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| [00:33:05] | Oleg_: | guys, when trying to compile the latest mythtv from master, I get the error: |
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| [00:33:17] | Oleg_: | videoout_xv.cpp:1445:9: error: use of undeclared identifier 'm_copyFrame'; did you mean 'CopyFrame'? |
| [00:33:19] | Oleg_: | m_copyFrame.Copy(&image_out, buffer); |
| [00:33:20] | Oleg_: | ^~~~~~~~~~~ |
| [00:33:22] | Oleg_: | CopyFrame |
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| [01:27:36] | wagnerrp: | Oleg_: if you have a build fail, check the waterfall to see if everyone else does as well |
| [01:27:51] | wagnerrp: | https://code.mythtv.org/buildbot/waterfall |
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| [01:37:48] | Hydr0p0nX: | nice, I didn't know that was available |
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| [06:39:57] | mishehu: | looks like some peeps I've known in years past are still here |
| [06:42:33] | mishehu: | funny though, I remember xris, kormoc, wagnerrp and a few others, I don't see Beirdo... |
| [06:43:29] | xris: | I'm still here |
| [06:44:13] | xris: | beirdo got a life (married into teenagers), a nice job at amazon (with a horrible commute) and still works on some mythtv stuff for digital nirvana |
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| [06:44:28] | xris: | amazon doesn't let him work on the video parts of mythtv because it's too close to their own services |
| [06:57:39] | mishehu: | xris: last I spoke to Beirdo he was moving to Puerto Rico. is that where he was last known to be or did he move elsewhere? |
| [06:58:02] | mishehu: | ah horrible commute |
| [06:58:04] | xris: | he did, then his wife left him and he moved to seattle |
| [06:58:05] | mishehu: | didn't catch that |
| [06:58:10] | mishehu: | he must be in the pacnw |
| [06:58:46] | xris: | I got him a job at marchex.. though since then he worked for blackberry and then moved to amazon when bb shut down their seattle office |
| [06:58:55] | mishehu: | bah, that's pretty crappy news. how's he married into teenager now? |
| [06:59:53] | mishehu: | funny enough I'll be not too far away from seattle in a week... just a few hours south in portland. |
| [07:02:45] | xris: | yeah, he remarried again last year or so and she came with a couple of teenagers. they all seem pretty happy, aside from his crappy commute from (they moved way out even past the suburbs) |
| [07:03:58] | xris: | makes it hard to meet up with him, even when he was only working a few blocks away from me |
| [07:05:28] | mishehu: | ah so yuo're in the seattle area too then |
| [07:06:00] | mishehu: | though it's probably doubtful, I wonder if he knows a buddy of mine that works at amazon. heh. |
| [07:11:38] | xris: | I've been in the seattle area since 1989. :) |
| [07:11:52] | xris: | kormoc's up here, too |
| [07:12:06] | mishehu: | heh I don't keep tabs on people – hall the time I can barely keep track of myself :-) |
| [07:12:10] | mishehu: | s/hall/half |
| [07:12:11] | xris: | and Captain_Murdoch2, though he's a couple hours north |
| [07:12:22] | mishehu: | isn't canada a couple hours north? |
| [07:12:24] | xris: | yeah, that's about where I am at now. too much work/life/family |
| [07:12:42] | xris: | yup. I think he's about 20min south of the border |
| [07:12:55] | mishehu: | yeah and i'm in centex but I work in LA, so I'm traveling a lot. |
| [07:13:35] | mishehu: | feels like it's been 3–4 years since I really hung out here on this channel. |
| [07:13:53] | mishehu: | I just decide this week I was tired of runnign mythbuntu and watnt o go back to rollin' mah own |
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| [07:24:47] | helge: | morgen zusammen |
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| [07:41:22] | helge: | kann mir wer helfen ? backend – http://pastebin.com/BUUg22AC – frontend http://pastebin.com/WURWaaMH |
