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| [02:13:46] | squish102: | I have a new frontend only machine and each time it boots it goes into the setup. I have to press enter 3 times and then it starts. I have a .mythtv/config.xml that is correct |
| [02:17:20] | Roklobsta: | mythbuntu? |
| [02:17:53] | Roklobsta: | could the problem be it's not talking to the database? is user/pass set correct after the 1st setup? |
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| [02:19:42] | squish102: | it is mythbuntu, and once i'm in setup, I just go next next finish and then mythfrontend starts |
| [02:20:35] | squish102: | it seems to behave the same as if it cannot connect to the backend |
| [02:22:14] | squish102: | hmmmm, it is on a solid state drive. I wonder if it is not getting connected to the network quick enough before myth tries to start |
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| [04:23:57] | tgm4883: | squish102: that sounds reasonable |
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| [05:27:51] | Roklobsta: | ok, 0.28 has problems with tuning. |
| [05:27:52] | Roklobsta: | TVRecEvent tv_rec.cpp:4047 (TuningSignalCheck) TVRec[1]: TuningSignalCheck: taking more than 20000 ms to get a lock. marking this recording as 'Failing'. |
| [05:29:09] | Roklobsta: | I have wiped all the transports and channels, did a Full Scan on DVB, picked up all the transports and channels, set up the Inputs etc. This has been going on for a few weeks. Same story with other tuners. |
| [05:29:38] | Roklobsta: | so the same tuner that scanned transports etc now doesn't get a lock when recording. |
| [05:29:56] | Roklobsta: | same card, no problems like this in 0.27.3 |
| [05:31:18] | Roklobsta: | the only things that have changed are mythbunto 12.04 with 3.12 kernel to mythbuntu 14.04 with 3.13 kernel and 0.27.3 to 0.28 |
| [05:32:01] | Roklobsta: | no i2c errors on the tuner so AFAIK it's behaving. |
| [05:32:39] | Roklobsta: | i thought there might be some wires crossed (so to speak) in the DB so wiped all transports and started again |
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| [08:16:03] | Roklobsta: | ok I go to livetv and only one channel locks. all the others are partial lock. |
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| [08:21:48] | Roklobsta: | well that's mental, tzap gives me FE_HAS_LOCK where mythtv won't. What's changed in 0.28 since 0.27? |
| [08:21:52] | Roklobsta: | for dvb tuning |
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| [09:34:39] | stuartm: | nothing |
| [09:36:29] | stuartm: | well accept for the addition of the concurrent_tunings_delay – https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/a8ca00d9 |
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| [09:40:50] | Roklobsta: | ok |
| [09:40:58] | Roklobsta: | i don't have that binary yet |
| [09:41:19] | Roklobsta: | oh yes i do |
| [09:41:20] | Roklobsta: | ok |
| [09:41:36] | Roklobsta: | well i am completely flummoxed. |
| [09:41:55] | Roklobsta: | can there be bad data in th db? |
| [09:41:58] | Roklobsta: | or a mix up? |
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| [10:16:09] | Roklobsta: | can too strong a signal mess up reception? |
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| [11:04:45] | Seeker`: | Roklobsta: I don't know if it will in practice, but imagine if you have signal oscillating between 90 and 100 (in a 0–100 range), and then someone boosts the power by 10. All of a sudden you're just receiving '100' over and over. |
| [11:05:21] | loganrun: | so I did dist upgrade on my ubuntu now mythtv is borked. mythtv-setup wants to upgrade the database from 1302 to 1307 but it is failing. is there any way to do this manually. |
| [11:06:30] | loganrun: | 1302 to 1317 rather |
| [11:09:12] | loganrun: | Query was: UPDATE program SET starttime = CONVERT_TZ(starttime, 'SYSTEM', 'Etc/UTC'), endtime = CONVERT_TZ(endtime, 'SYSTEM', 'Etc/UTC') ORDER BY -starttime |
| [11:09:22] | loganrun: | says driver was unable to execute query |
| [11:20:46] | Roklobsta: | eh best thing to do is fresh install |
| [11:21:00] | Roklobsta: | you did you mean 12 to 14? |
| [11:22:34] | loganrun: | I don't want to loose my video library |
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| [11:23:42] | loganrun: | I suspect it is something simple, but I don't know mysql well enough to figure out what is wrong |
| [11:25:07] | loganrun: | I have no idea what version of mythtv it has installed, it just tells me that about the database format or something |
