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| [01:07:08] | dmfrey: | i started getting no audio on my hdhrprime tuners on live tv playback only |
| [01:07:17] | dmfrey: | recordings seem to play fine |
| [01:08:06] | dmfrey: | videos are fine too |
| [01:08:35] | dmfrey: | E CoreContext audio/audiooutputalsa.cpp:783 (SetParameters) ALSA: Requested 500000us got 170666 buffer time |
| [01:08:43] | dmfrey: | seeing messages like that on live tv playback |
| [01:10:18] | dmfrey: | E CoreContext audio/audiooutputalsa.cpp:242 (IncPreallocBufferSize) ALSA: Try to manually increase audio buffer with: echo 192 | sudo tee /proc/asound/card0/pcm3p/sub0/prealloc |
| [01:11:29] | dmfrey: | this is what is called right before those E messages: |
| [01:11:30] | dmfrey: | I CoreContext audio/audiooutputbase.cpp:792 (Reconfigure) AOBase: Opening audio device 'hdmi:CARD=NVidia, |
| [01:11:30] | dmfrey: | DEV=0' ch 2(2) sr 48000 sf signed 32 bit reenc 0 |
| [01:11:50] | dmfrey: | something change with how the audio device is handled? |
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| [01:12:55] | dmfrey: | seems to be happening on both my frontends (one is combined be/fe) |
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| [01:53:53] | Hydr0p0nX: | have you updated anything ? |
| [01:55:11] | dmfrey: | just the apt updates |
| [01:55:37] | dmfrey: | ubuntu 12.04.1 was just released (might have the version number off there) |
| [01:55:43] | dmfrey: | not sure if that has anything to do with it |
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| [01:59:09] | mattwj2002: | hi guys |
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| [01:59:28] | mattwj2002: | I am doing over the air mythtv right now |
| [02:01:24] | mattwj2002: | anyone around? |
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| [06:20:40] | henkpoley: | in recording playback audio always works flawlessly, but in livetv I get either of no audio, static noise, or maybe.. the actual sound |
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| [09:01:54] | stuartm: | henkpoley: are you using pulseaudio? |
| [09:02:08] | stuartm: | [12/08/2014 09:55:38] <jya> static audio is usually an issue with pulse audio users |
| [09:02:32] | stuartm: | we don't recommend the use of pulseaudio, it's not very good |
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| [09:17:51] | henkpoley: | stuartm: and what if I connect to ALSA while pulseaudio is active? |
| [09:18:15] | henkpoley: | stuartm: also, how to keep ‚the rest’ (chrome / firefox / flash) working on a desktop machine |
| [09:19:36] | henkpoley: | default ubuntu desktop, so I guess it’s pulseaudio. On my backend system I use the mythbuntu desktop (some XFCE remix). Does that use pulseaudio? |
| [09:20:07] | henkpoley: | mythtv 1847 0.0 0.1 293664 5500 ? S<l 11:17 0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog |
| [09:20:12] | henkpoley: | I guess so |
| [09:20:48] | stuartm: | you can't connect directly to alsa while pulseaudio is running, pulseaudio intercepts all audio |
| [09:20:49] | henkpoley: | btw, why does it always work correctly when playing back a recording? But only had bugs in livetv mode? |
| [09:21:36] | stuartm: | probably due to differences in the amount of audio/video we buffer, but you'd have to ask jya for a more informed answer |
| [09:21:43] | henkpoley: | odd, does pulse have some way to make a program believe it talks to ALSA? (device redirect) Since it does work with ALSA:..something.. in the audio settings |
| [09:22:10] | stuartm: | yes |
| [09:22:27] | henkpoley: | On my backend system (which also runs a frontend). It says. ALSA:hdmi:CARD=NVidia |
| [09:22:28] | jya: | you don’t have to uninstall pulse when using myth, but you can select a pure ALSA device (not the pulse emulated one) |
| [09:22:59] | jya: | can’t explain why you would get an issue with live tv only. try to upgrade to the latest fixes/0.27 |
| [09:22:59] | stuartm: | jya: ah, guess that's changed then |
| [09:23:17] | jya: | you said you’ve have had this issue since forever |
| [09:23:31] | henkpoley: | jya: I can play recordings just fine. But LiveTV „sometimes†has static noise or no audio. With the recent updates (0.27.3) that sometimes has become „most of the time†|
| [09:23:32] | jya: | stuartm: we’ve been suspending pulse to use alsa native since at least 0.24 |
| [09:23:59] | henkpoley: | jya: you want me to compile, so I get more recent than what ubuntu ships ? |
| [09:24:04] | jya: | no |
| [09:24:20] | jya: | but what you’re running is much older than what mythbuntu daily has |
| [09:24:25] | henkpoley: | MythTV Version : v0.27.3-147-g628337c |
| [09:24:27] | jya: | (it’s a version from april) |
| [09:24:30] | henkpoley: | Library API : 0.27.20140719–1 |
| [09:24:42] | jya: | ah that’s newer than what you gave earlier today |
| [09:25:04] | henkpoley: | jya: sure that was on the backend, which had some odd breakage |
| [09:25:38] | henkpoley: | anyways, the versions are now the same on both my systems. And now both my systems have the same problem |
| [09:25:56] | jya: | first time I hear of it (sorry for the pun) |
| [09:26:18] | henkpoley: | nvidia 331.something |
| [09:26:36] | henkpoley: | Though afaik audio goes through a different path than the VGA driver |
| [09:26:59] | henkpoley: | intel hda, isn’t it ? |
| [09:27:43] | henkpoley: | None of the „digital audio capabilites†are enabled in the settings |
| [09:27:46] | jya: | intel hda is just the generic class of those audio drivers |
| [09:28:03] | henkpoley: | Audio test gives white noise (always did that) |
| [09:28:16] | henkpoley: | I know |