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| [08:02:29] | justinh_: | helge: 1. your myth backend is set to start on a channel which does not exist. 2. mythbackend cannot access the tuner – maybe because something else is using it – or the user mythbackend runs as does not have privileges to use the card |
| [08:02:51] | justinh_ is now known as justinh | |
| [08:10:43] | justinh: | helge: I am not helping you in a private chat. do this in the open. And FYI my German goes as far as counting to 10 |
| [08:13:50] | helge: | justinh: how do i find out witch program uses the tuner and how do i change start channel cant find option in mythtv-setup |
| [08:14:32] | mishehu: | if you know the device in /dev for it, you can use `fuser /dev/devicename` |
| [08:15:16] | mishehu: | the other thing to do is to ls -l /dev/devicename so that you can make sure the user running mythbackend has permissions to rw the device |
| [08:20:00] | helge: | Jul 1 03:02:19 helge-laptop kernel: [ 1131.295886] DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (DiBcom 7000PC)... |
| [08:20:32] | helge: | fuser /dev/DiBcom 7000PC doesent exist |
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| [08:28:22] | mishehu: | yeah, /dev/DiBcom 7000PC is not likely the name of the actual device |
| [08:29:15] | mishehu: | maybe look under /dev/v4l/by-id |
| [08:29:35] | mishehu: | since it's a dvb type device |
| [08:32:32] | helge: | there is only a camera |
| [08:37:43] | helge: | ? dir /dev/dvb/by-id can not access: no such file or dir but is in list so what is it ? deadlink? |
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| [08:50:53] | mishehu: | this I can't help you with |
| [08:51:06] | mishehu: | you'll have to figure out what device is the one for your capture card |
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| [08:51:29] | mishehu: | and with that I must sleep |
| [08:52:49] | helge: | good night |
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| [15:01:18] | tpowa: | wagnerrp, https://github.com/MythTV/mythweb/commit/ce23 . . . 6e0576d8c107 why you disabled the scan videos? |
| [15:22:02] | kormoc: | tpowa, likely things changed, it never got updated, so it just was causing problems |
| [15:24:26] | tpowa: | kormoc, well it's a bit annoying to go to mythfrontend to trigger a collection update |
| [15:25:23] | sphery: | well, since you likely only buy DVDs occasionally, and rip them even less frequently, it shouldn't be that much of a problem |
| [15:26:03] | sphery: | or if you're moving recordings to Video Library for longer-term storage, you probably only do that occasionally in a batch, so easy enough to scan once when done |
| [15:27:13] | sphery: | especially since getting to Video Library and starting a scan in mythfrontend UI takes negligible time compared to the time required to rip a DVD or move recordings |
| [15:27:40] | tpowa: | sphery, yes you are right, if vlc wouldn't have broken dlna usage on all platforms i wouldn't need this at all |
| [15:29:03] | sphery: | hehe, DLNA--at least they took the "Universal" out of the name (since Universal Plug and Play was neither Universal, nor Plug and Play) |
| [15:29:36] | sphery: | and neither is DLNA |
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| [15:30:25] | sphery: | anyway--not that this helps much--but that's exactly why I use a real mythfrontend box connected to my "smart" TVs rather than try to use their smarts |
| [15:31:26] | sphery: | anyway, there is work being done to make the scanning easier (and it will make it available from mythweb), but it takes time |
| [15:35:50] | tpowa: | it's just a nice feature to grab videos to usb sticks or play them on not dlna compatible systems |
| [15:36:37] | tpowa: | anyway mythtv and mythweb is great software |
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| [17:05:45] | qu: | There's a YouTube video I'd like to watch. Is this possible through Myth? |
| [17:26:00] | qu: | Hello? |
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| [17:43:32] | ctmjr: | qu: Am pretty sure you can watch youtube with mythnetvision |
| [17:43:57] | ctmjr: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNetvision |
| [17:46:09] | qu: | ctmjr: I'll try it, thanks. |
