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[01:05:00] phathak: hello, how does it work in here?
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[01:16:40] bill6502: phathak: just ask a question and if someone knows, they'll answer. or see: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/IRC#Channel_FAQ_.2F_Rules for a better answer
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[01:27:52] tgm4883: what does groupcenter do in a buttonlist? Is there an example of it anywhere?
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[05:22:19] dekarl: haha, here's another gem for the series database modelling... Fraggle Rock with "The German wraparounds copied the North American Doc's set and script word-for-word (except in German), whereas the UK and French co-productions were generally different. 85 of the 96 episodes were co-produced. "
[05:22:19] dekarl: looks like there are at least four different sets of the same (minus 11 for german) episodes
[05:22:31] dekarl: from http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Die_Fraggles
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[05:51:51] Roklobsta: inetresting, the only thing i can see that might start some kind of cpu spinning is:
[05:51:51] Roklobsta: 2014-10–14 14:32:38.495881 I Frontend idle timeout is disabled
[05:51:51] Roklobsta: 2014-10–14 15:23:54.371904 E ThemeInfo: The theme (myth://Temp@Myth/remotethemes/trunk/TransBlue) is missing a themeinfo.xml file
[05:52:19] Roklobsta: why does that Themeinfo message come out 50 mins after the previous message?
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[06:23:14] dekarl: hmm, if transblue is missing the themeinfo.xml file, then what is this? http://themes.mythtv.org/themes/repository/tr . . . hemeinfo.xml
[06:27:36] Roklobsta: weird, but why does it wait for 50mins to check? the MFE was idle all that time
[06:28:58] dekarl: also quite a bunch of validation errors when switching to that theme...
[06:29:26] dekarl: Roklobsta: did you do anything around the end of the 50 minute span?
[06:31:00] dekarl: and fonts are broken :(
[06:33:50] Roklobsta: no, i loaded MFE and left it alone.
[06:34:07] Roklobsta: hence my question about whats going on at 50min
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[07:05:15] Roklobsta: interesting, i have one tuner recording three programs off the same frequency right now and only 2/3 are working...
[07:10:18] dekarl: the 50 minutes could be some cache timeout x minutes after initial load which just happens to randomly happen after 50 minute idle time in this instance
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[11:47:04] AnthonyUK: Hi all, I recently upgraded from Ubutnu 12.04 to 14.04 and xbmc on windows from frodo to gotham but now the cmyth plugin doesnt work
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[12:35:24] stuartm: we don't maintain cmyth, it's a third party project
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[13:38:46] manithree: stuartm: I upgraded to last night's build and uPNP is working with my PS3 again! Thanks!
[13:39:24] stuartm: manithree: great news, thanks for letting me know
[13:40:16] stuartm: kurre2: have you managed to try latest master with your Samsung TVs yet?
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[14:21:01] AnthonyUK: bk, thanks Stuartm,
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[15:38:15] skd5aner: quick question...
[15:39:02] skd5aner: it looks like you can filter on many different criteria in mythvideo, but rating seems to be one of the few items you can't filter on. Is that correct?
[15:39:27] skd5aner: stuartm: are you trying to test upnp/dlna against samsung smart tvs?
[15:39:49] skd5aner: I've got a fairly recent Samsung 4k smart TV
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[15:45:54] stuartm: skd5aner: yeah I'm looking for feedback, mostly wanting to know about devices where it's not working at all
[15:48:31] skd5aner: The 0.27-fixes uPNP works mostly for me
[15:48:36] skd5aner: I've only briefly played with it
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[15:49:00] skd5aner: stuartm: I've not run master however
[15:54:58] stuartm: it's master I'm interested it, it's had substantial work done
[15:56:13] stuartm: ironically the more we comply with the upnp and dlna specs, the more problems that seems to cause clients which claim to be UPnP/DLNA compatible :)
[15:58:01] skd5aner: stuartm: yea, why does it seem like UPnP implementations are almost free-for-alls? Also, I've always wondered why they didn't take advantage of other functions, like the remote control capabilities, etc
[15:59:03] stuartm: there's so much cool stuff in the spec that is ignored, and so many proprietary extensions which duplicate standard features
[15:59:52] stuartm: Samsung have some of the latter, as do Microsoft – in fact they both duplicate the same feature in different ways which are incompatible with each other
[16:00:05] skd5aner: is the spec open?
[16:00:18] stuartm: both the UPnP and DLNA specs are completely open
[16:00:28] skd5aner: and, I've never really looked, but why/how is DLNA different from UPnP?
[16:01:08] skd5aner: is it just an extention, subset, evolution – or something entirely different that is just backwards compatibale with UPnP?
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[16:01:52] stuartm: DLNA is 75% rules which tighten or enforce the presence of certain UPnP features e.g. "You MUST include this"
[16:02:03] skd5aner: ah
[16:03:08] skd5aner: stuartm: how's the webfrontend stuff going?
[16:03:08] stuartm: the other 25% of DLNA are extensions which are compatible with UPnP and which add metadata to help clients (and servers) to determine stuff like whether they will be able to play particular files
[16:03:35] stuartm: UPnP just exposes mime-type, bitrate, resolution etc DLNA exposes the container and encoding options
[16:04:02] stuartm: skd5aner: slowly, I've been sidetracked by the UPnP work
[16:05:23] stuartm: and work on the underlying http server, stuff like adding SSL support
[16:05:26] skd5aner: stuartm: that's ok – all worthwhile ventures on your part (imho)
[16:09:13] skd5aner: does the tmdb grabber retrieve ratings?
[16:11:54] skd5aner: it looks like most of my movies in the video library have a rating, but looks like recent aditions are just populating with "NR"
[16:13:14] skd5aner: Ah, I see why
[16:14:06] skd5aner: would still be nice to filter on rating, perhaps I'll see if I can figure out how to add that
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[18:32:30] haux: Hi all. Anyone successfully configured Mythtv frontend to work with IR remote control  ? I am using Rosewill ir remote
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[20:02:48] stuartm: I think everyone?
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[20:09:15] Roklobsta: dekarl: I gave up in the end, 4GB is plenty for MFE/MBE.
[20:09:27] Roklobsta: i just had spare slots and dimms.
[20:10:27] Roklobsta: dekarl: i won't clog #mythtv. Yes, the PCI DVB card is some old Philips thing. I think driver dev stopped on it 5 years ago
[20:11:04] Roklobsta: anyway, i turned Hier. from Auto to None. I also noticed setting BW from Auto to 7MHz helps get lock too.
[20:13:44] Roklobsta: Oh great...
[20:13:48] Roklobsta: TVRecEvent tv_rec.cpp:4047 (TuningSignalCheck) TVRec[34]: TuningSignalCheck: taking more than 62500 ms to get a lock. marking this recording as 'Failing'.
[20:14:03] Roklobsta: I live 3km from the DVB TX and it won't fscking lock.
[20:15:05] dekarl: Roklobsta: otoh you only should need to manually set parameters of a single transport then the scanner can learn all parameters from the NIT
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