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| [00:46:33] | Vaska: | Hello – what's the specific name of the technology that allower for power control of devices via HDMI connections? |
| [00:47:05] | wagnerrp: | power control... not specifically but you're probably looking for CEC |
| [00:47:37] | wagnerrp: | CEC is a generic low speed messaging bus, hardwired between all connected HDMI devices |
| [00:47:59] | wagnerrp: | being able to send messages to a device to power off is just one capability |
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| [00:49:20] | Vaska: | wagnerrp: I think you're right, CEC. When I power off my HDMI A/V receiver, xorg or the nvidia driver flakes out and won't come back so I have to restart X. |
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| [00:51:08] | wagnerrp: | that's not CEC, that's EDID |
| [00:51:53] | wagnerrp: | all DVI and HDMI devices are supposed to have line-powered circuitry that will be able to communicate to the device on the other side even if they aren't plugged in |
| [00:52:25] | wagnerrp: | this is so that other devices can poll the display capabilities of the monitor/TV, without requiring it be powered up |
| [00:52:25] | Vaska: | wagnerrp: thanks, is EDID also responsible for detecting the monitor/tv's capabilities too? |
| [00:52:46] | wagnerrp: | many TVs are cheap in this regard, and the plugs and EDID circuitry just go dead when you power off |
| [00:53:05] | wagnerrp: | and that confuses computers which expect all display devices will be well behaved like monitors |
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| [00:53:37] | wagnerrp: | with the nvidia drivers, you can capture that EDID block, and then force feed it back to the driver during X init |
| [00:53:41] | wagnerrp: | bypassing this issue |
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| [09:08:23] | acle: | E CoreContext mythdbcon.cpp:217 (OpenDatabase) Driver error was [1/2002]:#012QMYSQL: Unable to connect#012Database error was:#012Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| [09:08:23] | acle: | Isn't the connection supposed to be through a tcp socket? |
| [09:09:07] | acle: | Is this why none of the scheduled recordings, which seem to be tying up the tuners are generating output files? |
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| [09:54:05] | lapion: | hello, anyone else having problems with live tv playback ? |
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| [09:55:12] | lapion: | a couple of updates ago all the playback did was simply pause mid playback, and all I needed to do was unpause the playback and it would continue |
| [09:55:55] | lapion: | now the playback freezes for a second or so, and then all I get to see is a black screen. |
| [09:56:28] | lapion: | until I press escape and return to the menu |
| [10:00:45] | lapion: | currently 27.1 is unstable for live tv playback, be-it dvb or analog tv playback |
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| [10:51:06] | acle: | lapion, I am having config issues that may be colouring things but, livetv playback is pretty ropey quality for me and I hit an issue where the buffer would advance to a certain point but repeatedly bog down at the same time offset. skipping past was impossible |
| [10:51:53] | acle: | as was fast forward. Eventually I tried esc to leave the display and gave up on the 20Mins of video. |
| [10:53:32] | acle: | This was a recent 0.27 install. OTOH previous experience with 0.25 was no better. and there even playing partially recorded streams lead to really bad times. So I can't say I use live tv much. |
| [11:06:08] | lapion: | acle used to be palatable, just pausing analog tv on schedule program boundaries, no problems whatsoever with digital dvb. |
| [11:15:07] | stuartm: | lapion: we're investingating that issue, suspect it was caused by this commit – http://code.mythtv.org/cgit/mythtv/commit/?id . . . a91091f5e9a7 |
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| [11:15:37] | stuartm: | acle: get 0.27.1, should be more stable with livetv |
| [11:15:45] | stuartm: | however it does seem you've got a DB issue |
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| [11:17:09] | lapion: | thanks stuart.. |
| [11:18:25] | lapion: | stuartm, I have noticed that if I rewind the stream to the beginning before it aborts It cannot be fastforwarded for more than one second at atime |
| [11:19:31] | lapion: | then I inadvertantly used the y button to change channels and now I am having what seems to be a perfect streaming playback |
| [11:20:58] | lapion: | stuartm, the y keystroke even changes channels smoother than any other way of changing channels |
| [11:21:50] | lapion: | stuartm, smoother than way back in version 0.24.0 |
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| [11:40:35] | acle: | stuartm, my installation that hit the issue mentioned is a mythbuntu VM with 0.27 repositories that last updated about 48 hours ago. Things are at 6s and 7s because I'm trying to get a Ceton ETH6 tuner configured and it is giving separate problems, I am hoping live TV will improve but it's not used that much anyway. Thanks for the pointer. |
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| [11:44:43] | acle: | Anyone care to venture what Ceton support thinks of MythTV wrt reliability with their h/w? |
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| [11:51:16] | lapion: | acle, you there ? |
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| [11:52:38] | lapion: | acle try pressing y during live playback once or more, I am getting a quite stable stream since |
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| [12:09:16] | acle: | I saw the y reference. I'll give it a crack at the next opportunity and try and find out what it's bound to beforehand. |
| [12:09:53] | acle: | lapion thanks for the pointer. I'll let you know. |
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| [12:45:28] | stuartm: | Y just changes to the last tuned channel |
| [12:48:59] | stuartm: | superm1: tgm4883: if it's possible to update the -fixes packages early we'd appreciate that, just fixed a nasty bug that we'd prefer few users to experience |
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| [13:07:40] | stuartm: | lapion: fix for the instability has gone in, if you're using packages you'll need to wait for them to be updated |
