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Wednesday, August 27th, 2014, 00:13 UTC
[00:13:03] BLZbubba: hi guys, how do I tell mythtv to record the current show on a channel?
[00:13:11] BLZbubba: this has been bugging me for years
[00:13:37] BLZbubba: i set it up to record this show with the highest priority, and future episodes appear properly in the upcoming recordings
[00:14:20] BLZbubba: the current show has an extra thick, slightly lighter color of green around it in mythweb, and no combination of check boxes will cause it to record
[00:35:41] BLZbubba: if i set it to record normally instead of schedule override, it says it conflicts with something that is higher priority, even though it is set to 99
[00:37:57] BLZbubba: going into the guide and selecting "re-record" worked
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[03:40:39] BTJustice: I have a Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1800. I went to http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Digital_Tuner_Cards and it is not listed as being supported. I then found http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-1800 which makes it sound as if it is in fact supported. I went through the directions at http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/How_to_Obta . . . vice_Drivers but it appears to not have worked. Why would this popular, older TV
[03:40:39] BTJustice: Tuner card not be supported?
[03:43:07] [R]: you'll have to ask the linuxtv people that
[03:46:27] BTJustice: Doing that now in #linuxtv
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[03:52:31] wagnerrp: BTJustice: as that page states, it is not to be considered authoritative
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[03:53:55] BTJustice: And that mythtv page I linked says right near the top, "Warning: This is an incomplete list of available devices not supported devices. For a full list of supported devices, see the LinuxTV wiki for the relevant API."
[03:55:26] BTJustice: So, to me, that means, "OK. The mythTV list is not complete so let me go to the LinuxTV link. OK. It is should work if I do thiese directions. Done. Reboot. Nope still not working."
[03:56:07] BTJustice: It is not too big of a deal to me to simply buy a new TV tuner card or some other video capture device as long as mythTV supports it.
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[03:56:21] [R]: myth has no idividual support
[03:56:26] [R]: linuxtv doies
[03:56:29] BTJustice: But it is a pain trying to figure out what is and is not supported.
[03:56:52] BTJustice: What?
[03:57:07] [R]: myth uses an api
[03:57:08] [R]: the linuxtv api
[03:57:12] [R]: if lnikuxtv supports it... then myth supports it
[03:57:30] wagnerrp: there have been cases where a card was supported (by linuxtv), and then that card was replaced by a newer one of the same model number that is unsupported
[03:57:43] BTJustice: Exactly! LinuxTV, in those directions, says it should work. But it does not.
[03:58:13] [R]: the card is not workimg with the driver... its mot that ,yth explicitlu doesmt work with it
[03:58:13] wagnerrp: 1800 or 1850?
[03:58:18] BTJustice: The Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1800 was replaced by the Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850, but as I said, I have the 1800.
[03:58:23] wagnerrp: i was under the impression they haven't sold the 1800 for years
[03:58:37] BTJustice: Mine is about 7 0r 8 years old.
[03:59:13] BTJustice: I was using it in Windows 7 with NPVR until a few months ago when I finally switched over to Linux completely.
[03:59:18] wagnerrp: so presumably the drivers have made it into the kernel by now
[03:59:23] wagnerrp: have you downloaded the firmware?
[03:59:47] BTJustice: If it was in the directions, I did, but let me check.
[04:00:17] wagnerrp: pastebin the output of running 'dmesg'
[04:02:17] BTJustice: http://pastebin.com/DyXtssJt
[04:05:06] wagnerrp: not seeing anything... does 'lspci' pick it up?
[04:05:38] wagnerrp: try running 'modprobe cx23885' and see if dmesg reports the driver loading up
[04:06:18] BTJustice: Damn... FATAL: Module cx23885 not found.
[04:06:33] wagnerrp: what distro?
[04:06:55] BTJustice: elementary OS Luna (Ubuntu 12.04 LTS)
[04:07:06] BTJustice: lspci says... 05:00.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant Systems, Inc. CX23887/8 PCIe Broadcast Audio and Video Decoder with 3D Comb (rev 0f)
[04:07:21] wagnerrp: ubuntu should have nearly all the drivers in the kernel built and available for use
[04:07:29] wagnerrp: not sure about "elementary os" though
[04:07:59] BTJustice: I think I did not do the firmware. Let me do that now.
[04:08:09] wagnerrp: also, virtualbox bits at the end... i wouldn't expect to get a tuner card to work reliably if you plan on running mythtv in a virtual machine
[04:08:59] wagnerrp: the firmware doesn't matter if you don't have the drivers
[04:09:12] wagnerrp: the firmware is just something that gets pushed onto the card, to run the card
[04:09:19] wagnerrp: the drivers then communicate with the firmware
[04:13:56] BTJustice: I just finished the firmware, lol.
