| Tuesday, September 16th, 2014, 00:01 UTC | ||
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| [00:02:17] | fmcd: | myth backend .. run on bare metal or inside a VM? |
| [00:08:00] | wagnerrp: | mythtv needs tuners |
| [00:08:05] | wagnerrp: | tuners are physical hardware |
| [00:08:10] | wagnerrp: | makes VMs a bit tough |
| [00:11:17] | fmcd: | i'm thinking of xen and using pci passthru for the tuners |
| [00:11:33] | wagnerrp: | PCI passthrough is iffy at best |
| [00:11:51] | fmcd: | although actually my main tuners are gonna be a hdhomerun with transcoding, so that would actually be over the network |
| [00:12:06] | wagnerrp: | driver developers basically won't try to debug any issues unless it can be reproduced on bare metal |
| [00:12:42] | fmcd: | true enough |
| [00:12:55] | wagnerrp: | ultimately, it comes down to a question of what your reasoning for using a VM is |
| [00:13:33] | fmcd: | well mainly cos might have a few other VMs to run on the same machine |
| [00:13:44] | fmcd: | i suppose myth might as well be in dom0 though |
| [00:13:58] | wagnerrp: | nearly all the containerization of virtual machines can be accomplished without the virtual machine |
| [00:14:17] | wagnerrp: | all the VM really provides is a custom kernel, and security isolation for that kernel |
| [00:14:42] | fmcd: | plus isolation of software selction / deps / etc |
| [00:14:58] | wagnerrp: | right, that's containerization, which can be done with or without a virtual machine |
| [00:15:15] | wagnerrp: | virtual machines require containers, containers do not require virtual machines |
| [00:16:21] | fmcd: | i suppose its a matter of convenience |
| [00:18:03] | fmcd: | right.. bare metal for now |
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| [00:18:43] | fmcd: | is there a preferred distro ? |
| [00:20:02] | wagnerrp: | for people new to linux, mythbuntu |
| [00:20:08] | fmcd: | if i want to build from nightlies |
| [00:20:09] | wagnerrp: | for everyone else, whatever distro they're used to |
| [00:20:26] | wagnerrp: | no sense trying to learn mythtv and a new distro simultaneously |
| [00:21:04] | fmcd: | debian wheezy up to date enough? |
| [00:22:20] | wagnerrp: | i know the debian packagers have done some things that have caused issues with mythtv in the past |
| [00:22:33] | wagnerrp: | but if you're building your own nightly, that won't be an issue |
| [00:23:18] | fmcd: | ok |
| [00:23:49] | wagnerrp: | issues mostly related to ffmpeg |
| [00:24:07] | wagnerrp: | we package our own ffmpeg, because ffmpeg changes, and we have our own patches for ffmpeg |
| [00:24:20] | wagnerrp: | it's a non-trivial process to periodically update our internal version |
| [00:24:32] | wagnerrp: | and the debian packagers like to try to link us against the system ffmpeg |
| [00:25:49] | fmcd: | ah |
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