| Tuesday, July 22nd, 2014, 00:00 UTC | ||
| [00:00:35] | skd5aner: | I've ran it a few months back, what doesn't work for yuo? |
| [00:01:30] | splurben: | #skd5aner well, I'm not a python programmer, but that script reports it can't access the database (my user and password for the database is mythtv:mythtv although I couldn't find a way to pass the argument to the script, it correctly identified the database server as 10.7.0.43. |
| [00:02:10] | skd5aner: | you have to have the config.xml set up correclty I believe |
| [00:02:41] | skd5aner: | in the ~/.mythtv dir of the user runnin the script, which should be the same user that runs myth |
| [00:03:01] | skd5aner: | maybe mysql.txt too, but don't believe so |
| [00:03:42] | skd5aner: | you also have to have the python bindings installed |
| [00:03:57] | splurben: | aha, okay... hmm, 'grep config Find_orphans.ph' returns null |
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| [00:04:31] | splurben: | I have the 2.7 python bindings, I'll post the actual message I'm receiving, just a minute |
| [00:04:42] | skd5aner: | k |
| [00:05:51] | splurben: | here are the messages: http://pastebin.com/rvFhVd8F |
| [00:06:13] | skd5aner: | is mythbackend running at that IP? |
| [00:06:52] | splurben: | yes, hold on: http://pastebin.com/xAkTQd7G |
| [00:07:33] | splurben: | it runs at 10.7.0.43 or thialfi2 or thialfi2.splurben.localdomain — I don't see a place to pass this argument to the script |
| [00:07:49] | skd5aner: | what happens when you try to open a browser and go to http://10.7.0.43:6543 ? |
| [00:08:04] | skd5aner: | do you see a status like page |
| [00:08:50] | skd5aner: | sorry:6544 |
| [00:09:32] | skd5aner: | sorry, I have to run |
| [00:09:34] | splurben: | You're right, back end isn't responding, although mythtvbackend and mythtvfrontend are running successfully, I'll try it as localhost on the server itself |
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| [02:12:03] | splurben: | where do we get mythtv-bindings compatible with 0.27 (0.27.1)? |
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| [10:52:33] | niobos: | What is the best/appropriate way to tell MythTV the following restriction? |
| [10:52:39] | niobos: | I have a DVB-S card that is capable of recording multiple steams (from the same multiplex, obviously). |
| [10:52:43] | niobos: | However, my smartcard is only willing to decrypt a smaller number of channels simultaneously. (I still need to figure out the exact number) |
| [10:52:47] | niobos: | Can I tell myth that it's OK to record e.g. up to 3 streams from the card, but only up to 2 encrypted channels? |
| [10:52:50] | niobos: | Can this be done with input groups? |
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| [11:05:50] | niobos: | I can obviously limit everything to 2 (or whatever the number turns out to be), and I don't think it would matter much in practice... |
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| [11:16:52] | Guest53406: | hello. |
| [11:17:07] | Guest53406: | any usb tv card recomendations ? |
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| [11:33:00] | Merlin83b: | Guest53406: For what? Analogue? DVB-T/S/C? ATSC? |
| [11:40:50] | Guest53406: | HD or digital |
| [11:42:23] | Merlin83b: | Okay, HD is usually (maybe always) delivered digitally. Aerial, cable or satellite? |
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| [11:46:14] | Guest53406: | Merlin83b, cable |
| [11:46:53] | Merlin83b: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/DVB-C_USB_Devices |
| [11:47:00] | Merlin83b: | But do be careful – things are very likely encrpyted. |
| [11:47:09] | Merlin83b: | I have no knowledge of how to deal with that. |
| [12:01:38] | Guest53406: | thinking about the Hauppauge_WinTV-NOVA-TD-Stick . whats the feedback out there? (if any) |
| [12:09:03] | Merlin83b: | Isn't that DVB-T, not DVB-C? |
| [12:10:30] | Guest53406: | yah. my mistake |
