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| [08:05:40] | cbovy: | jya: now compiling your patch into 0.27.3. thanks for the quick commit! ;-) |
| [08:05:52] | jya: | took me a full day that one |
| [08:06:10] | jya: | what didn’t help was that unencrypted DVD over SG is broken in master |
| [08:06:10] | cbovy: | my kids really appreciate it. :-) |
| [08:06:27] | jya: | I have it queued to be pushed in fixes/0.27 |
| [08:06:36] | cbovy: | ok. I'll test it in a minute. |
| [08:06:47] | jya: | oh, I know it works in 0.27 |
| [08:06:58] | cbovy: | ok! |
| [08:07:26] | jya: | i’m highly confident it doesn’t introduce regression, too. maybe just peak CPU usage when reaching EOF until the buffer is exhausted |
| [08:08:02] | jya: | made me reaslise that there are several design flaws in the way the ringbuffer class works |
| [08:08:27] | jya: | not sure how to fix those without a significant rewrite.. so many locks and waiting condition everywhere |
| [08:09:45] | cbovy: | Was it DVD specific or more generic? playing other files (like mkv) went OK. |
| [08:10:01] | jya: | it’s mostly due to the way DVD works |
| [08:10:23] | jya: | and to be honest, that commit prevent the issue from having an effect, but I don’t believe it fixes the core problem |
| [08:10:35] | jya: | having a 1s wait shouldn’t break playback like that |
| [08:11:51] | jya: | with DVD, it opens a lot of files at once, all the .IFO and VOB. Then it reads the data, which for the IFO is 16kB, then seek to the beginning, read them, seek back dozen of times |
| [08:12:33] | jya: | as the file are small, the ringbuffer reads the entire content and then goes into sleep. Following a seek, it tries to read again, and had to wait up to 1s |
| [08:12:40] | jya: | it’s that wait that caused breakage |
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| [08:13:04] | jya: | how a 1s wait as opposed to 100ms prevent playback to even start is beyond me |
| [08:13:20] | jya: | that points to a problem upstream in libdvdnav |
| [08:13:41] | cbovy: | Ok. comparing the outputs it also looked like myth was not able to get the full DVD index, and breaks after the first part or so. |
| [08:14:02] | jya: | yes, that’s where it gets interrupted due to the too long wait |
| [08:14:02] | cbovy: | stops after the first: DVDRB: Title #1: Length |
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| [08:15:03] | jya: | a simple fix was simply to change generalWait.wait(&rwlock, 1000); into generalWait.wait(&rwlock, 100); line 970 in ringbuffer.cpp |
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| [08:15:26] | jya: | wait something is so fragile for a few ms … that rings alarm bell |
| [08:15:33] | jya: | dinner time, brb |
| [08:15:44] | cbovy: | enjoy! |
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| [08:31:38] | jya: | back |
| [08:32:01] | cbovy: | jya: compiled the backend 0.27.3 with commit, frontend still on 0.27, and it works! |
| [08:32:14] | jya: | of course :) |
| [08:32:31] | cbovy: | thanks! |
| [08:32:39] | jya: | i was surprised the frontend would make a difference |
| [08:32:44] | jya: | but it does for some reason |
| [08:33:35] | cbovy: | let me upgrade the frontends with the new build tonight. |
| [08:35:08] | jya: | if you wait, I’ll push the changes to fixes/0.27 |
| [08:35:19] | jya: | I’m still going to see on what else could be the problem |
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| [08:37:18] | cbovy: | ok. I'll do that until they end up in mythbuntu repository. |
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| [10:36:01] | jya: | cbovy: It’s definitely a timing question.. I added a simple sleep() when the file is read.. and playback fails. |
| [10:36:36] | jya: | so the only reason my patch works is because it makes it slightly faster to respond.. that means it would likely be a problem on another machine that is too slow |
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| [10:44:12] | cbovy: | jya: ok.... |
| [10:45:08] | cbovy: | slow machine, means slow backend or slow frontend? |
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| [10:48:37] | jya: | either |
| [10:48:51] | jya: | be interested to see what it does for you. |
| [10:50:21] | jya: | in 0.27, without the patch. |
| [10:51:06] | jya: | actually with the patch |
| [10:51:49] | jya: | line 1462: add before return count; : usleep(1000 * 1000); |
| [10:52:04] | jya: | so it sleeps just 1s there when it reaches EOF |
| [10:52:30] | jya: | my guess is that it tries to open the file upstream for XX time, and if more it aborts |
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| [10:59:18] | cbovy: | let me summarize: you want to use 0.27 with the modification on line 1462 and test again? |
| [10:59:42] | jya: | yes |
| [10:59:54] | jya: | it fails for me |
| [10:59:59] | jya: | it fails with 0.27.1 too |
| [11:00:30] | jya: | i mean that code is so borderline that any some tweaks or unexpected pause is enough to cause it to fail |
| [11:00:38] | jya: | need to find out where that time out value is now |
| [11:01:25] | cbovy: | ok, I understand. And why is that only with DVDs... |
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| [11:03:38] | jya: | my commit only sped up things by a couple of seconds. that’s what made it work. |
| [11:03:47] | jya: | but the core reason for the failure isn’t fixed |
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| [11:08:50] | cbovy: | and is the problem only in the DVD processing or is it a generic ringbuffer thing and it is only noticed while playing DVD images over SG? |
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| [11:10:48] | jya: | yep.. that is a timer |
| [11:11:01] | jya: | mythplayer.cpp line 931 |
| [11:11:15] | jya: | it tries to peek for 1.5s |
| [11:13:03] | jya: | maximum time is 3s |
| [11:13:11] | jya: | if the video isn’t opened within 3s |
| [11:13:14] | jya: | it will fail |
| [11:13:17] | jya: | 3s isn’t much |
| [11:14:59] | jya: | no wonder a tiny 1s extra wait cause the whole thing to fail |
| [11:15:21] | jya: | so one other fix for the DVD not opening |
| [11:15:33] | jya: | is simply: in ringbuffer.h line 140 |
| [11:15:45] | jya: | replace virtual int OpenFile(uint retries = 4); with virtual int OpenFile(uint retries = 10); |
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| [11:16:16] | jya: | that’s a 6.6s wait |
| [11:16:19] | jya: | still not much |
| [11:17:08] | cbovy: | so opening a DVD takes more cycles then opening a mkv for instance. Can the retries be based on the source of the file/format? |
| [11:17:43] | cbovy: | and is there any difference between ISO file and VIDEO_TS/AUDIO_TS structure? |
| [11:18:06] | jya: | not really |
| [11:18:11] | jya: | it calls the same code |
| [11:18:26] | jya: | this can be easily overriden for the dvd player |
| [11:18:32] | jya: | and only for the dvd player |
| [11:18:50] | jya: | having said that, if playback fail to start, 3 or 6s isn’t much of a difference |
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