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| [00:02:34] | wagnerrp: | Muzer: there is no "buffer". all television is a recording |
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| [00:02:52] | wagnerrp: | when you hit "record" during a live tv session, it marks the current recording as a permanent recording |
| [00:04:06] | Muzer: | wagnerrp: ah, OK. |
| [00:04:38] | Muzer: | does this mean it starts a new recording session each time a programme starts? |
| [00:04:52] | wagnerrp: | correct |
| [00:05:00] | Muzer: | ah, thanks |
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| [00:05:19] | wagnerrp: | however those multiple recordings are stitched together, so you can still rewind to a previous program during your livetv session |
| [00:05:20] | Muzer: | so hopefully this recording should be complete :) |
| [00:05:25] | Muzer: | yeah |
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| [03:15:31] | waxhead: | quick question, can I ask a general mythbuntu upgrade question here or hit the ubuntu-users channel? |
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| [03:17:03] | ikevin: | it maybe better to ask on ubuntu's channel |
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| [05:10:00] | lwizardl: | hello |
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| [07:34:59] | waxonmyth_: | hi everyone |
| [07:35:11] | waxonmyth_: | struggling with a failed dist upgrade |
| [07:35:27] | waxonmyth_: | but the issue is now down to upgrading the schema in mythtv for 0.26 |
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| [08:25:51] | enyc: | Muzer: mythtv *used* to have a playback ring buffer etc. but it no longer does — now all playback is a recording as above =) |
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| [13:33:26] | waxhead: | Hi everyone... |
| [13:33:39] | waxhead: | back to working out this issue with the schema upgrade... |
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| [13:54:50] | waxhead_: | when runnings the mythtv-setup, is there any output/loggin from that console that runs ? |
| [13:55:01] | waxhead_: | I can't find where the schema upgrade is failing |
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| [14:12:44] | bill6502: | waxhead_: depends on how mythtv-setup was started. from the command line: mythtv-setup --logpath /tmp would put file in /tmp that has the best log format (and is easy to put in a pastebin if it came to that.) Note that ideally, it should be run as the mythtv user. |
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| [14:13:49] | waxhead_: | bill6502, thanks.. I think I'm making some headway... |
| [14:13:53] | waxhead_: | I found the log file to start with |
| [14:14:05] | waxhead_: | there's a duplicate error in the log |
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| [14:17:10] | waxhead_: | OK, so this is the query that fails the upgrade for 1312 |
| [14:17:11] | waxhead_: | http://pastebin.com/RdrK4Gv3 |
| [14:17:26] | waxhead_: | should I remove the duplicate and if so, which one? |
| [14:36:33] | waxhead_: | OK.. finally have the schema upgraded... |
| [14:36:49] | sphery: | waxhead_: can delete either or both |
| [14:36:51] | waxhead_: | going through mytv-setup... home come I've lost my capture cards and previous settings? |
| [14:36:52] | sphery: | doesn't matter much |
| [14:36:57] | waxhead_: | sphery, thanks... |
| [14:36:58] | sphery: | shouldn't have had any duplicates, though |
| [14:37:10] | sphery: | if your capture cards are gone it's because you changed hostnames |
| [14:37:17] | sphery: | on the system but not in mythtv |
| [14:37:25] | sphery: | so you're using all new settings |
| [14:37:29] | sphery: | and your system won't work at all |
| [14:37:41] | waxhead_: | can I crash out now and rename the values in config.xml? |
| [14:37:48] | sphery: | changed host names could be as simple as going from hostname to hostname.domainname |
| [14:38:01] | waxhead_: | oh... |
| [14:38:08] | waxhead_: | you mean OS level hostname change? |
| [14:38:46] | sphery: | <LocalHostName> in config.xml can be used to go back to the proper one |
| [14:38:52] | sphery: | just make sure you put it in every config.xml |
| [14:38:55] | sphery: | on that system |
| [14:38:58] | sphery: | and, yes, os leve |
| [14:39:11] | sphery: | which we use to get a unique name for your host to use for storing settings, etc. |
