.27.4_p20141018 on gentoo
[01:41:07] Hydroponx: what do the logs say ?
[01:43:38] Cubber: http://pastebin.com/1t64Le1w
[01:43:54] Cubber: that is frontend output
[01:47:16] Hydroponx: you build it or is it a binary install ?
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[01:50:06] Cubber: gentoo builds from source, installed through portage
[01:53:04] Hydroponx: might check your audio device
[01:53:08] Hydroponx: make sure it's set right
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[01:54:27] Cubber: My audio device on the client works fine. If I switch to the old backend it works perfectly, then if I change the setup of mythfrontend to the new backend I get the audio errors
[01:54:58] Cubber: if I do cat /dev/video0 > foo.mpeg and scp it over to a desktop I can see the video and hear the audio from teh capture card on the new backend as well
[01:55:01] Cubber: using vlc
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[02:10:03] Hydroponx: might run the frontend with verbose logging and see if it provides any additional details
[02:12:27] Hydroponx: that error seems to be most common when your audio device is mis-configured or myth was compiled without audio support
[02:14:16] Cubber: both the backend and frontend were compiled with audio
[02:14:22] Cubber: will try verbos on frontend output
[02:21:54] Cubber: https://bpaste.net/show/69e975a41b90 frontend connecting to new backend, will post another from same frontend to old backend where it works
[02:23:27] Cubber: one that works: https://bpaste.net/show/858d0d278655
[02:38:47] jab416171: this is driving me nuts, I can't watch recordings when I'm recording 3 shows, load is just way too high on the backend
[02:38:58] jab416171: it has 2GB of memory, is that sufficient?
[02:39:12] Hydroponx: cubber, check your audio settings when you are connected to each backend
[02:39:26] Hydroponx: in mythfrontend
[02:39:30] Cubber: ok
[02:39:31] jab416171: my BE and FE are on separate machines
[02:39:54] Hydroponx: jab416171, what kind of tuner and what is "it" ? also, is this myth 0.27 ?
[02:40:08] jab416171: Hydroponx, the backend does
[02:40:10] jab416171: yeah
[02:40:14] jab416171: tuner is hd homerun prime
[02:40:24] jab416171: the FE has 6GB
[02:40:46] jab416171: when I try to open a recording when the BE has high load, it just says "failed to open file x"
[02:41:12] jab416171: I should add that my storage directory is on a NAS
[02:41:24] Hydroponx: it's possible 2GB isn't enough for 3 streams at once ...
[02:41:26] Cubber: Hydroponx you got it, was set to alsa:default on the new backend and needed to be pulseaudio
[02:41:30] Cubber: THANKS!!
[02:41:56] jab416171: Hydroponx, right now it's only using half a gig
[02:42:10] jab416171: and load is coming down (currently 4)
[02:42:42] Hydroponx: my backend has 8GB and 6 cores, but I have a ceton pci-e card and 3 frontends, including one combined
[02:43:41] jab416171: mine's got 2GB and 4 cores
[02:44:15] jab416171: it's a VM on a hypervisor, and I could give it more memory but I want to add some more VMs to it
[02:44:35] jab416171: load's around 3–4, it was in the 20s a little while ago
[02:44:46] Hydroponx: what kind of disk is it attached to?
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[02:45:06] jab416171: the hypervisor has a raid5
[02:45:23] Hydroponx: myth streams a recording of livetv
[02:45:39] jab416171: I'm not trying to watch livetv
[02:46:05] Hydroponx: 3 live tv streams works ok?
[02:46:16] jab416171: yeah, recording 3 shows is fine
[02:46:27] jab416171: it's when I try to watch any recording that it hangs and fails
[02:46:32] jab416171: (while also recording 3)
[02:47:03] Hydroponx: what's disk i/o look like ?
[02:47:30] Hydroponx: and how many disks in that raid5 ?
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[02:51:16] jab416171: there's very little cpu wait (on the VM anyway)
[02:51:18] jab416171: 4 disk
[02:51:46] jab416171: when I'm having this issue, I notice that mythpreviewgen is running and using up a lot of CPU
[02:52:03] jab416171: and I'm not storing the recordings on the raid, they're stored on a separate NAS
[02:53:36] Hydroponx: you're on mythtv 0.27.4?
[02:54:23] jab416171: 0.27-193-g8ee257c
[02:57:08] Hydroponx: that seems like it's an older release
[02:58:40] jab416171: Really? I just downloaded it 2 months ago.
[02:59:44] Hydroponx: could be wrong, I just see it referenced in forum posts from june asking about updating to 0.27.1
[03:00:47] jab416171: Hmm
[03:01:11] jab416171: Do I just need to run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?
[03:01:14] Hydroponx: mine says MythTV Version : v0.27.4-20-gbd762ef
[03:01:41] Hydroponx: mythbuntu ?
[03:01:41] jab416171: I guess the iso just has 27
[03:01:45] jab416171: Yeah
[03:02:02] Hydroponx: that should work
[03:02:19] Hydroponx: I've been on .4 for a while
[03:02:58] Hydroponx: not sure that it'll make a difference on your issue, but, if it's happening due to a bug it could help
[03:03:22] jab416171: Yeah that's true.
[03:04:08] jab416171: Now that I got the recording to start playing, load is around 8–9 and the video occasionally stutters and jumping forward is a lot slower than normal
[03:04:29] jab416171: It might just be a case of too much disk latency but I'm sure updating can't help.
[03:04:48] Hydroponx: what's the NAS config ?
[03:07:04] jab416171: It's a wd my cloud, 256mb of ram and dual core
[03:07:06] jab416171: Gig Ethernet
[03:09:29] Hydroponx: 2tb ?