[04:14:24] BTJustice: Maybe it would be easier if I just told you my setup. It's really simple...
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[04:15:26] BTJustice: I have DirecTV. The DTV STB is connected to the WinTV card with SVid and RCA audio cables. A Microsoft eHome Blaster changes the channels.
[04:15:45] BTJustice: At least this is what i did in WIndows and NPVR.
[04:16:55] wagnerrp: last i heard, there were some weird issues with the driver for that card that prevented analog from working with mythtv
[04:17:09] wagnerrp: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Analog_Hardware_Encoder_Cards
[04:17:36] wagnerrp: not sure if that was ever resolved
[04:17:41] BTJustice: Yeah I now see near the bottom of the LinuxTV directions it will not do analog. Those dummies should have put it at the top. Sigh!
[04:19:38] BTJustice: I can go out and buy another card. Might you have a suggestion?
[04:20:04] BTJustice: Heck even a plain old video capture card would work since i have a separate tuner box.
[04:20:12] wagnerrp: for analog? you can probably pick up an old PVR150 for $15-$20, if you can find one
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[04:20:23] wagnerrp: otherwise, an HVR-2250
[04:20:30] wagnerrp: if you want HD, HDPVR (v1)
[04:20:33] BTJustice: I kind of want ot move over to HDMI.
[04:20:45] wagnerrp: HDMI isn't an option, since it's going to be encrypted
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[04:21:09] wagnerrp: component is preferred. if HDMI is required, you can try an HDFury to convert to component
[04:21:37] BTJustice: I just want to be able to record videos in widescreen natively.
[04:21:52] BTJustice: My current setup always did 720X480 in WIndows with NPVR.
[04:22:21] wagnerrp: yes, but it was still 4:3, not widescreen
[04:22:32] BTJustice: I would rather have vertical bars for SD stuff but no bars for Widescreen stuff.
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[04:24:24] wagnerrp: the only way you're going to get widescreen is with component video (or HDMI through an adapter to component)
[04:24:31] BTJustice: So there is no video capture card I could use in mythTV? It has to be a TV Tuner card?
[04:24:56] wagnerrp: the only HD capture device currently supported by mythtv is the HDPVR
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[04:27:32] BTJustice: I see you recommended the 2250. Looks like that has been updated to the 2255 and the specs seem almost identical to my current 1800.
[04:28:05] wagnerrp: the 1800 is a dual tuner
[04:28:12] wagnerrp: the 2250(5) is a dual hybrid tuner
[04:28:23] wagnerrp: meaning two tuners that can be either analog or digital
[04:28:28] wagnerrp: rather than one analog tuner and one digital tuner
[04:28:50] wagnerrp: i know several people use the 2250. i know nothing about the 2255
[04:30:10] BTJustice: HD PVR2 is not recommended?
[04:30:29] wagnerrp: i don't believe there is a linux driver available for it
[04:30:50] wagnerrp: and if there is one, it's not supported yet by mythtv
[04:31:00] BTJustice: Newegg doesn't have the original so I will have to dig on eBay.
[04:33:12] BTJustice: I wish there was an easier way to do this. Like I said, I have a DirecTV STB right next to my computer. It would be nice if there was some sort of video capture card (not TV Tuner) available that is well-supported in Linux and mythTV and mythTV could blast channel changes over to the STB and simply capture through the capture card.
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[04:35:42] BTJustice: I see a lot of eBay listings for the Hauppauge HD PVR 1212 HD DVR, but that is not the same thing as the original Hauppauge HD PVR right?
[04:37:20] wagnerrp: "1212" was the internal model number for the original HDPVR
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[04:38:33] wagnerrp: before you go buying stuff, i would recommend trying to get that card working digitally with an antenna and trying mythtv for a bit
[04:39:56] BTJustice: Closest town broadcasting digital is 50 miles away from me so I don't see that happening. I do everything on DirecTV.
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[04:49:41] BTJustice: If I can get a good, used, working 1212, I am OK with that. Thanks for your help wagnerrp.
[04:50:08] tgm4883: BTJustice: only 50 miles? That seems easy enough
[04:50:48] BTJustice: With an external antenna on a tower it probably is, but not an indoor antenna. That dog don't hunt.
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[04:52:25] BTJustice: I checked once on antennaweb and they gave my location a pretty low rating even with an external antenna. Why go through all that trouble for two channels?
[04:53:08] tgm4883: BTJustice: good point, but I've done an antenna in the attic when the broadcaster was 70 miles away, so it's doable
[04:54:20] BTJustice: It might be fun to try it sometime just for the fun of it, but the closest big city to me is 100+ miles away and that is St. Louis.