| [09:29:05] | henkpoley: | None of the checkboxes in ‚advanced audio settings†are enabled. though I did toggle some of the 48Hz ones. Doesn’t change a thing. |
| [09:29:25] | henkpoley: | Wait. HBR passthrough is enabled by default. It is for me. |
| [09:29:34] | jya: | 628337c is a broken version… upgrade to the latest mythbuntu |
| [09:30:29] | jya: | that one has issue with audio when starting live tv |
| [09:30:38] | henkpoley: | $ LANG=C sudo apt-get upgrade |
| [09:30:44] | henkpoley: | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| [09:30:51] | henkpoley: | You want me to go to 0.28 ? |
| [09:30:52] | jya: | you’ll have to do update first |
| [09:30:56] | jya: | no |
| [09:31:09] | henkpoley: | did update 10 seconds ago |
| [09:31:17] | henkpoley: | apt-get update |
| [09:31:40] | jya: | the last version is v0.27.3-150-g082d5c1 |
| [09:31:55] | henkpoley: | $ lsb_release -d |
| [09:31:56] | henkpoley: | Description: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS |
| [09:32:24] | henkpoley: | $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mythbuntu-0_27-trusty.list |
| [09:32:24] | henkpoley: | deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/0.27/ubuntu trusty main |
| [09:32:59] | henkpoley: | hmm, that’s not ^deb |
| [09:34:26] | henkpoley: | upgrading mythtv now |
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| [09:35:11] | henkpoley: | to 0.27.3+fixes.20140812.082d5c1 |
| [09:35:26] | henkpoley: | Lets see if my frontend-only system can get it too |
| [09:40:07] | henkpoley: | I wish the commandline repo updater was still around |
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| [09:42:36] | henkpoley: | jya stuartm : backend appears to work ‚fine’. Some stuttering when changing channels, at least there after it works. |
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| [09:50:48] | henkpoley: | Hmm.. my updated (0.27.3+fixes.20140812.082d5c1) frontend only system just crashed while tuning. It did have (HDMI-only) audio right away though. Do that’s an improvement. |
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| [09:59:50] | henkpoley: | btw, nice that you can now change the deinterlacer within livetv. Makes it a lot easier to tweak the setting, than the roundrip trough settings, |
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| [10:22:00] | jya: | henkpoley: that has been possible for about 3 years |
| [10:22:03] | jya: | if not more |
| [10:22:12] | henkpoley: | Anyways, nice it’s there :) |
| [10:22:25] | jya: | but not with all hardware accelerated methods |
| [10:23:14] | jya: | henkpoley: if you experience crashes, a backtrace is always more useful that sarcastic comments... |
| [10:23:26] | henkpoley: | sorry |
| [10:23:39] | henkpoley: | Wasn’t trying to be sarcastic |
| [10:24:06] | henkpoley: | Can’t backtrace a crash that already happened :-/ |
| [10:24:42] | henkpoley: | Unless ubuntu’s crash logger stores it somewhere (like on OS X) |
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| [10:26:30] | henkpoley: | ERROR: apport (pid 2893) Tue Aug 12 11:49:40 2014: apport: report /var/crash/_usr_bin_mythfrontend.real.1000.crash already exists and unseen, doing nothing to avoid disk usage DoS |
| [10:26:53] | henkpoley: | So nothing to show |
| [10:31:57] | henkpoley: | It doesn’t crash anymore doing the same thing. Does give an error „Could not read fitst 2048 bytes†(guess I need to scan channels again) |
| [10:38:22] | jya: | do you get the 2048 bytes on all channels ? or just a few ? |
| [10:38:22] | jya: | if the later, it could be that your channels are wrong |
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| [10:42:51] | henkpoley: | just one of them |
| [10:43:06] | henkpoley: | the rest (didn’t try all) work fine |
| [10:43:32] | henkpoley: | btw, channel scanner is nice and fast in 0.27.3, used to take like 10 minutes or more |
| [10:44:45] | henkpoley: | One of these days I’ll have to look into making the commandline scanner work for dvb(c) |
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| [10:47:50] | henkpoley: | After a channelscan the frontend on my backend system now says on that same channel „Error opening jump program buffer†|
| [10:48:28] | henkpoley: | Not an important channel by any means. But dropping out of livetv while channel surfing is kind of meh. |
| [10:56:22] | henkpoley: | jya: thanks for noticing the broken version btw, it now works about as good as it goes :) |
| [10:56:32] | jya: | great |
| [10:58:10] | henkpoley: | I think some of the problem is that the repo settings aren’t reinistialized automatically when you do a distro upgrade |
| [10:58:45] | henkpoley: | s/reinistialized/reinitialized/ |
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| [16:58:16] | Quantum`: | I'd like to build a web page which shows all my videos with metadata, which I can send to a friend. |
| [16:58:42] | Quantum`: | The only way I can see to do this is build MythWeb and then save the web page. |
| [16:58:59] | Quantum`: | But that means setting up Apache and all kinds of other bother. |
| [16:59:08] | Quantum`: | Isn't there a better way? |
| [17:00:05] | Quantum`: | I see status at 6544 and 6547, but not what I'm looking for. |
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| [19:43:09] | stuartm: | could see if the services API offers what you're looking for |
| [19:43:21] | stuartm: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Services_API |
| [19:44:13] | stuartm: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Video_Service |
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| [19:52:03] | stuartm: | Quantum`: ^^ |
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