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[03:45:19] Roklobsta: well weird.
[03:45:54] Roklobsta: looking through my db tables, dtv_multiplex networkid is NULL for all the channels but the one that works.
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[03:46:20] Roklobsta: this is after a Full Scan with setup.
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[05:59:47] CCFL_Man: hdmi audio is a pain to get working
[06:04:04] Roklobsta: haha by my reckoning you'll have mythtv mostly working in about 3 years time
[06:04:23] Roklobsta: i just realised today i have been using it for 6 years and the damned thing has been a constant battle.
[06:05:41] CCFL_Man: it looks like the issue is the devices, drivers, mysql, device config, lirc, etc that is hard to get working
[06:06:29] CCFL_Man: so far, mplayer works on deutsche welle tv, heh
[06:06:57] CCFL_Man: hdmi audio might need some extra coaxing
[06:08:44] Roklobsta: in the audio setup scan the audio then test all the combinations
[06:09:03] Roklobsta: i am using nvidia, it changes each time you change kernel version
[06:17:01] CCFL_Man: there is no clear documentation on my motherboard
[06:17:41] CCFL_Man: it claims it supports 5.1 audio, yet the jacks are the standard blue, green, and white
[06:17:54] Roklobsta: i am using an nvidia 210 based video card and the audio comes through it.
[06:18:24] CCFL_Man: and it does not detect an hdmi audio device in lspci -k, so i'm guessing this board doesn't support it
[06:18:51] Roklobsta: you might have to run alsamixed and turn all the volumes up and turn on the SPDIF's
[06:19:04] Roklobsta: alsamixer
[06:19:10] Roklobsta: run alsamixer in a shell
[06:20:12] CCFL_Man: bios sayd HDMI audio
[06:20:33] CCFL_Man: let me try that
[06:23:17] Roklobsta: F6 in alsamixer will give you a list of cards
[06:23:56] Roklobsta: you shoudl get default which is analog audio then HDMI cards
[06:25:17] CCFL_Man: i just get the analog card
[06:25:30] CCFL_Man: so i might need the driver
[06:26:01] CCFL_Man: two capture and one playback
[06:26:03] Roklobsta: so it begins...
[06:26:26] CCFL_Man: from the googling i've done so far, it's a bich
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[07:09:18] Roklobsta: just get a cheap nvidia card, 210 or 610. hdmi on them works i know
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[08:41:50] dekarl: Roklobsta: (original_)network_id NULL in dtv_multiplex is a hint that the channel scan didn't properly work.
[08:42:48] dekarl: #10217
[08:42:48] ** MythLogBot http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10217 **
[08:44:16] Roklobsta: yeah no warnings though. it says after a scan it finds the channels and seems ok.
[08:45:39] Roklobsta: but then doesn't tune.
[08:45:51] Roklobsta: no doesn't lock
[08:45:54] dekarl: does it list them as DVB channels?
[08:46:14] dekarl: you could try what happens if you manually enter the values
[08:50:10] Roklobsta: yeah it does list the channels
[08:50:56] Roklobsta: on 2 tuners w_scan doesn't give the network id either.
[08:50:57] Roklobsta: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10217
[08:50:59] Roklobsta: derr
[08:51:01] Roklobsta: ABC News 24;ABC:683500:B7:T:27500:516+2308=2:0;654:580:0:688:0:0:0
[08:51:21] Roklobsta: see the last has 3 zeroes where the first and 2nd zero should have numbers
[08:52:12] Roklobsta: i would manually enter them but i need to find out what they are. w_Scan is not helping me now
[08:53:27] Roklobsta: so w_scan and mythbe don't seem to catch the transport id or network id but they can list the channel. this happens with my afatech and rtl2382u tuners.
[08:53:36] Roklobsta: kernel 3.16
[08:54:57] Roklobsta: and mplayer has no trouble locking and playing with channel.conf entries like this:
[08:54:59] Roklobsta: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10217
[08:55:00] Roklobsta: shit
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[08:55:07] Roklobsta: ABC News 24(ABC):683500000:INVERSION_AUTO:BANDWIDTH_7_MHZ:FEC_AUTO:FEC_AUTO:QAM_AUTO:TRAN SMISSION_MODE_AUTO:GUARD_INTERVAL_AUTO:HIERARCHY_NONE:516:654:688
[08:56:21] Roklobsta: there is no network or transport id in that xine formatted channels.conf
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[09:03:17] Roklobsta: ticket 10217 seems to be just the sort of trouble i am having.
[09:04:03] CCFL_Man: 7 MHz?
[09:04:22] Roklobsta: can i clear the dtv_multiplex table? it seems to be full of scans from the last 6 years! 40 scans all up.
[09:04:26] Roklobsta: yes 7
[09:04:31] Roklobsta: no h.264 yet
[09:04:59] CCFL_Man: in the US, broadcast TV is still a 6MHz wide channel
[09:05:24] Roklobsta: well DVB supports up to 8. dunno what loser need 8.
[09:05:25] CCFL_Man: 256QAM could be 8MHz and 64QAM id 6MHz
[09:05:40] CCFL_Man: DVB-T?
[09:07:15] Roklobsta: yes
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[09:20:12] Roklobsta: i am confused. why is the netid (and BTW what is orig_netid and why is it different on some channels for netid) in channelscan_channel but not in dtv_multiplex?
[09:26:42] Roklobsta: ok good news, after i just inserted the network id it's seems to be making a recording with >0 bytes.
