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| [01:53:50] | hipitihop: | I have finally allowed update manager to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 process went fine until reboot to complete. Now I am left at Mythbuntu splash/progress screen, not alternate tty sessions, and I can't ssh in either. Suggestions ? |
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| [08:08:36] | cerise8192: | Hi there, I'm using mythtv-0.27.3 (dated 20140907) on Gentoo. |
| [08:09:12] | cerise8192: | I have an unusual setup in that I have a server in one room which runs the backend and saves all the files into a directory which is shared via NFS. |
| [08:09:49] | cerise8192: | On my laptop, I used to be able to run mythfrontend on my laptop and it would connect to the database on the server and use the (identical) pathnames through NFS to access the files. |
| [08:10:29] | cerise8192: | Since upgrading to 0.27.3, mythfrontend forces me to mythtv-setup because it can't connect to ports on localhost. |
| [08:10:56] | cerise8192: | I have put in the IP address for the server on the backend in mythtv-setup and it's still trying to connect to localhost. |
| [08:11:43] | cerise8192: | I just did a full examination of the mythtv databases and there is nowhere that an IP or hostname is used which does not correspond to the appropriate DNS name or the IP address of the server. |
| [08:12:22] | cerise8192: | Is there a workaround for this? Or is this a bug that I should file...somewhere? |
| [08:14:32] | cerise8192: | In the console output, I see "2014-10–07 01:12:58.769392 I Testing network connectivity to '10.0.0.1' |
| [08:14:45] | cerise8192: | it continues with "2014-10–07 01:12:58.922390 E MSqlDatabase::OpenDatabase(), db object is not valid!" |
| [08:15:25] | cerise8192: | and then it attempts to bind via UDP to addresses for localhost on the laptop, but not 10.0.0.1 |
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| [08:16:03] | cerise8192: | more MSqlDatabase::OpenDatabase errors ensue |
| [08:16:20] | cerise8192: | and then it attempts to connect to the backend — again with the belief that the backend is on localhost. |
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| [08:21:06] | cerise8192: | I've put this — as well as the console output — up at http://l.armory.com/~cerise/mythtv.log |
| [08:21:22] | cerise8192: | Any help is greatly appreciated. 8) |
| [08:27:36] | Roklobsta: | getting a lot of this: "(TuningSignalCheck) TVRec[21]: See 'Tuning timeout' in mythtv-setup for this capturecard" and "(TuningSignalCheck) TVRec[21]: TuningSignalCheck: SignalMonitor timed out" |
| [08:27:40] | Roklobsta: | the signal is fine. |
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| [08:54:12] | cerise8192: | Ooh. An additional wrinkle on that bug. I can prove that it's sending no tcp or udp traffic |
| [08:54:29] | cerise8192: | At least, it's not sending tcp or udp traffic over the network. |
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| [09:12:26] | cerise8192: | I added the bug at https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/12292 |
| [09:13:33] | stuartm: | cerise8192: you don't have the qt mysql driver installed |
| [09:14:09] | stuartm: | since it's unable to connect to the database it can't determine the correct backend IP address |
| [09:14:38] | stuartm: | "QSqlDatabase: QMYSQL driver not loaded" |
| [09:21:02] | cerise8192: | Hmm. I do have dev-qt/qtsql-4.8.5 installed. Is QMYSQL something that comes along with mythtv? |
| [09:22:18] | stuartm: | cerise8192: try reinstalling it |
| [09:22:34] | stuartm: | QMYQSL doesn't come with mythtv |
| [09:22:46] | cerise8192: | I didn't think so, but I thought I should ask to be sure. |
| [09:22:51] | stuartm: | actually, qtsql isn't the correct package |
| [09:22:59] | stuartm: | which distro? |
| [09:23:02] | cerise8192: | Gentoo |
| [09:23:14] | stuartm: | hmm, no experience of Gentoo |
| [09:23:27] | cerise8192: | The description lists: qtsql SQL abstraction library for the Qt5 tooolkit |
| [09:23:53] | cerise8192: | Is there a particular file that I could search for to narrow that down? |
| [09:24:00] | cerise8192: | a .so or .a or some such? |
| [09:28:26] | stuartm: | the qt database support comes in two parts, the library which mythtv interfaces with and a series of drivers loaded by QT for the different database engines, on most distros they are supplied separately |
| [09:29:26] | stuartm: | although on most distros they don't split up the QT components UI/SQL/Core etc as they appear to do on Gentoo |
| [09:30:06] | stuartm: | libqsqlmysql.so |