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| [11:37:15] | loganrun: | it is trying the following command to back up the database which is also failing, does anyone know why?mysqldump --defaults-extra-file='/tmp/mythtv_db_backup_conf_soyVwG' --host='localhost' --port='3306' --user='mythtv' --add-drop-table --add-locks --allow-keywords --complete-insert --extended-insert --lock-tables --no-create-db --quick 'mythconverg' > '/mythtv/dbBackups/mythconverg-1302–20141023113444.sql' 2>/dev/null |
| [11:37:38] | loganrun: | I tried it from the shell and it just created an empty database |
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| [11:39:31] | loganrun: | it says Could not open required defaults file: /tmp/mythtv_db_backup_conf_soyVwG |
| [11:40:54] | loganrun: | ok says table program is crashed and should be repaired when dumping table |
| [11:41:54] | loganrun: | anybody know who to reapir a table? |
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| [11:46:43] | loganrun: | ok got the table repaired |
| [11:49:30] | loganrun: | for the people who program mythtv they should do a repair table for each table before trying to upgrade the database; |
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| [12:58:31] | loganrun: | looks like that was the problem, some of the tables needed to be repaired.. apparently they had duplicate keys or something |
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| [17:00:31] | loganrun: | does anyone have a clue how I scan for analog cable channels |
| [17:00:40] | loganrun: | I used my TV to do it and it worked fine |
| [17:01:24] | loganrun: | seems very cumbersome to use the mythtv-setup interface to do this |
| [17:01:43] | loganrun: | plus there are so many different frequency ranges to choose from |
| [17:02:22] | loganrun: | I would expect analog channels to normally be in a particular frequency band. I have time warner |
| [17:03:16] | stuartm: | three is too many? (usa-cable, usa-cable-hrc, usa-cable-irc)? |
| [17:03:39] | loganrun: | well there is QAM-64 QAM-256 and a couple other things as well |
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| [17:04:09] | loganrun: | that is like 9 or more combinations |
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| [17:04:52] | loganrun: | plus I don't understand at the end it says some of the channel names are in conflict and to rename them etc. what does that mean |
| [17:05:00] | loganrun: | it seems like most of hte channels end up junk |
| [17:05:19] | loganrun: | how do I know if it has found an analog or a digital channel |
| [17:05:39] | loganrun: | is there a better app to look for channels with? |
| [17:07:38] | loganrun: | so for example I get QAM-256 IRC 98 — Timed out, 32 possible channels, or IRC 99 — Found 4 probable channels |
| [17:07:40] | loganrun: | what the heck |
| [17:08:31] | loganrun: | there must be some sane approach to this |
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| [17:16:31] | loganrun: | then if I try to go through and watch the channel every so often I come to a channel that locks up the mythtvfrontend and have to kill and restart it. plus the channel numbers do not display correctly |
| [17:16:40] | loganrun: | hmm |
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| [17:25:23] | loganrun: | does anyone know the best way to set up channels on mythtv |
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| [17:26:12] | loganrun: | I have tried some scans and it comes up with tons of "channels" but there does not appear to be anyway to figure out what they are. the channels numbers do not display properly and some of the channels lock up the front end |
| [17:30:54] | loganrun: | now every time I go to watch tv it seems to remember the channel it locked up on and starts on that channel. what do I do, this is crazy |
| [17:34:39] | stuartm: | those are digital cable options |
| [17:35:06] | stuartm: | shouldn't even be offered for an analogue tuner |
| [17:35:54] | stuartm: | loganrun: in the US the 'recommend' way is to let your Schedules Direct lineup populate the analogue channels |
| [17:36:34] | loganrun: | how do I do that? |
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| [17:38:52] | loganrun: | if I try fetch channels from listings source I don't think it does anything |
| [17:39:04] | loganrun: | if I try fetch channels from listings source I don't think it does anything |