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[09:33:50] CCFL_Man: i doubt i'll ever see DVB-T in my life
[09:33:58] CCFL_Man: i have3 used DVB-S
[09:34:35] Roklobsta: go to a country with 240VAC and 50Hz and you will find DVB-T
[09:34:45] CCFL_Man: i having a hell of a time finding a cheap, pci interface atsc tuner card with low profile bracket
[09:35:06] CCFL_Man: the voltage is too high for me
[09:36:01] Roklobsta: well, i thought PCI was dying but there are plenty of new Inetl mobos with 2 PCI slots on them.
[09:37:13] CCFL_Man: i already picked the motherboard
[09:37:21] CCFL_Man: one pci e slot
[09:37:53] CCFL_Man: one pci e 16x for the video card with s-video out, and two regular pci
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[09:44:48] CCFL_Man: maybe i'll have to just pay the $60
[09:45:13] CCFL_Man: it comes with the low profile backet
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[10:33:40] Roklobsta: get a USB unit
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[13:59:52] |PSU|: hi guys...i'm running 0.27.4 and manually ran mythfilldatabase to see if i'm going to have any issues with the upcoming DataDirect replacement. I have guide data thru 08 Nov and it appears to run successfully but data on 07–08 Nov is mostly blank ("NO DATA")...any thoughts?
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[15:06:57] NoFinessin: running 0.27.4 and the uPNP server is no longer showing up on my network, anybody experienced that?
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[15:44:24] bill6502: NoFinessin: anything in the backend logs. e.g. a line containing: SSDP Request from WAN IP...
[15:51:42] NoFinessin: yes
[15:52:24] NoFinessin: Oct 26 08:38:53 htpc3 mythbackend: mythbackend[2219]: C SSDP ssdp.cpp:339 (ProcessData) SSDP Request from WAN IP address (0.0.0.0). Possible SSDP Reflection attempt. Ignoring as security risk.
[15:53:23] clever_: is the ip actualy showing up as 0.0.0.0?
[15:54:55] NoFinessin: ya
[15:55:06] clever_: weird, cant think of anything else then
[15:56:39] NoFinessin: i looked at the code change between 0.27.1 and 0.27.4 and see changes but don't know how they apply to my situation
[16:04:37] bill6502: there was just a commit that only allows Private Network addresses.
[16:07:01] bill6502: http://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/52cb0b5
[16:12:39] bill6502: (that was in master)
[16:17:03] bill6502: here we go (for 0.27): https://code.mythtv.org/trac/changeset/b305eb5 . now why 0.0.0.0 is being used (or at least being printed), I don't know.
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[16:31:36] CCFL_Man: mythtv uses SSDP?
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[16:47:51] bill6502: CCFL_Man: yes, for UPnP, unfortunately, I don't use it, so that's about all I know
[16:48:26] CCFL_Man: bill6502: i wonder if it can be turned off
[16:49:12] bill6502: mythbackend --help noupnp
[16:49:19] CCFL_Man: ahh
[16:49:53] bill6502: just curious, why would you want to turn it off?
[16:51:09] CCFL_Man: i don't like the extra broadcast traffic
[16:52:40] CCFL_Man: for a system with both the front end and back end, it won't be needed
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[17:01:38] CCFL_Man: bill6502: is it for discovery of frontends and back ends?
[17:07:09] bill6502: out of my league now, but: mythfrontend --help disable-autodiscovery
[17:08:21] CCFL_Man: ahh, thanks
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[18:02:21] CCFL_Man: i wonder if i can configure X so that it uses the display adapter on my motherboard and the video card and outputting the same display to both
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[18:19:44] bill6502: CCFL_Man: fyi clients (like MythTV Android Fromtend) won't be able to do autodiscovery if --noupnp is used. [just means you have to enter IP addresses by hand]
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[20:32:58] Roklobsta: dekarl: I have updated https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/10217 with some information.
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[22:07:28] Just_tom: hello all
[22:07:36] Just_tom: having trouble with parental controls
[22:08:13] Just_tom: I set a video to level 4, go to the main menu and it no longer appears in my list – as expected as I am at level 1
[22:08:38] Just_tom: then if I go back to the main menu and back into videos it is there again
[22:08:53] Just_tom: if I edit the details the parental level has been reset to 1
[22:09:27] Just_tom: I've tried this over and over, I can't seem to get the parental level to stay with tthe video
[22:09:38] Just_tom: Anyone ever see this?
[22:12:12] Just_tom: Actually, this seems to be the case with any change I made to the meta data. If I change a title or anything else, if I go to the main menu and back to videos, the changes are gone.
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[23:05:40] bill6502: Just_tom: if it's all metadata, I'd look in the logs (backend and frontend) perhaps for DB failures, e.g a crashed table. it works OK for me on 0.28-pre.
[23:06:17] Just_tom: Yeah, check FE and VE logs and don't see anything
[23:06:34] Just_tom: Don't see anything in my mysql log either
[23:06:49] Just_tom: I'm using the latest 0.27
[23:07:54] Just_tom: I just tried downloading meta data too (description & images etc) and the same thing happens
[23:09:26] Just_tom: Another thing – it appears to be a metadata read problem
[23:09:57] Just_tom: I have a laptop with 0.27 – pre 0.27.4 and it doesn't have the problem
[23:10:25] Just_tom: Example: on my problem box I can add a subtitle to a video, go to the main menu and back and ti is gone
[23:10:44] Just_tom: If I look at the same video on the laptop, the subtitle is still there
[23:11:11] Just_tom: so it appears that the metadata is getting saved to the DB, but not being read in the latest 0.27
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[23:51:05] CCFL_Man: for ratpoison to work, i need a desktop manager as well?

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