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| [18:12:19] | dekarl: | tpowa: you could wrap "mythutil --scanvideos" into something clickable |
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| [18:15:38] | l0zer: | any one have awhile to help me setup my mythbuntu? i got it installed but im all confused now |
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| [18:30:41] | ctmjr: | l0zer: http://goo.gl/nTA43J see if this helps |
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| [18:39:24] | l0zer: | hmm i think i may reformat and follow that guide lol |
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| [18:44:20] | tpowa: | dekarl, thx |
| [18:44:25] | l0zer: | ill be back after i try it |
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| [18:48:24] | justinh: | FWIW my cheap & nasty Hitachi 'smart' TV 'just works' with my Myth backend :-) |
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| [18:48:50] | justinh: | it's limited to lists of only 1000 items though. And that sucks |
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| [19:42:14] | l0zer: | ok i got it installed and setup and its working now... is there a guide how to stream remotly with vlc? |
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| [19:44:21] | dekarl: | l0zer: stream recordings or livetv to vlc? |
| [19:44:44] | dekarl: | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/UPnP |
| [19:50:46] | Jay2k1: | as for live tv, i think currently there's no way of streaming |
| [19:52:11] | Jay2k1: | except for recording the show and using asx stream (which doesn't work with vlc, haven't tried others yet) |
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| [19:55:22] | justinh: | you can certainly stream livetv if you have an application which uses the MythTV API |
| [19:55:45] | Jay2k1: | and is inside your lan |
| [19:55:59] | justinh: | but if you just want to watch TV on some device, just use VLC to do the streaming |
| [19:56:20] | Jay2k1: | how? |
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| [19:56:48] | justinh: | I dunno, but I've read a bit about people doing it |
| [19:56:48] | Jay2k1: | i wanted to watch a soccer game at work and was thinking about how to stream it from my mythbox at home |
| [19:57:21] | justinh: | basically point VLC at your tuner & select some stuff – and it'll output the whole transponder over IP |
| [19:57:36] | Jay2k1: | it works using mythfrontend on my macbook and vpn, but it's too slow when watching a HD channel – for SD it works |
| [19:58:01] | Jay2k1: | so i thought about avoiding VPN and opening the myth port in the nat router |
| [19:58:01] | justinh: | but er.. isn't work for um.. working? ;-) |
| [19:58:15] | justinh: | Jay2k1: oh you really don't wanna do that |
| [19:58:30] | Steve-Goodey: | Novel idea. |
| [19:58:32] | Jay2k1: | well, firewalled of course |
| [19:58:43] | Jay2k1: | just open to my work ip |
| [19:59:08] | Jay2k1: | and yes, work is for working – until 1800, at which point the game started |
| [19:59:33] | justinh: | we had TVs fitted at work for watching the world cup of soccer, but then somebody realised the vast majority of games were outside of working hours |
| [19:59:44] | Jay2k1: | also there's an 80 inch flat tv in the conference room so there's worse places to watch |
| [19:59:51] | justinh: | and most of us couldn't give a toss about overpaid idiots kicking each other |
| [20:00:00] | Jay2k1: | but SD on 80" looks too crappy |
| [20:00:05] | Jay2k1: | and only dvb-t available |
| [20:00:09] | Steve-Goodey: | Or biting each other. |
| [20:00:11] | Jay2k1: | hence my idea to stream HD from home |
| [20:00:15] | justinh: | Steve-Goodey: LOL |
| [20:00:18] | Jay2k1: | haha |
| [20:00:39] | justinh: | Jay2k1: there are probably way easier ways to get hold of live streams of games |
| [20:00:44] | Jay2k1: | but the problem with opening the port is (as far as i've understood) that you need to set the used IP address in mythbackend |
| [20:00:53] | justinh: | though to get around FIFA being assholes you may have to look under rocks |
