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[00:57:53] goibhniu1: Hi, I've used mythlink to create a directory tree for my recordings, it looks fine on the file system, but in MythWeb or when browsing videos on the frontend the titles are displayed as a datestamp rather than the actual filename (which includes the correct title) .. any idea where I'm going wrong?
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[00:58:52] goibhniu: e.g. it shows "20140929–2028" although the symlink is "Panorama – 2014-09–29, 8–28 PM – Born Asleep- Panorama.mpg" and that points to "/myth/recordings/59538_20140929192800.mpg"
[00:59:21] ** goibhniu has run `mythutil --scanvideos` **
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[01:03:35] pase_: hi
[01:06:10] ** cesman wonders what goibhniu means by "frontend"... **
[01:06:40] cesman: goibhniu: when people refer to "frontend" and mythtv, they generally mean mythfrontend
[01:06:58] goibhniu: yeah, that's what I mean .. browsing the videos there
[01:07:10] cesman: which has me thinking, why you'd need mythlink as the frontend has no issues streaming directly from the backend
[01:07:29] Korny1: I only use mythlink for using emit to my android phone lol :)
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[01:07:45] goibhniu: well, I'd like to be able to browse by category e.g. to watch films
[01:08:17] goibhniu: maybe there's an easier way?
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[01:08:39] cesman: the use of mythlink doesn't make sense with a proper mythfrontend
[01:09:04] goibhniu: at the moment my only option is to scroll through a massive list of recordings
[01:09:09] goibhniu: AFAICT
[01:09:10] cesman: mythlink makes it easy to use/view the files on something other than a proper mythfrontend
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[01:09:47] fmcd: is there any docs on how to pinpoint causes of jerky live tv playback
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[01:10:02] goibhniu: how can I see what movies I have, rather than TV shows?
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[01:10:24] cesman: from the frontend, you can watch recordings, it has all the programs sorted by the title of show
[01:10:36] cesman: movies you recorded?
[01:10:52] goibhniu: yeah, exactly ... how can I find movies, rather than tv shows?
[01:11:16] cesman: when you go into watch recordings, it doesn't seperate the two
[01:11:18] goibhniu: mythlink can make a directory structure e.g. drama/ films/
[01:11:32] goibhniu: which looks like a nice way to browse the collection
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[01:13:06] goibhniu: I'd love if there was a simpler way though
[01:13:10] cesman: mythlink is meant to be used at the filesystem level, it makes it easy to find what file (recorded program) matches up with the program for external use
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[01:14:55] cesman: If you intend to keep the files of the movies you record, I'd suggest you first transcode to remove commercials then run a job to make the recording MP4 (or something) part of the job would be to place that file where MythTV expects to find videos
[01:15:09] goibhniu: so there isn't really a way to list the movies I have recorded?
[01:15:11] Korny1: goibhniu: you can sort movies by type as well
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[01:15:14] cesman: when you want to watch them at a later time, go to Watch Videos instead of Recordings
[01:15:32] Korny1: there are filters
[01:15:43] cesman: right but not if those movies are in recordings
[01:15:57] cesman: well, at least the last time I checked
[01:16:04] jm|laptop: goibhniu: isn't mythlink usually for use in things /non/-mythtv
[01:16:23] cesman: right
[01:16:29] goibhniu: hmm .. filters
[01:16:32] jm|laptop: in mythweb you can just use "Recorded Programmes" ?
[01:17:02] goibhniu: well yes, but I often just want to watch a movie ... and I don't know what movies I have recorded
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[01:17:16] jm|laptop: and how does using mythlink help you there?
[01:17:34] goibhniu: it lets you create a directory structure by category, which is really nice
[01:17:42] jm|laptop: oh right
[01:17:50] goibhniu: it's exactly what I want ... except for the problem with the title
[01:18:24] ** cesman wonders if goibhniu has it set to output where MythTV expect "Videos".... **
[01:18:31] cesman: if you do, that should work
[01:18:32] jm|laptop: goibhniu: if you use mythfrontend for "all programmes" then menu > change group filter > films ?
[01:18:39] cesman: again, you'll need to go to Watch Videos
[01:18:44] goibhniu: cesman: yes exactly, sorry if I didn't explain that clearly
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[01:19:03] cesman: well, I need head out to dinner....
[01:19:07] goibhniu: jm|laptop: yes, but I still don't see the titles
[01:19:09] cesman: goibhniu: good luck
[01:19:11] goibhniu: thanks cesman, enjoy!
[01:19:23] cesman: goibhniu: did you 'Scan for changes'?