| [14:39:21] | sphery: | what does hostname command give you on the system |
| [14:39:36] | waxhead_: | mediacentre |
| [14:39:41] | waxhead_: | but I had localhost in config.xml |
| [14:39:43] | sphery: | and before it was mythtv-main? |
| [14:40:11] | sphery: | as in you had <LocalHostName>localhost</LocalHostName> in config.xml |
| [14:40:48] | sphery: | there are many places where localhost could exist in config.xml, in some cases it's ok, in others it's not necessarily ok, and IMHO, never good |
| [14:40:59] | sphery: | what do/did you have in config.xml |
| [14:41:21] | waxhead_: | sphery, yes, I had myth-main |
| [14:41:37] | waxhead_: | for some reason the config.xml lost the LocalHostName node... |
| [14:41:39] | waxhead_: | just added it back... |
| [14:41:56] | waxhead_: | can I kill the mythtv-setup and not go any futher with out breaking anything? |
| [14:41:56] | sphery: | then restart mythtv-setup and verify you're back to proper config |
| [14:42:02] | sphery: | then start mythbackend |
| [14:42:11] | sphery: | just exit mythtv-setup |
| [14:42:19] | sphery: | unless you've actually added in any capture cards |
| [14:42:22] | sphery: | or storage directories |
| [14:42:28] | sphery: | in which case you need to delete them first |
| [14:42:42] | sphery: | Delete all Storage Directories |
| [14:42:42] | waxhead_: | woo hoo!! old config is showing up the myth theme!!! |
| [14:42:48] | sphery: | or Delete all capture cards on hostname |
| [14:42:58] | sphery: | you didn't add any did you? |
| [14:43:28] | waxhead_: | nope... |
| [14:43:31] | sphery: | cool |
| [14:43:33] | sphery: | you should be good |
| [14:43:37] | waxhead_: | just stopped and then exited out... |
| [14:43:40] | sphery: | just make sure you keep your LocalHostName override |
| [14:43:44] | waxhead_: | just check and all cardsa re showing up... |
| [14:43:47] | waxhead_: | will do.. |
| [14:43:48] | waxhead_: | thanks |
| [14:43:51] | sphery: | enjoy |
| [14:43:54] | waxhead_: | man.. what a day! |
| [14:44:05] | waxhead_: | and all because I couldn't find that darn log file... |
| [14:44:14] | waxhead_: | stupidly too me too long... |
| [14:44:49] | waxhead_: | lets reboot and see if things start up correctly... |
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| [14:52:01] | waxhead_: | and it's working after reboot |
| [14:52:05] | waxhead_: | next mythweb |
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| [15:45:57] | waxhead_: | and now mythweb is working again... |
| [15:46:00] | waxhead_: | time for bed.. |
| [15:46:15] | waxhead_: | thanks for the sphery for the myth setup stuff |
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| [17:30:27] | ctmjr: | I see tvland is still adding 10 to 15 minutes of commercials to a 30 minute show |
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| [18:37:54] | SteveGoodey: | ctmjr: No! that's terrible. |
| [18:42:50] | ctmjr: | SteveGoodey: you do not understand or i did not say it right they make a 30 minute show last 45 minute's by adding commercials to it |
| [18:47:58] | ctmjr: | which screws with my recording schedule |
| [18:50:24] | Kwisher: | i'm seeing a Golden Girls to be 36 mins |
| [18:51:39] | Kwisher: | other normally 30 min show to be 30 mins |
| [18:53:17] | [R]: | maybe you shouldn't be recording golden girls... |
| [18:53:50] | Kwisher: | i'm not, just wondering what ctmjr is talking about |
| [18:54:30] | [R]: | oh... |
| [18:54:41] | [R]: | he probably just needs more tuners |
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| [18:58:53] | ctmjr: | ok, as an example the cosby show tonight starts at 8 and ends at 8:45 which throws all the other shows off by 15 minutes and no i have plenty of tuners |
| [18:59:38] | [R]: | "all the other shows"? |
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| [19:02:08] | Kwisher: | The Cosby Show: |
| [19:02:08] | Kwisher: | Play It Again, Russell |
| [19:02:08] | Kwisher: | Sat, Aug 23, 08:00 PM to 08:36 PM (36 mins) |
| [19:02:30] | Kwisher: | where do you get 45 mins? |
| [19:03:51] | Kwisher: | even if it wa 45 mins it would record for 45 mins, not 30 mins |
| [19:05:00] | kormoc: | I think he just is upset at the wasted 15 minutes until the start of the next normal timeslot |
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| [19:07:46] | ctmjr: | kormoc: yes, thank you |
| [19:09:09] | Kwisher: | i see now |
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