| [20:01:05] | Jay2k1: | and my external IP is dynamic and changes every 24 hours |
| [20:01:17] | justinh: | did I just say assholes? I meant only interested in money |
| [20:01:25] | Jay2k1: | so i don't think it could work |
| [20:01:41] | Jay2k1: | also, when using frontends inside my lan, i'd have to point them to the external IP i guess. |
| [20:01:59] | justinh: | Jay2k1: VLC could possibly transcode in real time, but it'd tie up a tuner |
| [20:02:11] | Jay2k1: | why transcode |
| [20:02:24] | justinh: | there's likely a 'world cup live' plugin for *COUGH* media center |
| [20:02:27] | Jay2k1: | and regarding the tuner... it'd be busy streaming either way |
| [20:02:51] | justinh: | Jay2k1: I'm not sure the VPN is adding much bandwidth overhead |
| [20:02:53] | Jay2k1: | i have 20mbit/s up, that should be sufficient for HD |
| [20:03:36] | justinh: | we have about 1Mbits down at work. And it's mostly down |
| [20:03:36] | Jay2k1: | i don't know whether it's the overhead or the router (a fritz.box) which can't encrypt that amount of data in a timely manner |
| [20:03:41] | Jay2k1: | hah |
| [20:03:47] | Jay2k1: | at work we have 1gbit/s up and down |
| [20:03:54] | Jay2k1: | and we're 11 people. |
| [20:04:12] | justinh: | 11 spoiled people who could be working instead |
| [20:04:25] | Jay2k1: | after six? nah |
| [20:05:00] | justinh: | it's actually usually better for me to login to my home system, start a download, then pick up the files & take them to work on a USB stick |
| [20:05:06] | Jay2k1: | but anyway, i don't think bandwidth is an issue in this case |
| [20:05:16] | Jay2k1: | justinh: LIVE TV :P |
| [20:05:36] | ** justinh bets there are loads of questionably 'free' streams of the world cup of soccer out there hiding under rocks ** | |
| [20:05:37] | Jay2k1: | or well. maybe live – 5s |
| [20:05:55] | Jay2k1: | yeah there's even legal ones from the stations that broadcast it on TV too |
| [20:05:58] | Jay2k1: | but... no HD. |
| [20:06:05] | Jay2k1: | i could as well watch dvb-t then. |
| [20:06:19] | Jay2k1: | as said, on 80" it's a bunch of moving pixels. |
| [20:06:37] | justinh: | not sure it'd be that much better on a set that big, in HD |
| [20:06:51] | Jay2k1: | oh it looked much better. |
| [20:07:01] | Jay2k1: | the vpn try worked except for stuttering every second |
| [20:07:31] | ** justinh hears '24' go "ding!" ** | |
| [20:07:47] | l0zer: | does the ps3 natively work with mythbuntu or do i have to install linux on it? |
| [20:08:06] | tgm4883__: | AFAIK you can't install linux on a PS3 anymore |
| [20:09:00] | justinh: | AFAIK the PS3 never had enough grunt on Linux to be able to play video |
| [20:09:54] | justinh: | linux on the PS3 was kinda like.. "wooo, open a terminal! Browse the interwebs!", from what I heard about it |
| [20:10:15] | l0zer: | is there any way to stream to the ps3 then? |
| [20:10:55] | justinh: | recordings & videos yes. Live TV, no |
| [20:11:11] | tgm4883__: | justinh: IIRC, there was also the "hey the USAF clustered a bunch of these together for computing power" |
| [20:11:22] | justinh: | l0zer: read the wiki page dekarl posted at you earlier |
| [20:12:08] | justinh: | tgm4883__: heh, but then I guess they didn't need buttery smooth video playback |
| [20:12:16] | tgm4883__: | true |
| [20:12:29] | justinh: | bwahahahaha http://www.playstation.com/ps3-openplatform/ |
| [20:16:40] | justinh: | apparently there was an 'otherOS++' project which brought linux back after Sony killed it – at gitbrew.org .. but it's down. So much for all that |
| [20:22:19] | poolejj: | I have a mythbuntu box with ubuntu 14.04 and myth 0.27. On reboot the screen comes up black. I have to CTRL-ALT-F1 and then CTRL-ALT-F7 to get a display. Anyone have an idea. |
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| [20:49:30] | l0zer: | k now ive got the upnp server working,now my ps3 is saying videos not there has been removed..... i can watch it on the front end on the machine but im stuck on this bit now lol |
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