[03:10:16] jab416171: 3tb
[03:15:17] Hydroponx: you're pushing ~13–19 MB/s per recording
[03:15:36] Hydroponx: it's possible you're waiting on disk
[03:16:03] jab416171: So 3 recording and one playing is 80MB/s?
[03:16:08] jab416171: That's a lot
[03:18:01] jab416171: Occasionally it'll get so bad that the recordings get interrupted
[03:20:10] Hydroponx: yea, neweggs specs say 6–8GB disk space per hour of HDTV recording (when using third party compatible software)
[03:21:06] jab416171: On the home run?
[03:21:11] Hydroponx: yep
[03:21:26] jab416171: Yeah, 30 minute recordings are 2–3GB
[03:24:33] jab416171: 8gb/hour is only 2MB/s
[03:24:58] Hydroponx: yea, 2MB/s is ~16–17Mb/s
[03:25:24] Hydroponx: but, you have 4 individual files being written/read off a single disk
[03:25:31] Hydroponx: in real time
[03:25:45] jab416171: Oh, you capitalized the b last time
[03:25:52] Hydroponx: typo :)
[03:26:01] jab416171: An important one
[03:26:12] Hydroponx: yea
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[03:26:41] jab416171: I should just add storage directly to the hypervisor
[03:26:51] jab416171: How hard is it to move recordings?
[03:27:09] jab416171: And if I remove a storage group can I still play recordings from it?
[03:27:49] Hydroponx: possible to just change the mountpoint?
[03:28:27] Hydroponx: In my case, I have 4 mount points /myth_storage/a, /b, /c, /d with a storage group under each
[03:29:12] jab416171: You're saying just move the files to the new group and mount it in the same place?
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[03:29:27] Hydroponx: that's what I do
[03:29:55] jab416171: Yeah that would be the easiest
[03:30:00] Hydroponx: so if I need to move a disk, I just mount the new one as /myth_storage/e copy the data over then change the mount point
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[04:02:09] jab416171: What is mythpreviewgen?
[04:02:19] jab416171: And why are there 4 of them running
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[04:28:23] Hydroponx: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Mythpreviewgen
[04:28:34] Hydroponx: basically, generates previews
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[09:05:35] gigicarlo: hi all
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[09:16:08] gigicarlo: hi all
[09:16:35] gigicarlo: is anybody here to help with first-time OS X setup ??
[09:16:42] Roklobsta: not I
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[16:12:09] jluttine: i can't make mythweb working.. the web page is like this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=y8RZtafF
[16:12:36] jluttine: html source stops after "recommend_enabled ="
[16:12:52] jluttine: using arch & nginx & ssl
[16:12:57] jluttine: any ideas?
[16:17:14] jluttine: i'm upgrading from older versions of mythtv and mythweb
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[16:18:58] jluttine: happens without ssl too
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[17:01:40] jluttine: and can't see any errors in nginx and php-fpm logs
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[18:20:32] jab416171: Do I need to activate mythtv updates repository?
[18:21:08] Kwisher: which distro?
[18:22:16] jab416171: Mythbuntu
[18:22:21] jab416171: I'm on v0.27
[18:24:19] Kwisher: i use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ubuntu/0.27
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[20:01:33] unforgiven512: jluttine: Hey, I'm not alone! I haven't used myth for a while, and was just working on bringing everything up to date last night, and ran into this too — ArchLinux
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[20:05:53] unforgiven512: jluttine: ArchLinux with "standard" configuration as per Wiki (apache + noSSL)
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[20:10:48] unforgiven512: jluttine: I just figured out the issue on a whim, and it's absolutely stupid: in /etc/php/php.ini, you must use mysql.so, not mysqli.so, despite the fact that mysql.so is deprecated.
[20:11:46] todd__: i recently installed mythbuntu on an AMD64 system and have worked through the initial configuration and hardware recognition challenges. i can watch livetv, the backend records programs, but the frontend will not display recorded programs in the watchrecordings interface. the filters show recorded programs and the programs are in the recordings directories, and i can watch the programs leveraging vlc. the frontend log contains the following errors and
[20:11:46] todd__: i have been unable to resolve them. any thoughts on what to try next? Jan 4 11:58:27 RedTiger mythfrontend.real: mythfrontend[2059]: E ProgramInfoLoader remoteutil.cpp:184 (RemoteGetRecordingList) RemoteGetRecordingList() list size appears to be incorrect.
[20:11:46] todd__: Jan 4 11:58:28 RedTiger mythfrontend.real: mythfrontend[2059]: W CoreContext playbackbox.cpp:1797 (UpdateUILists) PlaybackBox: SortedList is Empty
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[21:23:06] Cubber: Is there a guide to setting up recording profiles for standard deffinition livetv? Just wondering what the best audio and video settings would be
[21:24:34] Cubber: Would be for an MPEG-2 hardware encoder
[21:29:42] [R]: if its a hardware encoder, than you shouldn't be reencoding it...
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[21:46:49] Cubber: its an HVR1600 using svidio input
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[22:16:32] gbutters: I am having a problem video artwork not getting added to the database
[22:16:40] gbutters: MythTV Version : v0.27.4-27-g40506c2
[22:16:40] gbutters: MythTV Branch : fixes/0.27
[22:16:40] gbutters: Network Protocol : 77
[22:16:40] gbutters: Library API : 0.27.20141016–1
[22:16:40] gbutters: QT Version : 4.8.1
[22:17:26] gbutters: It is downloaded but there is no filenames in the database
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