| [17:42:47] | loganrun: | hmm sounds like you need to scan for channels first then select fech channels from listings source. is that correct? |
| [17:43:19] | loganrun: | doesn't seem like it should work. if it knew the frequencies to begin with there would be no need to scan at all it seems like |
| [17:45:55] | loganrun: | stuartm, are you still there? |
| [17:54:30] | loganrun: | seems like all the frequency ranges come up with pretty much the same channels |
| [17:54:39] | loganrun: | this does not make much sense to me |
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| [18:09:58] | loganrun: | ok I think I got the analog channels populated, however, I am having problems finding the analog tuner for my video card. |
| [18:10:18] | loganrun: | I picked /dev/video0 |
| [18:10:24] | loganrun: | but no idea if that is correct |
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| [18:23:23] | loganrun: | so I tested the analog tuner with mplayer -tv driver=v4l2:device=/dev/video0:norm=NTSC:chanlist=us-bcast:channel=10:alsa=1:ade vice=hw.1:audiorate=48000:immediatemode=0:amode=1 tv:// |
| [18:24:19] | loganrun: | and that seems to work, I did the fetch channels and that seemed to work more or less. but mythtv just seems to hand and crash when I try to go to the watch tv option |
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| [18:26:53] | loganrun: | I wonder if mythtv is using the wrong driver or something |
| [18:27:07] | loganrun: | looks like it is supposed to use v4l2 driver, how can I check this |
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| [18:58:44] | loganrun: | o.k. so basically I chose the analog recorder which seemed to give v4l which is apparently want I want. however, scanning for channels does not work. it just says locked and claims it can't find any. that is clearly broken in mythtv. I then use the fetch channels from provider, which fills in a bunch of stuff. I then deleted the bogus channel number. however, I end up only being able to watch channel 2. trying it with mplaye |
| [18:58:44] | loganrun: | r seems to work fine for different channels, so this seems to be a bug with mythtv. is there any way to fix it |
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| [19:29:12] | loganrun: | seems like no one is alive on this channel |
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| [22:39:57] | MTughan: | What CPU architectures does MythTV support? Would it be possible to run the backend on a Synology NAS with a Freescale PowerPC CPU? |
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| [23:42:06] | MTughan: | Sorry, I was disconnected. Did anyone answer my question about CPU architectures? |
| [23:43:16] | Hydr0p0nX: | https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hardware_Requirements |
| [23:43:31] | Hydr0p0nX: | that's the best I can say definitively |
| [23:43:52] | MTughan: | Yeah, I've seen that already. Doesn't mention anything other than ARM should be avoided, and nothing about PPC. |
| [23:43:57] | MTughan: | Thanks though. |
| [23:46:59] | Hydr0p0nX: | I do see a ticket that was supposed to be opened around compiling for OS X on PPC in the email archive |
| [23:48:15] | Hydr0p0nX: | and a note in the 0.27 howto saying it's known to work on both the PPC and Intel OS X installs |
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| [23:49:00] | MTughan: | I guess I'd have to see if I can compile it for Synology and give it a try. |
| [23:49:16] | bill6502: | is it one of these: https://www.synology.com/en-us/support/nas_selector |
| [23:49:31] | MTughan: | Yes, a DS413. |
| [23:49:44] | MTughan: | /proc/cpuinfo says it's a e500v2. |
| [23:50:48] | bill6502: | you might find this handy: http://smolt.mythtv.org/static/stats/stats.html and then look under the CPU and RAM tabs |
| [23:53:37] | Hydr0p0nX: | where do those numbers come from ? |
| [23:54:11] | bill6502: | users of version 0.25 and above that opt in to uploading their info |
| [23:54:19] | Hydr0p0nX: | oh, nice |
| [23:54:45] | MTughan: | So I see x86 and ARM there, but no PowerPC. If it's opt-in though, that doesn't necessarily mean that PPC isn't supported. |
| [23:55:08] | MTughan: | But it's probably not worth it to bother trying to run it on the NAS itself. |
| [23:58:09] | Hydr0p0nX: | I see a ticket from 9/9/13 fixing a compile failure on ppc |
| [23:58:26] | Hydr0p0nX: | it was fixed, that's the last thing I see that's specific to that chip |
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