| [09:30:20] | stuartm: | /usr/lib64/qt4/plugins/sqldrivers/libqsqlmysql.so |
| [09:30:36] | cerise8192: | Ok, grep shows that in dev-qt/qtsql |
| [09:30:57] | cerise8192: | I show it in that very same path. |
| [09:31:11] | cerise8192: | And it does exist. |
| [09:31:54] | stuartm: | ok, try reinstalling it then, it's not being loaded so possibly it's corrupt or just out of sync with the rest of QT |
| [09:32:50] | cerise8192: | I'll do that presently and report back in 3,000,000 years when qt finishes building. |
| [09:32:55] | cerise8192: | (The one downside of Gentoo...) |
| [09:33:30] | cerise8192: | And I should let you know if that QSqlDatabase line appears in the output afterwards? |
| [09:33:59] | stuartm: | yes, you'll not get any further until that's resolved |
| [09:34:29] | cerise8192: | Ok. Thank you much. 8) |
| [09:34:35] | stuartm: | MythTV won't work without a database, and in fact if there's any bug it's that it doesn't abort the moment it fails to connect |
| [09:34:59] | cerise8192: | That would make the error more obvious. 8) |
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| [09:39:33] | stuartm: | remove that lib manually first, that will make it clear that it's being updated/installed correctly – there's a single google result from someone on gentoo who found that it's not being built/installed with a recent version |
| [09:40:12] | stuartm: | if the version of the lib doesn't match the version of qt installed then qt may refuse to load it |
| [09:40:48] | cerise8192: | Ok. I'm destroying it presently. |
| [09:41:09] | cerise8192: | Should I also rm -rf / while I'm at it? ; ) |
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| [09:45:08] | Roklobsta: | cerise8192: i did that once. |
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| [09:45:47] | cerise8192: | In spite of the fact that I always operate as root [1], I have never actually done that. |
| [09:46:17] | stuartm: | cerise8192: I wouldn't go that far, although if you want an easy life you might switch to any other distro but Gentoo ;) |
| [09:46:18] | cerise8192: | [1] root on an SELinux system that is. And my policy makes root just as privileged as any other user. |
| [09:46:18] | MythLogBot: | SVN 1: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/ce7a5f62 |
| [09:46:29] | cerise8192: | [2] |
| [09:46:29] | MythLogBot: | SVN 2: (branch master) https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/654df684 |
| [09:46:35] | cerise8192: | Interesting! |
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| [09:48:16] | stuartm: | well any other distro except gentoo and debian |
| [09:48:29] | stuartm: | not sure which is worse atm |
| [09:48:49] | cerise8192: | Debian. Debian takes forever to put new packages in the tree. |
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| [09:49:09] | cerise8192: | I actually really like Gentoo, but that's because I rarely have to install a package with any particular deadline. |
| [09:49:28] | Roklobsta: | cerise8192: you ricer |
| [09:49:31] | cerise8192: | I script all my upgrades to happen at night (i.e. while I'm asleep), so I don't really notice the build times. |
| [09:50:02] | cerise8192: | Roklobsta: You VW bug driver. |
| [09:50:20] | Roklobsta: | hey well i did just ditch debian |
| [09:50:34] | cerise8192: | For ubuntu? |
| [09:51:17] | Roklobsta: | .... sort of mythbuntu and Mint17 for laptop |
| [09:52:13] | cerise8192: | Hmmm. I think that's more of a Prius than a VW Bug. |
| [09:53:01] | Roklobsta: | well i can't get obsessed with --funroll-loops and -SSE4.2 |
| [09:53:28] | Roklobsta: | anyway i just want my mythtv system to friggin' reliably record tv |
| [09:53:31] | Roklobsta: | it's not a big ask. |
| [09:53:53] | Roklobsta: | am i asking too much? |
| [09:53:55] | cerise8192: | Exactly my point. You want a computer to do what you want, rather than a computer that can make into what you want. |
| [09:56:15] | cerise8192: | *that you can make into what you want. |
| [09:56:47] | cerise8192: | I enjoy tinkering because I learn more about the system that way. |
| [09:57:12] | Roklobsta: | me too but i am getting crotchity |
| [09:57:39] | cerise8192: | Well, when you put it that way, then your problem is that you're getting old. |
| [09:57:42] | cerise8192: | Stop that. |
| [09:58:13] | cerise8192: | It's like Goodman Ace said: You're only as old as the woman you feel. |
| [09:58:58] | Roklobsta: | sweet |
| [10:00:03] | Roklobsta: | i have a pile of DVB-T cards that all give me crap in one way or another. Philips, Zarlink, Afatech, RTL, Conexant... |