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[07:57:57] esperegu: when I switch (dvb-s) to a BBC hd channel the video is flickering (audio works fine). If I then go back to the menu and then press live tv again in plays properly. anybody knows if that is fixable?
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[13:34:58] niobos_: sphery: to continue the (partial) discussion of last week: I've tried to get hold of a tuner by issueing a LOCK_TUNER to mythtv (and got a succesful reply), however, the tuner is still opened by myth, so I get an Device or resource busy
[13:35:14] niobos_: and the tuner is set to be opened on-demand
[13:35:48] niobos_: using: mythtv 2:0.27.0+fixes.20140324.8ee257c-0ubuntu3
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[18:48:07] ThisOneGuy: Hi all – can anyone help me get live tv working? I'm using master. The FE shows "please wait" and then back to the menu. Here are the logs from FE and BE: http://pastebin.com/yzmvBd4C
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[19:53:42] ctmjr: ThisOneGuy: did you set up storage groups and if yes does the user running mythtv have write access to them
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[21:28:59] earthw0rm: Hi, can anyone help me with securing mythweb?
[21:29:06] earthw0rm: I'm pretty sure I've followed the instructions but it's not asking for a password
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[21:35:11] justinh: did you restart apache after changing the config?
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[21:36:52] justinh: or did you change the config so any address on a local subnet is allowed in without a password? I finally got round to setting mine like that. when I'm at home I don't wanna use a password
[21:37:25] earthw0rm: justinh, Maybe they made that the default?
[21:37:37] earthw0rm: What's the line in the config that does that?
[21:37:50] earthw0rm: Thanks for the suggestion btw
[21:48:51] justinh: Order Allow, Deny | Allow from 192.168.1. | Satisfy Any
[21:49:14] justinh: or whatever your local address range is
[21:50:24] justinh: http://pastebin.ca/2836205 is the auth section of my mythweb.conf file
[21:52:40] earthw0rm: justinh, Outstanding, that's really helpful thanks mate
[21:53:24] earthw0rm: justinh, What have you got under <IfModule mod_authz_core.c>?
[21:53:37] earthw0rm: I'm playing with that and that seems to be helping
[21:54:34] justinh: <IfModule mod_authz_core.c>? ??? no such thing in my file
[21:54:39] earthw0rm: I've bodged mine thusly, and it's now asking for a password
[21:54:41] earthw0rm: http://fpaste.org/129124/76445140/
[21:55:04] earthw0rm: Hmm, maybe you're apache is older?
[21:55:27] justinh: it looks like that only says if the auth module is loaded, do this..
[21:55:54] earthw0rm: Maybe I can just comment the whole lot out then
[21:55:55] justinh: maybe it's older. I don't care. It works :)
[21:56:08] earthw0rm: Haha, don't blame you mate
[21:56:23] justinh: no, you need modauth to use digest authentication I think
[21:58:00] earthw0rm: I just tried it, it seems to work. That bit must be overriding the other lines somehow
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[22:00:05] justinh: ahh fedora.. not played with that since my last job
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[23:17:17] jya: anyone wanting to try devel/027candidates ? it has changed related to the audio channel change detection (going from stereo -> multichannels etc…) it also allows for instant detection to be shown in the OSD (and not just showing the value when playback started)
[23:17:45] jya: I don’t know how FFmpeg 1.2 behaved with the new API used for that.. and I have no mean of testing for another week
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[23:21:22] splurben: This morning I got "This version of MythTV requires an updated database. (schema is 5000 versions behind) Please run mythtv-setup or mythbackend to update your database. Host: localhost, Database: mythconverg; mythbackend won't start, recently upgraded to 0.27.1_p20140817 ---- logs and config data here http://pastebin.com/LbHVyJxk
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[23:28:38] jya: 5000???
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[23:29:17] splurben: I know, I have daily backups. But something else seems to be happening here.
[23:29:34] jya: what happen when you start mythtv-setup ? I would restore from the last known working database backup
[23:29:40] jya: sound like something got corrupted
[23:30:20] jya: and don’t compile myth with mythlogserver (or tell the gentoo folks not to)
[23:30:55] splurben: when I start mythtv-setup I get, Warning: MythTV want to upgrade your database, for the TV schema, from to 1317, MythTV was unable to backup your database
[23:31:11] splurben: and then Upgrade failed, for obvious reasons
[23:31:32] splurben: yesterday's backups was a megabyte larger than the previous 10 backups.
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[23:56:07] splurben: Never restored a database before, returned "ERROR: Unable to do a full restore. The database contains data."
[23:57:50] splurben: nevermind, just saw "replacing an existing database" docs
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[23:59:16] splurben: don't see an option to install without mythlogserver from portage

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