| [12:11:40] | Guest53406: | http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Hauppauge_WinTV-HVR-930C-HD this one is listed under DVB-C |
| [12:13:08] | Guest53406: | not a good choice... |
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| [13:20:43] | sphery: | Guest53406: also make sure you're in a DVB-C part of the world, and not a QAM part |
| [13:22:00] | sphery: | and if QAM (especially US), realize that you may not get any unencrypted QAM, so you may need either CableCARD (if your provider marks things as copy freely) or HD-PVR (if not) |
| [13:22:22] | Guest53406: | i see. |
| [13:22:31] | sphery: | so where are you in the world? |
| [13:22:53] | Guest53406: | north america |
| [13:23:45] | sphery: | Canada or US or Mexico? |
| [13:23:49] | Guest53406: | .ca |
| [13:24:07] | Guest53406: | north is .ca – central is US the rest is south :P |
| [13:24:14] | Guest53406: | rogers cable |
| [13:24:30] | Guest53406: | choice is HD or digital |
| [13:24:41] | sphery: | well, Canada is using the same ATSC/QAM that US is, so your cable will be QAM, not DVB-C |
| [13:25:05] | sphery: | (QAM is basically DVB-C with some changes so the US didn't have to worry about NIH (not invented here)) |
| [13:25:12] | sphery: | enough changes that it's not compatible |
| [13:25:29] | sphery: | but I don't think any cable company in Canada supports CableCARD |
| [13:25:42] | sphery: | I don't know at all if they provide ClearQAM (unencrypted QAM) |
| [13:26:04] | Guest53406: | once i get the cable box i wil lprobably get more details no ? |
| [13:26:09] | sphery: | your best bet is to find someone who's using the same provider and who has investigated |
| [13:26:27] | sphery: | often the service menu in the cable box will contain information about it |
| [13:26:45] | sphery: | hard part is figuring how to get there/where to look in it/how to interpret the info |
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| [13:27:15] | Guest53406: | the thing is ... i can get this service for free as a part of another package. so i will take it as it is and then see if i can get it to work with linux |
| [13:27:20] | Guest53406: | i see what you mean |
| [13:27:23] | sphery: | http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/mythtv/users/504022#504022 |
| [13:27:29] | sphery: | "The thread at digitalhome is very old (2006!). Cable has changed since |
| [13:27:31] | sphery: | then. Rogers Cable changed to all-encrypted QAM at the end of June 2007. " |
| [13:27:41] | sphery: | which doesn't bode well |
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| [13:27:57] | Guest53406: | https://www.rogers.com/web/Rogers.portal?_nfp . . . ardware_page both my choices are from the left. PVR is paid ( in my case) |
| [13:28:32] | sphery: | yeah, if you have to use a cable box, you can't do digital capture unless it supports Firewire output |
| [13:28:40] | sphery: | and the provider enables firewire output |
| [13:28:56] | sphery: | generally if you have to use a cable box to decrypt, you'll need an HD-PVR |
| [13:29:03] | Guest53406: | well i am thinking to go with HD |
| [13:29:14] | sphery: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Recording_Digital_Cable has some info |
| [13:29:33] | Guest53406: | to be honest i dont care much about the recording . just to be able to watch. |
| [13:30:14] | sphery: | the HD-PVR is the only option for analog capture of HDTV on GNU/Linux with "standard" APIs (i.e. those supported by MythTV) |
| [13:30:51] | Guest53406: | so... are you saying that is my only functional option? |
| [13:30:55] | sphery: | the only way to get it into the computer for display is the same approach used to get it into the computer for recording |
| [13:31:16] | Guest53406: | i see. |
| [13:31:22] | sphery: | so if you can watch it, you can record it (and MythTV records everything to allow pausing, etc.) |
| [13:31:34] | sphery: | it may well be your only option |
| [13:31:38] | Guest53406: | makes sense. |
| [13:31:39] | sphery: | if Rogers encrypts everything |
| [13:31:54] | Guest53406: | something to find out |