[01:19:26] cesman: goibhniu: thanks
[01:19:27] goibhniu: yep
[01:20:16] cesman: goibhniu: I'd 1)run mythlink with the approppriate flags
[01:20:26] cesman: 2) check the dir it outputs to
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[01:20:38] cesman: 3)ensure I have mythtv configured to use that dir
[01:20:45] cesman: 4) change for changes
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[01:21:12] cesman: if that fails, look at the mythbackend (I think it should be the backend) log
[01:21:19] cesman: again, good luck
[01:21:38] goibhniu: that's exactly what I've done, it all looks good on the filesystem ... cool, I'll check the backend log .. o/
[01:22:17] jm|laptop: goibhniu: in mythweb have you tried Searches > Films ?
[01:22:37] jm|laptop: that certainly lists all the films I have recorded
[01:22:53] jm|laptop: oh wait
[01:22:55] fmcd: hi guys.. i have a separate backend/frontend arrangement. hdhomerun plus tuner.. network thruput is 450mbit/sec,disk copy speed on backend is 40MB/sec. live tv on frontend is experiencing jerky playback
[01:22:56] jm|laptop: no it doesn't
[01:23:00] jm|laptop: apologies.
[01:23:09] nichos: Hi all – is there a way to stream audio from my laptop (via VLC, etc) to mythtv?
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[01:24:07] Korny1: fmcd: video profiles setup correctly?
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[01:24:18] fmcd: i'm just using Normal on the frontend profile
[01:24:29] Korny1: what type of machine?
[01:24:59] goibhniu: jm|laptop: not to worry, I'll sleep on it and try another day ... I guess my database is somehow messed up :/
[01:25:00] fmcd: three different linux boxes. pentium g3220, celeron NUC, core i7
[01:25:16] goibhniu: thanks!
[01:25:38] Korny1: try opengl?
[01:25:50] fmcd: hmm
[01:26:04] Korny1: I'm trying to remember what I used on my intel box
[01:26:10] Korny1: I know it was not the normal setting
[01:26:10] fmcd: i think that caused a hang on one of them
[01:26:15] fmcd: trying on this one
[01:26:39] fmcd: this one is actually a VM with the i7 integrated HD4600 using pci passthru
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[01:27:35] fmcd: have a feeling this is more of a backend issue cos video library stuff generally plays ok
[01:28:46] fmcd: audio is interrupted too
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[01:29:44] Korny1: all the backend does is serve the files, no proccessing is done there except for commerical flagging and metadata look ups, neither of which are that intensive
[01:30:04] Korny1: try accessing the network tuner from vlc?
[01:30:12] Korny1: see if you have teh same issues
[01:30:18] fmcd: yeah was just thinking that
[01:31:12] fmcd: getting this sometimes RingBuf(/mnt/myth/1021_20141030012804.mpg): Taking too long to be allowed to read..
[01:31:24] fmcd: but not correlated with the playback issue
[01:32:25] Korny1: are you running the backend on a virtual machine?
[01:33:36] fmcd: no
[01:35:15] fmcd: hmm i think this is a local issue on this frontend
[01:35:39] fmcd: other processes using too much cpu
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[01:37:49] fmcd: if i skip back a few seconds on the live tv and replay the jitter doesnt happen the second time
[01:37:56] fmcd: so the recorded stream i guess is good
[01:45:33] jm|laptop: nichos: do you have MythMusic installed?
[01:45:40] nichos: Yes
[01:45:57] jm|laptop: what distro are you using for myth?
[01:46:15] nichos: jm|laptop: but I want to play from my desktop TO my mythbox (i think appleplay is the apple way of doing it)
[01:46:17] nichos: mythbuntu
[01:46:26] jm|laptop: and on your laptop?
[01:47:23] nichos: winders
[01:47:38] jm|laptop: nichos: I don't use mythmusic but it appears to support icecast streams
[01:47:49] jm|laptop: hmm "Note: This feature is only available in the 0.27-pre development version of MythTV"
[01:48:12] nichos: interesting idea, so run an icecast server on the laptop and "point" to the stream on myth
[01:48:17] jm|laptop: so if you configure an iceca ...
[01:48:18] jm|laptop: yes :)
[01:48:32] nichos: Good idea, I didn't think of that
[01:48:46] nichos: thanks jm|laptop sound like a simple enough solution
[01:48:53] jm|laptop: I hope it is :)
[01:49:02] jm|laptop: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythMusic_Radio_Streaming
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[01:53:12] nichos: nifty, VLC looks to support icecast
[01:53:28] jm|laptop: nichos: in that it can stream it?
[01:54:57] nichos: jm|laptop: yeah, looks like it: preferences->stream output->access output-->shoutcast
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[02:38:14] jm|laptop: "Researchers in the US and Netherlands have managed to transmit data at 255Tbps across a single strand of fiber cable over a kilometer (0.6 miles), about 2,500 times faster than any commercial fiber."