| [13:07:50] | stuartm: | hopefully sooner rather than later |
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| [13:50:06] | superm1: | stuartm: when did this fix go in? and when was the problem introduced? is it a problem that we were trying to get the 0.27.1 point release in 14.04.1? |
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| [15:29:52] | stuartm: | broken two days ago, fixed a few hours ago |
| [15:30:00] | stuartm: | wasn't in 0.27.1 |
| [15:30:07] | stuartm: | superm1: ^^ |
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| [17:30:06] | SmallwoodDR82: | did recent backend updates break livetv with XBMC as a frontend for anyone else? |
| [17:30:25] | wagnerrp: | 0.27 or master? |
| [17:33:56] | SmallwoodDR82: | MythTV Version : V0.27.1-11-ga1b5067 |
| [17:35:36] | SmallwoodDR82: | here are logs from xbmc and mythtv backend |
| [17:35:38] | SmallwoodDR82: | http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=197006 |
| [17:36:09] | wagnerrp: | if livetv works fine in the frontend, then you really need to talk to the xbmc developers |
| [17:36:23] | wagnerrp: | we don't maintain that project |
| [17:36:47] | wagnerrp: | if livetv is similarly broken in the frontend, check trac to see if someone has filed a ticket, and if not, file your own |
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| [17:54:06] | SmallwoodDR82: | i don't use mythtv frontend, alright I'll wait for the xbmc staff to reply, thanks |
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| [17:55:18] | wagnerrp: | what i'm saying is run the frontend, and see if it suffers the same issue you're seeing on xbmc |
| [17:55:29] | wagnerrp: | if you see the same issue, it's our issue. if you don't, it's xbmc's issue |
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| [18:00:34] | superm1: | SmallwoodDR82: that might have been what was just discussed above, there was a broken patch applied to 0.27-fixes that broke live tv for a bunch of people |
| [18:00:44] | superm1: | it may or may not affect xbmc as a frontend |
| [18:00:55] | wagnerrp: | superm1: wasn't that only for master? |
| [18:01:03] | superm1: | wagnerrp: no it was backported to fixes |
| [18:01:12] | superm1: | that's why stuartm wanted to get us to redo the build asap |
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| [18:01:25] | superm1: | https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/commit/427a7 . . . 4a0c64b98a66 |
| [18:01:44] | superm1: | SmallwoodDR82: updated packages were just respun on the PPA and published 20 minutes ago. update to those |
| [18:01:49] | superm1: | see if it goes away |
| [18:05:59] | SmallwoodDR82: | will do, thank you! |
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| [18:21:35] | SmallwoodDR82: | well, now backend is having issues |
| [18:21:46] | SmallwoodDR82: | working on pulling log right now |
| [18:23:09] | SmallwoodDR82: | superm1: http://pastebin.com/qskcg9H3 |
| [18:23:30] | SmallwoodDR82: | all i did was goto update manager and check for updates. |
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| [18:52:31] | superm1: | i wonder if those are files from before that it's struggling with |
| [18:52:41] | superm1: | stuartm: with that patch in place does it actually clean up the mess from earlier? |
| [19:00:11] | stuartm: | shouldn't have been anything to clean up |
| [19:00:43] | stuartm: | "MySQL time zone support is missing. Please install it and try again. See 'mysql_tzinfo_to_sql' for assistance." |
| [19:01:10] | stuartm: | superm1: database issue? |
| [19:06:03] | SmallwoodDR82: | not sure where to go from here. |
| [19:06:24] | SmallwoodDR82: | I tried the mysql tzinfo page and it's not liking the commands on the wiki page |
| [19:06:53] | SmallwoodDR82: | i'll be honest I'm not great with mysql commands |
| [19:07:45] | SmallwoodDR82: | but it does show NULL after this command SELECT CONVERT_TZ(NOW(), 'SYSTEM', 'Etc/UTC'); |
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| [19:11:20] | superm1: | we automatically set up the timezone stuff in the mythtv-database package |
| [19:11:41] | superm1: | try dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database |
| [19:11:45] | superm1: | and that should try to fill it again |
| [19:13:14] | SmallwoodDR82: | exit |
| [19:13:16] | SmallwoodDR82: | oops |
| [19:13:32] | SmallwoodDR82: | ok ran the dpkg |
| [19:14:34] | SmallwoodDR82: | ok the time is in there. showing 19:14:11 |
| [19:14:44] | SmallwoodDR82: | assuming that's UTC ? |
| [19:17:01] | SmallwoodDR82: | alright live tv is playing right now. |
| [19:17:11] | SmallwoodDR82: | let's see if same issue is still there |
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| [19:36:05] | SmallwoodDR82: | superm1 and stuartm: that fixed it!! thanks guys |
| [19:38:44] | superm1: | Cool |
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| [21:01:49] | lapion: | stuartm, what built-revision ? |
| [21:03:34] | lapion: | stuartm, I mean what fix-revision ? |
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| [22:10:59] | Oleg_: | what the hell... I recompiled mythtv and now can't enable closed captioning |
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| [22:22:55] | Oleg_: | guys? |
| [22:23:01] | Oleg_: | can someone help me please? |
| [22:23:13] | Oleg_: | I upgraded to the latest version from master |
| [22:23:37] | Oleg_: | and now closed captioning never appears on the screen |
| [22:26:59] | Oleg_: | wagnerrp: u there? |
| [22:34:08] | Oleg_: | stuartm: can you help me please? |
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| [22:42:39] | stuartm: | Oleg_: it's a known issue following the latest ffmpeg resync, two of the devs are looking into it |
| [22:45:13] | Oleg_: | ok |
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| [23:19:12] | Oleg_: | stuartm: and how can I downgrade to the version that doesn't have the latest ffmpeg resync? |
| [23:24:33] | wagnerrp: | uninstall your current version, install the old version, drop your database, recover your database from the backup made prior to the upgrade |
| [23:25:47] | Oleg_: | what about the 0.27-fixes branch? is CC broken in that branch too? |
| [23:26:18] | wagnerrp: | we don't do ffmpeg syncs on fixes branches |
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