| [13:31:57] | sphery: | and if I'm correct in thinking that no Canadian-providers support CableCARD |
| [13:32:30] | sphery: | and if the cable box doesn't support Firewire output or Rogers doesn't enable it |
| [13:32:36] | sphery: | then, yes, that's your only option |
| [13:32:58] | sphery: | and it will require a separate cable box + HD-PVR for each concurrent recording you want to be able to make |
| [13:33:10] | sphery: | (so to record 3 channels requires 3 cable boxes and 3 HD-PVRs) |
| [13:33:45] | Guest53406: | so for HD (not pvr) at least i will need firewire, if i did not misunderstand |
| [13:34:14] | sphery: | my cable company encrypts everything and doesn't support CableCARD nor firewire output, and even though I have cable TV, I haven't hooked it into MythTV because, IMHO, it wasn't worth it |
| [13:34:30] | Guest53406: | http://communityforums.rogers.com/t5/forums/f . . . read-id/1142 |
| [13:34:40] | sphery: | so I have a cable company DVR for Walking Dead and Falling Skies and Last Ship, but MythTV for everything on the OTA local channels |
| [13:35:12] | sphery: | best bet, though, is to find someone else who has Rogers and MythTV and talk with them |
| [13:35:22] | Guest53406: | yah |
| [13:36:08] | Guest53406: | i will be passing by a store too and will ask them details about the service. |
| [13:36:20] | sphery: | but, yeah, much of what that thread says is the case--if they have encrypted digital content, it's so they can control your use of the service and attempt to force you to do things their way |
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| [15:26:09] | dreamcat4: | hello, i'm running into a mysql db problem here: https://gist.github.com/dreamcat4/cf9c86d23cf18ef20bec |
| [15:26:12] | dreamcat4: | is it because i haven't run mythtv-setup yet? (no x11 on headless server) |
| [15:26:21] | dreamcat4: | these are my steps here: https://gist.github.com/dreamcat4/d78b39930e12a1722246 |
| [15:29:22] | dreamcat4: | i am thinking yes, that this missing table is probably expected to be created during "mythtv-setup" |
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| [15:43:41] | paul-h: | dreamcat4: yes you need to run mythtv-setup or mythbackend to create the initial database |
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| [15:50:17] | bill6502: | dreamcat4: or if you have another host: ssh -Y mythtv@yourBackendHostOrIP mythtv-setup |
| [15:50:42] | dreamcat4: | that's great. thanks guys |
| [15:51:27] | dreamcat4: | and perhaps there is already a ticket raised, to port 'mythtv-setup' into mythweb ? |
| [15:51:45] | dreamcat4: | wouldn't mind keeping track on that for future |
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| [15:54:26] | dreamcat4: | i guess it can go on to the 'mythweb wishlist' – https://code.mythtv.org/trac/wiki/WebFrontendWishlist |
| [15:56:53] | dreamcat4: | ah, there is a seperate ticket for 0.28 – https://code.mythtv.org/trac/ticket/8262 |
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| [16:33:29] | Guest53406: | sphery, will be getting an HD and a digital box tomorrow to test. I was also told that it allows analog signal. I guess i will have to wait and see. |
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| [18:13:43] | sunkan: | Where can I get help with a segfault? Here or #mythtv ? |
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| [19:00:33] | dreamcat4: | so, mythweb requires Adobe Flash ? |
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| [19:02:51] | paul-h: | Don't use it but I'm pretty sure it doesn't require or use flash |
| [19:03:11] | dreamcat4: | thanks paul-h |
| [19:03:32] | dreamcat4: | must be something else the problem then |
| [19:05:44] | kormoc: | mythweb uses flash for the FLV streaming, but that's it |
| [19:06:34] | dreamcat4: | yeah, ok i get it. not the essential part. the problem must be something to do with my webserver config etc. |
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