[02:38:15] jm|laptop: hell
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[15:07:05] lomion0815: When I have parallel recordings on two "virtual tuners" on one physical tuner (multirec) the Active EIT Scan starts as soon as the first tuner is free. Of course I get a "Requested channel 'xyz' is not available because the tuner is currently in use on another transport." error log. Is this a bug? ActiveScan never starts again afterwards unless I restart the backend ...
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[18:49:48] fred1986: hi all
[18:50:02] fred1986: anyone here that can help with a tevii s480 dvbs card ?
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[18:55:34] dekarl-work: lomion0815: I vote yes, its a bug. which version is that?
[18:56:09] dekarl-work: its a bug that it tries and its a bug that it doesn't try again once it failed. IIRC we have the latter in the bug tracker
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[19:12:12] fred1986: anyone ?
[19:15:40] dekarl-work: fred1986: maybe someone does know the answer, but they wouldn't know until they know the actual question
[19:17:26] fred1986: problem is that i used the howto on linuxtv but my card still isn't recognized as a dvb card
[19:19:06] fred1986: fred1986> anyone here that can help with a tevii s480 dvbs card ?
[19:19:32] dekarl-work: that is strange, as http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TeVii_S480 says "From kernel 2.6.39 and above native support will be provided for the S480 Card.", so you should not have to follow long howtos
[19:20:09] fred1986: in windows 7 it works
[19:21:43] fred1986: if i do lsusb: Bus 004 Device 002: ID 9022:d484 TeVii Technology Ltd
[19:23:29] lomion0815: lates 0.27-fixes
[19:23:31] dekarl-work: does dmesg show the card being attached to the dvb driver?
[19:23:56] fred1986: no
[19:24:06] fred1986: dmesg |grep dvb doesn't show anything
[19:25:04] fred1986: dmesg |grep Tevii : 2.189142] usb 4–1: Manufacturer: Tevii
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[19:25:38] dekarl-work: fred1986: google hints that this PCI ID belongs to "the new S480" and the new model "S482", so its possible that the support has not made it into the mainline kernel yet
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[19:26:39] dekarl-work: s/PCI ID/USB ID/
[19:26:45] fred1986: the box says s482
[19:27:26] fred1986: so there is no support for it ?
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[19:28:07] dekarl-work: http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/TeVii_S482 says "05.10.2014 just work with liplianin drivers, not ported to Linux kernel"
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[19:33:43] dekarl-work: fred1986: what OS is that? if its ubuntu maybe the mythbuntu users know if there is a package of s2-liplianin to install
[19:34:23] fred1986: latest mythbuntu
[19:35:31] dekarl-work: superm1: tgm4883 -^ any idea how to easily install the s2-liplianin dkms?
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[19:58:33] fred1986: no answer :(
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[21:13:14] dym: dekarl1: I grabbed myself one of these: http://www.supermicro.com/Aplus/motherboard/O . . . /H8SSL-i.cfm
[21:14:00] dym: With an Opteron
[21:14:05] dym: and 4GB Ram
[21:14:10] dym: should do the work for now, right?
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[21:52:03] CCFL_Man: i wonder hopw well mythtv would work on freebsd
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[22:03:35] pase_: c
[22:04:44] pase_: I have some channels locking up my frontends when they tune to them, they end up stuck on there until I remove the card and reset everything.
[22:04:50] pase_: anyone have this happen?
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[22:26:59] AnimalFarmPig: can anyone recommend a good walkthrough for getting a myth backend set up with a hdhomerun prime without subscribing to any channel listing services? I tried the walkthrough on the wiki, but not having much success. Also, the mythtv-setup gui is annoying. I don't mind editing config files.
[22:27:11] AnimalFarmPig: I'd prefer Debian, but I can do any distro
[22:29:49] CCFL_Man: the capture cards i like do work on freebsd
[22:29:58] CCFL_Man: i think i'm making the switch
[22:30:24] CCFL_Man: i respect linux for what it is, but i love freebsd
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[23:23:30] dekarl: dym: I have no idea wrt hardware from the last 5 years. But yes, 4GB are fine for a backend (aka worksforme, but no ZFS or other memory hungry stuff). And I'm surprised that there are Opteron boards that are limited to 4GB
[23:24:21] dekarl: CCFL_Man: i hear there are devs that run on FreeBSD with network attached tuners
[23:28:42] dekarl: dym, are you sure that is the right link? that board only supports 10 year old CPUs according to wikipedia (looking up what "one opteron 100 series cpu" means at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_AMD_Opte . . . .28130_nm.29 )
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