| [10:00:47] | Roklobsta: | and now a problem with mythfrontend going to 100%cpu use when the 90minute stanby timer kicks in |
| [10:01:31] | Roklobsta: | and now i discover this quad dvb card can't be had. http://www.digitalnow.com.au/product_pages/Quad.html |
| [10:01:31] | cerise8192: | Ouch. |
| [10:01:59] | stuartm: | Roklobsta: which theme are you using? |
| [10:02:22] | Roklobsta: | stuartm: it happens on all of them. from the old unanimated ones to the new fancy ones |
| [10:02:38] | stuartm: | ok, that's very strange |
| [10:03:14] | Roklobsta: | i can see in htop one of the ~15 mythfrontend threads is pegged at 100% and one of the cpus is at max MHz |
| [10:04:17] | Roklobsta: | but only happens when the standby timer expires |
| [10:04:46] | Roklobsta: | its like the thread is stuck spinning waiting for something to never happen. |
| [10:05:40] | Roklobsta: | what happens when the standby timer expires? in 6 years i never used standby mode so I am a bit perplexed. |
| [10:05:58] | stuartm: | Roklobsta: we flip an internal flag, nothing more |
| [10:05:59] | Roklobsta: | coincidentally the idle timer in the setting was set to 90mins and I set it to 0 with no difference. |
| [10:06:22] | stuartm: | it allows a mythbackend to shutdown when it's not needed |
| [10:06:30] | Roklobsta: | oh ok |
| [10:06:43] | stuartm: | Roklobsta: in the latest -fixes setting it to 0 will disable it entirely |
| [10:06:55] | Roklobsta: | i am using 0.28 |
| [10:06:59] | stuartm: | same deal |
| [10:07:02] | Roklobsta: | yep |
| [10:07:43] | Roklobsta: | ok so it sets a flag. is there some obscure setting in mythbackendthat i should remove or disable? is it a system call to a script or function to go to sleep? |
| [10:07:57] | Roklobsta: | still its the front end with the problem not the backend |
| [10:09:44] | Roklobsta: | here: is this 90mins the same as the value in the frontend settings? Mine is set to 0 and I still see 90 in the logs. mythmainwindow.cpp:2781 (IdleTimeout) Entering standby mode after 90 minutes of inactivity |
| [10:09:59] | stuartm: | Roklobsta: no, there's really nothing else in the frontend, could be a QTimer bug which explains why no-one else is seeing it |
| [10:10:16] | stuartm: | Roklobsta: that was a bug which is now fixed |
| [10:10:24] | stuartm: | zero really will mean zero |
| [10:10:25] | Roklobsta: | how long ago? |
| [10:10:32] | stuartm: | 3 days? |
| [10:10:35] | Roklobsta: | ok |
| [10:11:09] | Roklobsta: | i just fetched 0.28.0~master.20141007.ad5f589–0ubuntu0mythbuntu2 |
| [10:31:33] | stuartm: | cerise8192: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992964-start-0.html << This suggests that the Gentoo 'package' might be broken, driver is installed but QT can't load it |
| [10:32:25] | stuartm: | the linker can't find it in the installed location |
| [10:33:12] | stuartm: | normally I'd suggest editing /etc/ld.so.conf and adding the directory before running ldconfig |
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| [19:20:28] | esperegu: | there is a new 0.28 ppa out (looks like previous build was 8 weeks ago) and after dist-upgrade mythfrontend gives me errors: http://dpaste.com/2RPWC65 any suggestions? |
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| [20:54:39] | tgm4883: | esperegu: I'm assuming you have it figured out, but the newest 0.28 build was 13 hours ago |
| [20:56:23] | esperegu: | tgm4883: yes. |
| [20:56:38] | esperegu: | tgm4883: I downloaded the debs from here: https://launchpad.net/~mythbuntu/+archive/ubu . . . uild/6407231 |
| [20:56:41] | esperegu: | and installed tohes |
| [20:56:54] | esperegu: | haven't seen the issue again thus far |
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| [21:45:01] | tgm4883: | FFS -user, why do we need a third thread on schedules direct |
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| [22:02:20] | paul-h: | tgm4883: are you on the developers list now? |
| [22:02:33] | tgm4883: | paul-h: not that I know of |
| [22:02:40] | tgm4883: | someone was going to work it out, but IDK if they did |
| [22:03:44] | paul-h: | I thought I saw stuartm say he was adding you |
| [22:04:11] | tgm4883: | it's possible he did, but I didn't receive anything saying I was added |
| [22:04:17] | tgm4883: | nor do I know what the email for the list is |
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| [22:08:16] | dekarl: | tgm4883: you should get the usual "welcome to yaddayaddaliste" mail from mailman once its sorted out |
| [22:14:04] | tgm4883: | dekarl: paul-h stuartm thanks, it's all worked out now |
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